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Posted on Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 4:32 p.m.

What do you think of Appalachian State's return in 2014 to face the Michigan football team?

By AnnArbor.com Staff

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Appalachian State's 34-32 victory against Michigan in 2007 is one of the biggest upset losses in Wolverines' history.

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The last time the Appalachian State football team visited Ann Arbor, the Mountaineers ended talk around Michigan of a national title run with a stunning 34-32 victory.

The next time Appalachian State will visit Ann Arbor is Aug. 30, 2014.

What do you think of the rematch?

Comments

leaguebus

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 5:21 p.m.

They should schedule a Michigan team, they can all use the money thanks to our new governor.

Tim Wild

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 3:20 p.m.

At least this matchup adds a little interest to the non-conference 'pushover' portion of the schedule. I'd like to even things up vs BYU as well.

truebluefan

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 2:57 p.m.

Will it matter to anyone (rankings guys and computers included) that Michigan beat Appy State? No, it will only matter if we lose...again. Oh, but that could NEVER happen. Right? Right?

truebluefan

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 2:54 p.m.

This is a marketing ploy by David Brandon and nothing more. You think he's out to "prove a point" that Michigan is WAY better than App State, despite the historic upset? Ehhhh...WRONG. He knows the media buzz this game will create and he is licking his chops. It's unfortunate that we have an AD who puts profit margin ahead of what's best for the football program and its dedicated fans.

umgoblue47

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 2:47 p.m.

redceder1. . . by the way, when was the last time msu beat osu? there will never be a rivalry there! GO BLUE!!

Gary Rizzo

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 1:49 p.m.

Think about this; by then (2014) the awesome recruting class 2012 will be upper classmen, Shane Morris would be in his second year at QB. If all goes according to plan, Hoke will have a smothering defense similar to the Championship 1997-98 team. Don't think for a minute that Dave Brandon does not know this. Bottom Line: DB want a revenge game. I predict U of M will score all 66 points that was in the 2007 game plus make the extra field goal for a 69-0 whipping. I would be shocked if App State would have 100 yards of total offense in that '14 game. I would rather see us play Grand Valley of Wayne State so the big pay off stay in the state of Michigan. I still vote no on App State.

golfer

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 1:20 p.m.

all i can say is they better not lose. once was enough. twice is a kick in the face. should give mich to get used to the new system by then.

Tru2Blu76

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 3:45 a.m.

I think that, once again, some people are imagining they know how to judge Dave Brandon. Those people are being proved wrong every time we see a report of how Brady Hoke is doing and every time Hoke himself makes a statement. Brandon hired the RIGHT GUY to replace that other guy. By the time Appy State shows up, the Wolverines will be 100% improved from that team that played under Carr. It's an obvious strategy to get that bad taste from 2007 out of everyone's mouth forever. This is Michigan. In two years, that'll become: This is THE Michigan you haven't met yet, Appy State. Don't get me wrong, I liked Lloyd Carr, but he did a disservice to his team and to Michigan as a whole by not stepping up to the fact that he was burned out and not announcing his retirement sooner than he did.

Lorain Steelmen

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 2:13 p.m.

Carr was 'at the end of his rope' around 2002. He stayed on 5 years too long. Brandon has made a big mistake scheduleing Appy State again. Davie...let's move on shall we?

heartbreakM

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 12:06 p.m.

I agree with you about Carr. It came out that he decided that summer that he was at the end of his rope, but he held on for one more year. Quite clearly, he lost his edge and then by announcing at a time when we could not even hire a good coach (pre bowl season), we got stuck with WCIMFH. But I don't think Michigan should ever schedule a non division I football school (or to use up to date terms, FBS teams). You don't get better as a team unless you face the best. Did Michael Phelps get into Olympic shape by swimming against Pioneer High School? Same would hold true for the football team.

lumberg48108

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 3:43 a.m.

Once something is written its rarely challenged but I will claim this was not the the biggest upset as it was claimed at the time. App State was a very GOOD team and an excellent program. People get caught up in D-1 versus D-I AA and think it was a big upset because of that status. But App. State could then and now compete and likely win games against a majority of D-1 programs. The difference between top D-1AA programs and conferences like the MAC are barely visible... would a loss to a top MAC school rate so high? Dont get caught up in classifications - rate the program itself!!Read on ... It was an upset - but it was not as historic as it has been written simply because U-M lost to a very good team. The following year, U-M (under RR) lost to Toledo at home! Toledo won TWO GAMES the entire season (the other against EMU, which was terrible that year) and the coach was even fired. If memory serves Toledo did not score an offensive TD that game and won! That game, the loss to Toledo, was a bigger upset (if you understand football) than the App State game because U-M lost to a terrible team at home! But none of this logic will apply to bloggers and sports writers who will harp on the same ole story cause its easier than applying a little logic and think beyond the headlines!

UofMbeWorser

Sat, Aug 27, 2011 : 8:56 a.m.

Eeeh Wrong, Sorry but you only analyze half of the Equation. Michigan in 07 was on the preseason short list for National championship hopes. It was a veteran team led by one of the best running backs quarter backs and linemen in school history. Henny and long were thought to consider entering the draft, but stayed for chance at the championship. Michigan in 08 had no QB, no RB, no line and no D. They were lead out on the field by some no name Hill Jack and the boos had already begun before kickoff. ADDITIONALLY, the reason the App state game is considered the biggest upset, is that the App state game happened a year before the Toledo game, so by the time the Toledo game ever happened it was already given its place in history. ADDITIONALLY 2, the fall in 07 from the #5 spot to out of the top 25 was unprecedented. in 08 they came in unranked (I think)

lumberg48108

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 4:29 p.m.

@truebluefan I guess you did not get the jist of my post -- hyperbole and laziness make this loss a bigger loss than in actually was ... the Toledo loss was a bigger upset and more damaging loss - in context its irrelevant who the coach was -

truebluefan

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 2:49 p.m.

I don't get your point lumberg. So App State wasn't a "historic" upset...but Toledo was? Either way, Michigan has a historic upset loss in their history. Oh, wait a minute. Now I understand. You are trying to make the point that Rich Rod's "historic" upset loss was way worse than Lloyd Carr's "historic" upset loss. Here we go again...

Mick

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 6:01 a.m.

I would vote for your comments a hundred times if I could, good job by you mate!

snoopdog

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 3:42 a.m.

"poll: What do you think of Appalachian State's return in 2014 to face the Michigan football team?" I am looking forward to them once again kicking Michigan's butt ! Go Green Go White

Blu-dogg97

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 5:04 p.m.

or maybe CMU coming into your house in EL,and giving your sparty a beatdown!! App st. would have run over cmu and sparty..

Hailmary

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 1:10 a.m.

I don't think to much about that loss to Appy. State t hese days. If we get an opportunity to play them again I would say, that would be nice, no big deal. Now on the other hand and I'm talking about my Michigan Wolverine die hard rapid fan side if we do play Appy. State again I will show up at that game with Nukes, my shotgun and my attack dog but like I said , "No Big Deal".

Hebner

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 1:06 a.m.

I would love to play them. That was a great team we lost to, but everyone seems to forget that.

lumberg48108

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 3:44 a.m.

Yes they were a great team -- read my comments below! Anaylsis is rare these days ...

Terry Star21

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 1 a.m.

It's obvious what the matchup does - it gives the slappies; little brother sparties, little sister buckeyes and such, fodder to ease the pain of their pitiful programs. That's what these losers do, hide under a rock, wait for a Michigan headline - and try to prove to the world how big an idiot they can be. Yes, there very successful indeed ! MgoBlueForTiM.......any foe entering the Big House, leaves with a loss - naturally.

OldBittyBates

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 12:48 a.m.

I say, play both Toledo and App. State, beat their brains in, and then never play either team again. Michigan needs to prove they are better than the two losses we shall always be ashamed of.

Mick

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 12:47 a.m.

That was an old scoreboard and with a newer scoreboard there will be a proper score in this game. I'm glad DB did this, this is the best way to get rid of that stench from 2007. By 2014, Hoke will have M in National Contender form. The QB in that game will be either a 6th year of Gardner or a RS Jr Bellomy or a Sophomore Morris, we'll be loaded. let's do this! I wish some people would stop whining already.

redceder1

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 12:35 a.m.

Very good move by Brandon. Maybe a home and home? I see this as a new long standing rivalry. Can't beat MSU or OSU.

truebluefan

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 12:18 a.m.

It was stupid to schedule App State the first time. Now it's ridiculously stupid to schedule them AGAIN! What is there to gain? Why can't we schedule a decent to good FBS team?! Oh, because we're Michigan and we want to play every non-conference game at home? Give me a break, Brandon.

semperveritas

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 12:17 a.m.

soooo----to improve our BRAND we resurrect the greatest embarrassment our program has suffered-----we give espn and every other media outlet reasons to rehash the app state debacle. and this enhances our BRAND how ? this isn't a pizza store.

mohomed

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 11:59 p.m.

How could you not want a rematch based on revenge and show that game was a fluke? The difference in that game was that Chad Henne was fat and slow and their QB was skinny and fast. Real men have the eye of the Tiger and want a rematch when embarrassed like they were, I forgot Ann Arbor is lacking in real men lately. Just a bunch of weak UM fans not wanting to have their feeling hurt again. Man Up!

Terry Star21

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 1:03 a.m.

Could be worse, look at columbus - eek !

johnnyonenote

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 11:58 p.m.

I'm an old geezer ('54 UM Grad), witnessed the App State game, and thought it was an exciting ballgame, in spite of the outcome. The play of the season, and it counted for exactly nothing, was that last play when the left-footed UM kicker had his kick blocked, but he still had the drive to track down the guy who blocked the kick...back on about the 5-yard line! That guy never played another down for the Maize & Blue, but he is my hero of all time. So I'm looking forward to 2014. My only grandson enrolls as a frosh at App. State this week, and will be a senior in '14. signed...johnnieonenote

Chilltime

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 11:46 p.m.

Just a reminder of how much Long, Henne, Hart and company underachieved.

DonAZ

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 11:39 p.m.

Appalachian State is a good team ... they were when they beat Michigan and they are still pretty good. I have no major heartburn over this. Bring 'em on ... beat 'em and move on.

The OSU

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 10:11 p.m.

I love the photo!

Big Daddy

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 10:09 p.m.

Kind of sad you have to buy some wins against App State, Western, Eastern, Toledo, Ball state to get enough wins to make it through the BIg Ten season with hopes to get to a bowl.... if this is MICHIGAN then play someone that matters and stop with the 4-freebies we buy every year... EARN IT!

truebluefan

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 12:22 a.m.

Well stated, Big Daddy! For as much as I hate USC, I loved Pete Carrol's quote about his USC team willing to play "anyone, anywhere". THAT is the attitude I think we all want from our athletic department and football program!

UofMbeWorser

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 12:07 a.m.

They lost to Toledo the the last time they played didnt they?

Macabre Sunset

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 11:31 p.m.

You guys play Youngstown State more often than not. What's the difference there, other than Appalachian State is usually one of the top teams in I-AA? Michigan generally plays one of the tougher Big Ten schedules. But the Big Ten could improve in this area as a whole. Time to move to nine conference games and stop playing I-AA teams, period.

B1

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 10:49 p.m.

Azwolverine...THIS IS MICHIGAN, the leaders and the best. I want to get my money's worth for those tickets.

azwolverine

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 10:35 p.m.

How is ND a freebie? UM plays them every year. How is Alabama (in addition to ND) a 'freebie' next season? Sure, UM plays EMU, WMU, Ball St, etc, but only two of them every season, with the other two games being ND and someone else (SDSU, Utah, Alabama, etc). The fact that UM even plays ND every year gives them one more tough non-conference game than most big-time teams play these day.

stinger

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:59 p.m.

pound them into oblivion and then never play them again.

bigblue

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:59 p.m.

i love how you guys can't blame anything on RR with this one.

razzberry

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:44 p.m.

Who cares!! It was a one time fluke. When they play again UM will win by 40. Had they played again at the end of that season Michigan would have won by 40. Everyone likes to point to that first game but lets not forget how that season ended. WE beat pretty much the same Florida team that won the NC the next year.

Terrin Bell

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 5:07 p.m.

It wasn't a fluke. Any decent team can beat a great team under the right set of circumstances.

Craig Lounsbury

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 10:38 p.m.

I hope it was a "fluke" but until we prove it on the field....an App State fan can rightfully say "scoreboard"

Dude

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 10:10 p.m.

"Had we played again at the end of that season"... It doesn't really matter how you try to spin the rest of the season, it was a terrible, terrible, terrible loss. And we could beat them by 100 in 2014, it still won't begin to erase the memory of that day for me (or the embarrassment of the years following).

David Vande Bunte

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:56 p.m.

And the same Florida Gator team that won the NC the previous year. Gotta remember, Florida won in both 06 and 08, lost to UM in 07.

Joe Kidd

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:33 p.m.

I agree with Tag. A win gets you nothing and a loss gets you major embarrassment. Why? Does App State have a connection with UM? It's good for them win or lose because they get some bucks but it seems like a waste of a game day. So, that said, here is the perfect opportunity for brides to do what no bride should ever do, schedule a wedding on a fall Saturday. Here is your day, pick no other.

81wolverine

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:28 p.m.

Personally, I'd have preferred we schedule some other team. Too many bad memories from The Horror of 2007. On the other hand, playing them again shows we're not intimidated or avoiding a rematch because Michigan would have little or nothing to gain. But, I'm not worried unless Coach Carr comes out of retirement for that one. I'm confident by then, Hoke, Mattison, and the defensive coaches will have a D that can actually contain a spread offense. And Shane Morris will be throwing pinpoint pass completions all over the field and not missing all the key throws down the stretch.

Terrin Bell

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 5:05 p.m.

You can play a great team ten times, lose 9 times, but win once. Michigan's loss was not shameful. App State played great by exploiting Michigan's typical weakness (passing defense). It also took chances because it was hungry for an upset. Further, if I recall, Michigan started that season with some tough injuries.

David Briegel

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:24 p.m.

If you wanna see Michigan play a good team you have to go to Texas! That first game was really something special. A fine team with a winning tradition and a way overconfident Michigan team. It was brutal! A team with veteran leadership that was quite accustomed to finding a way to win close games. It was painful to watch Mich in those days go out there and try not to lose! treetown, you really liked those leather helmets!

heartbreakM

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:09 p.m.

Sorry for the typos. This is typed on a iPod touch

heartbreakM

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:07 p.m.

Just proved the old axiom that some people just never learn. After being so open about the need to upgrade the schedule, here we go again. I hope we lose again. Db will not schedule shone and home w/Texas or other tough opponent because of the money so what doeshe give us instead? This pretty sorry game. I do not look at is payback. Rather I see it as Michigan being cocky and going for a sure win and big payday. Shame on them. Same thing as I said last time.

B1

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:42 p.m.

Treetowncartel...Clemson would be a great game in the next few years, RR will be coaching them next year.

treetowncartel

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 9:15 p.m.

I agree, bring in a FBCS school, Clemson perhaps, or now would be the time to put Miami on the schedule.

scott

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 8:58 p.m.

Sweet, can I start watching the replays on ESPN now or do I have to wait until 6 months prior before it's a constant stream. Maybe BTN can just loop the game until then?

Tag

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 8:56 p.m.

It's a trap. Nothing to be gained by playing them, again. Seriously, WE ARE MICHIGAN.

Terrin Bell

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 5:02 p.m.

I guess the Leaders and the Best avoid giving underdogs a shot. Strange.

mt

Fri, Aug 26, 2011 : 10:44 a.m.

Leaders of the Mess

treetowncartel

Thu, Aug 25, 2011 : 8:55 p.m.

I'd say it is the biggest loss the team suffered since the switch from leather helmets.