Staff snub? Michigan's coaching staff left off top 10 list that includes Michigan State, Ohio State
Brady Hoke's Michigan football coaching staff was left off a list featuring the top 10 coaching contingents in America.
Melanie Maxwell | AnnArbor.com
The Michigan football team won 11 games for the first time since 2006, captured a Bowl Championship Series bowl victory for the first time since 2000, snapped a seven-game skid against Ohio State and equalled Rich Rodriguez's three-year Big Ten victory mark in one season.
The group also signed a top 10 recruiting class in 2012, and currently has the No. 2 class in tow for 2013.
But, apparently, those accomplishments weren't enough for Yahoo! writer Mike Huguenin, who compiled a list of the 10 best coaching staffs in the country Tuesday. The list included two Big Ten schools.
Michigan wasn't one of them.
In his list, Huguenin focused a great deal on team's head coach, offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. Hoke, Al Borges and Greg Mattison didn't make the cut.
Michigan State head coach Mark Dantonio, along with offensive coordinator Dan Roushar and Pat Narduzzi, came in at No. 9 on the list after rebuilding the MSU program by going 22-5 over the past two seasons.
Also making the cut from the Big Ten is Urban Meyer's Ohio State staff of offensive coordinator Tom Herman, co-defensive coordinator Everett Withers and co-defensive coordinator Luke Fickell.
Meyer's group, unlike Dantonio's, has yet to win a Big Ten game. But it's enough to chime in at No. 6.
Hoke and company will face Huguenin's No. 1 staff, Alabama, on Sept. 1. Oregon ranked at No. 2, while Virginia Tech -- who lost to Michigan in last season's Sugar Bowl -- was No. 3.
Nick Baumgardner covers Michigan sports for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at 734-623-2514, by email at nickbaumgardner@annarbor.com and followed on Twitter @nickbaumgardner.
Comments
Old Salt
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 5:37 p.m.
They are only one year old ..Give em a year or two to prove themselves.
Chad Williams
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 2:22 p.m.
Its not crazy. Hoke and co had one good year at Michigan so far. None of their recruits have played a down. Hoke s record before Michigan 47-50. How do you become a top ten head coach when you haven't A. Had back to back 10 seasons B. Never won a conference championship. Winning the sugar bowl and winning the mac west division title are his biggest accomplishments so far. Hoke has been known for taking on bad programs and turning them into good teams but he hasnt stayed long enough at those schools to sustain the run boise state has or Virginia tech has. Whether we beat virginia tech doesnt mean they havent been in a bcs game year after year. Hoke is on track but when he actually wins s conference title being the coach at michigan doesn't make you a great coach i.e RR. Win 2 Nc in three years or back to back 10 win seaons or win a conference title then you can gripe.
rs
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 2 p.m.
Like Yahoo is some kind of sports authority. You're talking about a company whose claim to fame is internet searching, and they don't even do that well. You can't even tell them to go back to what they do best, because that leaves them nothing.
Blue Marker
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 3:13 p.m.
Yahoo broke the OSU story bro! Just sayin'
Tru2Blu76
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 6:32 a.m.
Yahoo: can't even get their members' web pages to load completely. LOL! Picking Dantonio for the list proves that Yahoo is still out of the loop. Picking Urban Legend is just more evidence that Yahoo understands the word "trendy" but nothing more. I do wonder what Yahoo pays for list-making, I and a few others could take them a few steps forward. ;-)
Scott Gibson
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 4:49 a.m.
Don't forget Fred Jackson. How many NFL running backs has he coached? Three first-round draft choices: Wheatley (17th in 1995), Biakabutuka (eighth in 1996) and Perry (26th in 2004). He has been a constant in Ann Arbor for 21 years. Ground and pound was the way and will be again. He is irreplaceable.
TheOnlyColors
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 11:39 p.m.
Who cares what this guy thinks? Lets play football!
xmo
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 11:32 p.m.
Michigan got to play in the Sugar Bowl, a BCS game last season and didn't deserve it (Not a division or conference champion) so maybe this guy is from Missouri the "Show ME!" state? Please don't cry because someone isn't impressed with your rich history, just do what Michigan State did: Win!
aarox
Thu, Aug 23, 2012 : 2:43 a.m.
xmo, did deserve it. We won based on the rules in place for the BCS. The rules took into account a lot of non- football factors - fan base, name recognition, and other factors affecting the games profitability. Were we one of the top 8 teams in the country? Of course not. Neither we're the Big Ten conference champions. But we got the game because somebody thought we would make more money for the BCS. I'm ok with that. I'm not confused into thinking that being in a BCS bowl games makes us a better team than Wisky or State. That would be delirious. It's annoying to me, but I've relocated to SEC territory and there isn't a day that goes by where somebody doesnt 'remind' me that the Sugar Bowl more that anything else highlighted what was wrong with the BCS. there is a sports show down here that claims inside info that the Sugar Bowl selection was a factor (not the only one) in finally topping over to a limited playoff. As a proud Wolvie I'm happy to have been there. At the same time, while I 'deserved' it, clearly I didnt 'earn' it.
Mick52
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 10:07 p.m.
Michigan got the bowl because at the time of selection they were considered the best team for the game.
Blu n Tpa
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 1:21 p.m.
xmo I'm waiting for the answer. You're going to tell us that Alabama doesn't deserve a NC because they didn't win a division or conference title.
Blu n Tpa
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 12:07 a.m.
Excuse me, what division or conference title did Alabama win last year? xmo you tend to miss the obvious.
Scott
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 11:07 p.m.
Stupid list. Boise State at number 7! Come on. 12.5 wins per year for 4 years; beat Oklahoma, Georgia, Virignia Tech, and every Pac ten team that dares to play them; send two guys to the NFL in the first round who were two star recruitsin 2011; never had a recruiting class higher than 60; they lose coaches to bigger schools every year; a stadium that seat 30,000 and a recruiting budget to match; as clean a program as there is; have to go out of State for 90% of their talent. Hoke and staff should be proud to be off this idiotic list.
Scott Gibson
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 4:54 a.m.
Boise State athletic director Gene Bleymaier, the man behind the iconic blue turf at the school's football stadium and credited with a large role in the team's rise to national prominence, has been let go as the school faces sanctions because of violations in the football program and other sports. c/o ESPN August 11, 2011
aarox
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 2:53 a.m.
Bless your heart.
Aaron
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:24 p.m.
Dantonio and his staff deserve this one. I don't think OSU should be on the list yet, it isn't a list of top 10 HCs, and as already mentioned, this staff hasn't coached a game together. Personally, I'd like to see a larger body of work before Hoke & crew were included on the list (though I think they will deserve it in a couple years). Part of the allure of this award is to acknowledge schools that have had continuity with coaches sticking together for a number of years for the betterment of the program. That's probably why a crew like Va Techs is on the list; they have coached together for many years and have maintained a high level of success over that period (they are no flash in the pan).
iamcris
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:19 p.m.
Clearly Mike Huguenin is troll writer/blogger. I would bet ALL my cash that Michigan's coaching staff doesn't care about this top ten or any other dealing with coaching staff rankings...to them it's all about the kids. As it should be.
TheOnlyColors
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 12:33 a.m.
Amen. Bet you could say that about every staff on this list, with the OSU being the exception. All Urban Meyer really cares about is "being with his family" HA!
Steve McQueen
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:13 p.m.
This is just one man's opinion....btw this is the same guy who last week wrote that the best defender in the BT is Will Gholston. lol... Lewan owned that kid last year....he has no push or power to his rush...no way he is the best defender in the BT... he is not even the best player at his position in the BT. This yahoo writer is clueless about football.
Blue Marker
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 11:15 a.m.
Honestly Tom, you're going to call me out on spelling, on a name no less. Why don't you write something in all capitols so we know you really mean it!
Steve McQueen
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:59 p.m.
Tom and Too funny.... go to Youtube and type in Lewan vs. Gholston. Thugston got OWNED. It is right there on tape. The eye in the sky does not lie...ha ha.. you both are wrong and I just proved it. Next!
umgoblue47
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:27 p.m.
it's john simon for o$u and i hate to say it but he is a beast. . . he makes goldmember look like a wimp!! but goldmember has the helmet twisting down pretty good!! GO BLUE!!!
Tom
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:03 p.m.
Simmons? Get a clue. There is no Simmons on THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY roster.
TooFunny
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:38 p.m.
Obvious you dont watch MSU games. Gholston is a beast and is now a year older and stronger and smarter. Thats why most experts have him as a 1st round pick next year. UM fans show no respect to anyone and thats why every other fan base cant stand you guys.
Blue Marker
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:27 p.m.
I hate to say it but the best D-man in the B1G is probably John Simmons of OSU. The guys a beast!
MRunner73
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8 p.m.
Hunguenin's analysis is flawed because he's overrated U Meyer. A guy who let the FL Gator decline after Tebow graduated. (Lloyd Carr's team beat them, anyway in 2008). Hoke may not have the overall gaudy won-loss record but he elevated Ball State and SDSU. He's a great recruiter. Had an 11 and 2 record at Michigan in 2011 with a group of underdogs who did not too many B10 games. Maybe Michigan was rough around the edges in 2011 but they won and exceeded many of our expectations. Bottom line: Put Hoke and staff at #6 and drop U Meyer out, who was on shelf a year and after letting the Gators decline.
umgoblue47
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:42 p.m.
coach HOKE has out recruited dandy-dan two years in a row and by the time you figure out where the threat is the YOKE will be on you, brought to you by coach HOKE and you won't be laughing!! HAVE A NICE DAY tommy. . . GO BLUE!!!
MRunner73
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:15 p.m.
Tom: U Meyer is living in the past of two NCAA Div I championships, like I said, Lloyd Carr's team beat him in 2008...and twice on Sunday! GO BLUE!!
MRunner73
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:12 p.m.
Nick: Keep Sparty at #9, they earned it.
Tom
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:57 p.m.
Anybody who thinks that Brady "The Joke" Hoke is a better, more proven Coach than Urban Meyer needs serious help. Get real!
Nick Baumgardner
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:02 p.m.
You not going to give Michigan State's staff credit, Runner?
Blue Marker
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 7:32 p.m.
These lists are about as relevant as pre-season polls. I believe this fan base feels good about the men they have leading the program. Who cares what this list says? It's funny though, Mattison was Meyer's DC in Florida (Florida's success the reason Meyer is on the list) and Fickell got beat last year by this staff. Yet Fickell makes the list and Mattison doesn't, go figure.
Blue Marker
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 11:18 a.m.
I'm sure the Baltimore Ravens didn't know any better than to hire the guy. And I'd rather be the DC at Michigan than anything at The 'Ville. Don't worry Tom, I've figured it out a long time ago.
Tom
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:55 p.m.
Mattison was 1/2 of a DC duet. The other was Charlie Strong. One has a HC job and the other does not. Figure it out!
mixmaster
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 7:22 p.m.
It's obvious we aren't paying Hoke and his entourage enough. Because you know that if you want the best, you have to pay for it. And the rich execs and coaches will be the first to tell you.
Chizum
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 7:21 p.m.
I saw this earlier today and decided to write the author an email. Doesn't make sense to me. He snubbed all Michigan players in his "top" lists except Lewan. It was borderline ridiculous. Yet, he says he's picking Michigan to win the Big Ten. Can we say "trying to please everyone"?
Hailmary
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 7:54 p.m.
Tom, when I read your comments I think, geez if this guy wants to criticize and complain fine, but do it with some facts you know and throw in a touch of substance. At least make comments that folks can think about and consider rather than having to feel like you are just babbling for the sake of getting your tirades out. For instance Tom, you call Lewan a goon. Now that's just not a very nice way to talk about someone as if you know him personally, do you. Also, you say Mich. isn't going to come close to winning the BIG, I'm curious Tom, since the season has not started yet what do you base your facts on ? Come on Tom give us something we can bite into and think about and if your facts are correct I'm always willing to shift my opinion but you must state facts not just rhetoric for the sake of spouting mean gibberish.
Blu n Tpa
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 12:49 a.m.
TOC And, yet they were 6-2 in the Big Ten, and 11-2 overall and won a BCS bowl, first year out of the gate, with players you state are not competitive. What do you call that if not COACHING? Your coments about DRob are a sign that reality might be slipping away from you. He's a pre-season Heisman candidate and he plays QB. Facts, just sticks with the facts and you will be OK.
TheOnlyColors
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 11:38 p.m.
I dont really see that as a "snub". Look at your team. No, seriously. Look at your team. At this point, there aren't any NFL ready players except for Lewan (kids a BEAST). Denard is a very special player, but I wouldn't say he's among the best QBs in the B1G. Maybe one of the best RBs....
StopCrying
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:20 p.m.
Lewan will be a star in the NFL. He will eat your first born.
Tom
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:54 p.m.
Michigan ISN'T going to come close to winning the BIG 10. Lewan is a goon.
Terry Star21
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 7:05 p.m.
Yahoo, seriously ? Michigan coaches without a doubt, have proven in every way, shape and form that they are the nations best. Anyone not seeing this has absolutely no football knowledge at all, and/or is just a big yahoo ! MgoBlueForTiM...thugs to the north, medical/stress leaves to the south - stuck in the middle with the absolute best.
TheOnlyColors
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 11:31 p.m.
Absolutely adorable Terry
TheWay
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 7:08 p.m.
Oh, hold on. "without a doubt... in every way, shape and form..." ? And of course the best argument of them all: "Anyone not seeing this has absolutely no football knowledge at all"
Hailmary
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:53 p.m.
Nick Sabin was on a call in on the Dan Patrick show this morning and Nick said, I don't believe in pre season polls, Dan Patrick whole heartedly agreed. I like that , the Brady Bunch was not considered, let's just stoke that fire. That Yahoo writer probably would have placed Pete Carrol and Tressel on the list regardless of their dirty deeds and character assasination of their respective schools.
Wes
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 10:54 p.m.
Saban
81wolverine
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:47 p.m.
If Michigan didn't get on the list despite what they've actually achieved on the field and recruiting trail in the last year, then it's absurd to put Ohio on the list with zero track record on the field. At least Thugtonio has some record of achievement over the last 2 years.
aarox
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 2:51 a.m.
Tom, stop with the facts would you? That is totally out of place on this site!
michboy40
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 2:24 a.m.
Yea Mike, and Hoke is 1-0 against "Ohio". That is NOTembarrassing.
Blu n Tpa
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 12:40 a.m.
Mike, what team are you backing here? MSU or ohio? If it's over MSU, I'd be embarrassed by how your team tried to take out DRob by playing dirty. (It's a fact, everybody knows). If it's ohio, then you should be proud that your last coach got fired for lying and breaking his contract, which allowed the new coach, who left his Florida players when he lied to them about his health, which led him to the job at ohio? Either way, Mike, you need to look up the meaning of "embarrassing"!
Bly615
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 11:01 p.m.
Wait mike...arent you doing the same thing by calling him Fairy Star?? Just sayin...
Tom
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:52 p.m.
Dantonio's staff has the best record in the BIG regular season in the past 4 years (26-6), 3 years (21-3), 2 years (14-2) and past year (7-1)...DUH!
MRunner73
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 7:44 p.m.
Good point about the recruiting factor for Hoke and Michigan.
Terry Star21
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:59 p.m.
81....I like that Thugtonio - so accurate indeed !
TheWay
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:26 p.m.
How is Va Tech number 3 and Boise State at 7? One of those two coaching staffs constantly overachieve while the other constantly underachieves.
AJ1980
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 1:35 a.m.
Tom, To be fair, Hoke had to rebuild two football programs that had no talent at all. He made both Ball State and SDSU relevant. That's why his record is what it is. The fact that he was able to win at both programs proves he's more than capable of winning at the Big Ten level. Let's not forget that in spite of Rich Rod's misfortunes at Michigan, he did bring talent to this team. The cubbort is not bare at Michigan. That's why they went 11-2 last year, and why they will win this year. Hoke doesn't have to rebuild a roster at Michigan. All he has to do is win. So far, he's doing exactly that. WIN! God bless you all my friends :). Love you all :).
Blu n Tpa
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 12:31 a.m.
VaTech lost to the Michigan coaching staff in a BSC bowl game first time together and they are ranked higher? Just because someone wrote it on the internet doesn't mean it's a fact, it's that they have a computer and a forum. VaTech lost the game and that's a fact!
Scott
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 11:11 p.m.
Chris Petterson is a genius, no disrespect to our incredible coach and his staff.
Tom
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:49 p.m.
Urban Meyer is a proven commodity with 2 National championships. When Saban moved to Bama did he leave his track record behind? Hell No. Don't be ridiculous. How "proven" is Hoke's incoming recruiting class? That doesn't stop the fanatics here from touting it. Hoke is 58-52 lifetime as a Div 1 HC.
Nick Baumgardner
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:48 p.m.
I agree with you on Va. Tech, TheWay. I didn't get why that staff was so high, while Boise State (and Oklahoma State/Michigan State, for that matter) was so low. Also, Ohio State is a head-scratcher to me. The Buckeyes' current staff hasn't coached a game yet.
heartbreakM
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:24 p.m.
Marissa Mayer is having her wish. We are discussing Y@h&&. YAWN.
JustfortheRecord
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:17 p.m.
Actually, it is probably a good thing that this Yahoo article has MSU on the list... at least it's not another SEC team. Michigan's reputation takes care of itself, I guess, so... if we are trying to compete with the SEC, this is a good step.
Blu n Tpa
Wed, Aug 22, 2012 : 12:24 a.m.
Tom, you tend to live in a selective time frame that matches your point. How many time has Michigan had a winning streak longer than 4 vs MSU? What is the overall record? What is Michigan's record vs the SEC? You have the floor for now but than panic in your posts is showing the fact that you know the end for MSU is near. Enjoy it while you can.
Wes
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 10:53 p.m.
You can't even beat MSU, either one!
goldenblue
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 9:15 p.m.
Tom that was rich rods staff that got smoked.
Tom
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:46 p.m.
Last Michigan game vs. the SEC ended 52-14...you're lucky that it was Mississippi State. Where's the threat?
Terry Star21
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 7:08 p.m.
If we were competing with the SEC, we'd be 7-1 and in the BCS final every year.
JustfortheRecord
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:14 p.m.
If Michigan goes 22-5 over the next two seasons, they'll be on the list...
Nick Baumgardner
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:45 p.m.
That's probably a safe bet, Record.
Bmore_Wolverine
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:13 p.m.
Interesting on how a coaching staff that has co-DCs and has never coached a game together can nab the 6th spot. I hope Mr. Huguenin revisits this list at the end of the season... You know he won't, right?
Tom
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 8:45 p.m.
Terry - Speaking of Yahoos, are you going to accept my bet? If/when Michigan beats Bama as you have confidently predicted I leave the site...however, if the Tide Roll as I have predicted you leave the site! Put "money" where mouth is?!
Terry Star21
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 7:09 p.m.
He's a yahoo.
StopCrying
Tue, Aug 21, 2012 : 6:09 p.m.
Yahoo knows their sports...