Reports say former Ohio State football recruit Kyle Kalis has switched to Michigan
The Michigan football team added one of the top offensive linemen in the nation to its 2012 recruiting class on Sunday, according to multiple reports.
Originally an Ohio State recruit, Kyle Kalis, a 6-foot-5, 302-pound offensive tackle from Lakewood (Ohio) St. Edward High School, told the Michigan coaching staff during a visit Sunday that he would be a Wolverine says The Wolverine, GoBlueWolverine.com and other sources.
Kalis, the top recruit in the state of Ohio according to Rivals.com, was an early Ohio State commit who still planned to become a Buckeye after Yahoo Sports published its story in early March about coach Jim Tressel covering up players’ ineligibility.
Kalis told Sporting News in May that he would honor his commitment to Ohio State if Tressel remained the coach, saying “I’m 100 percent unless anything happens (to Tressel), then it’s up in the air.”
Tressel was forced to resign on May 31 and Kalis -- after originally reaffirming his commitment to new Ohio State coach Luke Fickell -- de-committed on June 21.
Kalis becomes the highest-ranked player in Michigan’s 19-member recruiting class.
He has a 5-star rating, is the No. 40 overall player and sixth-best offensive tackle in the nation according to Scout.com.
Rivals.com lists him as a 4-star recruit, but only hands out 5-star ratings to 17 players. Kalis is No. 18 on the Rivals top 100 list and the No. 4 offensive tackle.
ESPN.com and 247Sports.com both rate him as a 4-star prospect
ESPN.com’s evaluation of Kalis: “Kalis is a tough run blocker capable of controlling defenders with his upper body playing strength. Has the size with enough athleticism for the offensive tackle position at the major level of competition. If edge speed becomes a factor this prospect could end up inside at the offensive guard spot.”
Kalis is the third 4-star offensive tackle recruit in the class, joining Erik Magnuson from Carlsbad, Calif., and Blake Bars from Nashville, Tenn. Verbal commitments are non-binding.
Comments
Huron 74
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 10:05 p.m.
I see some OSU fans whining on here. Seems I remember them ripping us when old RR had his troubles with the NCAA. Sure glad we got rid of him or we could be in the same boat as those sad sacks. Go Brady, Go Blue!
truebluefan
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 2:57 p.m.
Chad -- Look, here's how it is around here. If you're willing to be patient and take on a wait and see approach with Hoke, well, you run the risk of being labeled as part of the "MCC" around these parts. Any positive comments about the "WCiMFH" will not be tolerated, or, it will immediately be met with a list of canned negative responses about "whatshisname". So, all you need to do is accept your scarlet letters. Otherwise, prepare to be insulted.
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Thu, Jul 14, 2011 : 11:47 a.m.
All evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. Good Night and Good Luck
truebluefan
Thu, Jul 14, 2011 : 5:02 a.m.
"The RichRod Man Crush Crowd (like Miss Lorraine), pretend to be Michigan fans, but their true loyalties lie with the recently departed WCiMFH, the person responsible for the first probation in program history, the person responsible for the worst three-year record in program history, the person responsible for the worst team defense in program history." Again, you do not speak the truth, Mr. Ghost. My true loyalties lie with Michigan Football. You can hate Rich all you want, but the indisputable fact remains that he was the head coach of Michigan Football for three seasons and his name forever lives on in Michigan history. Any questions?
missionbrazil
Thu, Jul 14, 2011 : 1:08 a.m.
Chad sure is getting alot of attention for being an OSU fan.
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Thu, Jul 14, 2011 : 12:58 a.m.
"EMRG conventiently ignors the fact that he has NO connection to Michigan, while i have two degrees here." There you go again, Miss Lorraine, just making it up about me, since you have no idea whatsoever who I am. I, too, have two degrees from the U of M, and have been a fan since I was old enough to appreciate the greatest game on the planet: college football. But that you feel compelled to make it up about someone you do not know makes all of your other claims (e.g., you talked to Hanlon and Moeller. Yeah. Right) as worthless as Confederate money. Good Night and Good Luck
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Thu, Jul 14, 2011 : 12:27 a.m.
Dear Sweetheart Lorraine: Hater? Hardly! You're my dear sweetheart, Lorriane! As for the Ann Arbor News Story, surely you can find a link? Shouldn't take much time. Because I have a link: <a href="http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/dave-brandon-michigan-football-team-must-return-to-business-as-usual/?plckFindCommentKey=CommentKey:962a0a68-205e-4eda-aabb-31376b1cf74c">http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/dave-brandon-michigan-football-team-must-return-to-business-as-usual/?plckFindCommentKey=CommentKey:962a0a68-205e-4eda-aabb-31376b1cf74c</a> where you wrote: "Or are the rumors true that Bo himself, and Don Nehlen both supported Rodriguez for the new HC job, when LC left?" Nothing about reports in the A2 News before Bo died. Nope. Rumors that Bo supported the hiring of the WCiMFH "when LC left." Never mind that "LC left" more than a year after Bo had passed away. It would appear to a reasonable person that, unable to defend the record of the WCiMFH, you dragged a dead icon into the debate and put words in his mouth. But you can put all of this to rest, dearest Lorraine. Find a link to that A2 News story. I'm certain its there. Good Night and Good Luck
Lorain Steelmen
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 10:40 p.m.
Chad, I think I know what I posted, and what the facts were! (At the time of RR's hire, the AA ran an article recalling that Bo, in fact, had followed RR's career at WVU, before he died.) When I brought this to light, it obviously destroyed ERMG's false premise, that anyone like Bo, would support RR. Since it blew up ERMG's entire 'rant', he has since twisted my remarks, to say, I said Bo 'rose from'the dead'...so by trying to mock me, ERMG has lost all credibilty! And ERMG, further ignors my conversation with Jerry Hanlon, in Toledo, at the time of the hire, urging that UM alumni support RR, and have patience with him, since RR did not have the talent that Bo had in '69. (Both Hanlon, AND, Gary Moeller went on to support RR thoroughout his time here.) But ERMG, thinks if he repeats the lie, often enough, it will eventually be taken as truth. He purposely likes to confuse a steeltown in Ohio, with a girl's name...as though that is, somehow, going to get me to 'back off'. EMRG conventiently ignors the fact that he has NO connection to Michigan, while i have two degrees here. I'm sure it bugs the livin' crap out of him...and I love it! So Chad, my advise would be, keep on posting the truth. Your perspectives will be considered by those on here a that are open-minded. As for the others..they're just haters. You'll learn who they are, pretty soon.
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 5:51 p.m.
Chad, One last thing. Miss Lorraine likes to write fiction (e.g., Coach Carr left the cupboard bare). Not only can she not provide any factual evidence whatsoever to support her weird version of history (you know, like the facts I cite above about the WCiMFH) but, in some cases, her stuff is just too funny. For instance, she REALLY thinks that Bo rose from the dead in 2007 to recommend to Bill Martin that he hire the soon to be WCiMFH. Man crushes do weird things to one's logic. Good Night and Good Luck
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 5:45 p.m.
Chad, The RichRod Man Crush Crowd (like Miss Lorraine), pretend to be Michigan fans, but their true loyalties lie with the recently departed WCiMFH, the person responsible for the first probation in program history, the person responsible for the worst three-year record in program history, the person responsible for the worst team defense in program history. And anyone who dares point out this miserable record and this odd loyalty is, equally oddly, written off as being a Buckeye fan. Funny. I would think that Buckeye fans would want the WCiMFH to hold that position forever. Maybe that explains Lorraine's fixation with him. Good Night and Good Luck
Lorain Steelmen
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 2:41 p.m.
Chad. The 'anti RR crowd', pretends to be Michigan fans, but conveniently neglect to mention that they undermined and attacked the UM coach, from the day he took over. (They sound like osu/msu fans, don't they?) They denie that Lloyd Carr allowed the program to degenerate, claiming that RR was responsible for Carr losing 6 of his last 7 games to osu, and 5 of his last 7 bowl games. They don't like questions @ how the great Lloyd Carr, could field a team that lost to Appy State! They question those of us who called them out, yet they neglect to tell you, that Carr left the cupboard bare, talked Ryan Mallett into leaving the program, refused to meet with potential recruits, on 8 occasions, and spent the '09 Iowa game with UI big shots, rather than join the UM team, on the sidelines. (Unlike Gary Moeller who supported the team, ON THE SIDES, that evening. They denie that Bo's Lts, Gary Moeller and Jerry Hanlon supported the new coach, and that Bo himself, had followed RR's career at WVU, before Bo died. They will try to twist your comments, take things out of context, and in general, denigrate anyone who dares to disagree with them.
GoblueinNE_PA
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 2:20 p.m.
ERMG It's become a canned response because it has to be repeated so often. RR was an utter failure at Michigan, it's not even debatable. Why he still has defenders on this board, I'll never know.
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 3:59 a.m.
"^^^ there it is, Chad." I guess that's the non-canned remark? A typically brilliant MCC riposte to facts they cannot refute. And when will we hear that it's all Lloyd's fault? Good Night and Good Luck
truebluefan
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 3:45 a.m.
^^^ there it is, Chad.
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 3:59 p.m.
"Canned remarks" = citing the record of the WCiMFH. For example: *6-18 in the Big Ten *0-12 against Big Ten teams with winning records *1-13 against MSU/OSU/PSU/Iowa/Wisky *Never finished higher than tied for 7th in the Big Ten *2-11 against teams that were in the Top 25 at the time the game was played *Winless against teams that finished the season in the Top 25. *Three straight seasons not in the Top 25 (had not happened since 1965, '66, and '67) *From 24th in the nation in defense in 2007 (Carr's last year), to 67th in 2008, to 84th in 2009, to 110/120 teams in 2010 *A mediocre offense against quality teams (e.g., EMU scored more points against OSU in 2010 than we did). *Worst bowl loss in Michigan history *1st NCAA probation in Michigan history As for the fiction that the WCiMFH was poised to take the U to 9 or more wins: In 2010 Michigan won 7 games by a total of 93 points, 44 of which were against that football powerhouse down at BGSU. Taking BGSU out of the mix, Michigan won 6 games by a total of 49 points, for an average differential of 8.1 points per game. The difference in four of those six games was less than 7 points. In other words, Michigan was one mistake/penalty/turnover/bad call/incompetent coaching move away from losing four more games. By contrast, Michigan lost 6 games by a total of 125 points, for an average differential of nearly 21 points. Two of those losses were by 10 points. The other four losses were by 17 points or more. In other words, none of those losses were close. Michigan lost all of them by at least two scores and four of them by at least three scores. Hard to conclude, given these numbers, that the UM under the WCiMFH was anywhere near being one of the conference's top teams. I wonder what the "non-canned" response to these facts might be? Oh. That's right. It's Lloyd Carr's fault. Good Night and Good Luck
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 3:40 a.m.
Lorraine wrote: "No way the league has to take a 'back seat' to the SEC, anymore!" This just in. The SEC cheats. A lot. And gets away with it. Source: <a href="http://www.cbssports.com/#" rel='nofollow'>http://www.cbssports.com/#</a>!/collegefootball/story/15304779/infractions-scoreboard-nearly-everybody-gets-in-on-the-fun So, no thanks. The SEC is not what I aspire the U of M or the Big Ten to become. Good Night and Good Luck
Chad Williams
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 3:33 a.m.
@ Blu N Tpa.... Please present facts not fictional dreams that havent came true. Besides that you sound just like every other MIch fan since 2007... Lets start with the get Coach Carr outta here bandwagon that im sure 90 % percent of Mich fans said when they started 0-2 dropped out the 25 after being ranked 5 and two embarassing loses AT HOME. Then the whole RR bandwagon, when we thought we were just gonna dust past the comp with all this non existing speed that was never here. So 3-9, 5-7, 7-6 happens yea i got sick of RR too and even though he could have got things changed he put himself in trouble ignoring the defense. So here goes Hoke and if he goes 8-4 in year one then he will be expected to win 10 games in year two with road games in south bend, columbus, and dallas vs bama. Not an easy task. Lets be realistic so we wont be on here come october when they do have a loss or two crying about losing again. Lets wait til year two or three to be optimistic about u of m football.
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 6:39 p.m.
CW wrote: "Come august osu starts winning and terelle pryor never existed." And so it comes out. CW is a Tosu fan. Makes sense. Good Night and Good Luck
Blu n Tpa
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 6:08 p.m.
8-4 is good when you haven't been 8-4 for several years. I'm not sure about all that other crap about LJ but TP will be remembered for a while due to the damage he caused. The rest was really not on point so ...?
Chad Williams
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 3:37 p.m.
Good morning to you Mr. Blu. So when does 8-4 mean a lot at michigan. This past decade all the has been has been a bunch of 8-4 and 9-3 seasons. Im make it short and sweet for you. Lebron James has been to 2 NBA finals, if he retired today would you say Lebron James the two time east conf champ or the 2 time nba finals loser. Lebron and u of m are in the same boat right now. They both are news worthy stories but people want to take advantage when a player or team goes through its tough times. Just a few years ago we were in trouble with the ncaa nothing positive was being put out in the media. No why? No wins to keep peoples mind off the negative stuff. Come august osu starts winning and terelle pryor never existed.
Blu n Tpa
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 12:59 p.m.
Good Morning Mr. Williams. I'm not sure what facts you are asking for but I will try to address your concerns as best as I can. First off, Coach Carr gave 30 years of his life to the University of Michigan (fact). He gave back to the University in many ways, both on and off the field (Fact). He is being inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame (Fact) so I'll leave it at that. (By the way he was up for Coach of the Year for the season you singled out. Fact.) I'm not really a bandwagon type of guy so I'll leave that to those that are. If Coach Hoke goes 8-4 this year that would be great. Total change on defense, developing a hybrid offense to match the talent already here are critical, and difficult. Finding a kicking game that rewards the offense for getting on the other teams side of the field and improving field position which also helps the "D", is equally important. What I will be looking for is how much better are the players being coached up to do what is required. Tackling, blocking, angles of pursuit, shedding blockers, etc... those are the things you build a football team on. Wins are great and build confidence but learning how to play your position to the best of your ability is paramount to team building. Loses will come and there will be angst. The second year is always the hardest for several reasons. Coach Hoke and staff knows this and will try to overcome it. You says lets be "realistic" but I, like a lot of those posting here, want to be optimistic about the future of Michigan Football. I do like what this staff is doing recruiting-wise. These guys know what they are doing. Like it? Hell, I LOVE it! I hope I answered your questions and if not, well we will just have to live with a little disappointment. But remember "This is Michigan" and please, "Go Blue!"
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 3:38 a.m.
@CW: Welcome to the MCC. Lorraine, theo, and tater will enjoy your company. Good Night and Good Luck
OldBittyBates
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 1:03 a.m.
Please address this question... How many football scholarships does Michigan have to offer overall? How many more do they legally have to give out? Kyle Kalis is great, but the Wolverines have so many needs left to fill such as field goal kicking. I'm glad and proud that OSU lost one of their potential stars.
Blu n Tpa
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 1:16 p.m.
OBB Michigan (and I believe the conference/NCAA) allows a maximum of 25 scholarship a year. There is a "grey" area where a team can take more but it involves players leaving, recruits coming in after the fall semester, and other stuff I just don't feel inclined to check out. The coaching staff will have to balance the needs of the whole team with the players that want to come to Michigan. So far they are doing a great job. Matt Wile, from SoCal, is joining the returning kickers to try to improve a glaring hole in Michigan's special teams. Special teams is a "window" to how well a team is coached. What you saw on STs over the last several years is what you saw on the rest of the team. That is ALL on the coaches. I think you will be happy with how this team plays STs this year. It wont be perfect but you will see improvement and see it throughout the year. TiM Go Blue!
Chad Williams
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 3:23 a.m.
They have 25 overall and they have 5 more to give out. I am also see that your not on cloud 9 over a recruit that doesnt fit a need.
southernblu
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 10:54 p.m.
Geeze, since when did it become unfashionable to be optimistic about your team? Point taken about Hoke not accomplishing anything on the field yet--but then that point applies to every team in college football as of now--including the Auburn Tigers. No coach has done anything. Last year is over and done. But, if we're looking at what can be measured right now, namely recruiting, Hoke is doing a fantastic job. Most important, he's getting Michigan players of the Michigan mold. And while it's great to have players with high star ratings, I'm more concerned that he gets players equipped to play in the Big Ten and who either have or can be easily indoctrinated with Michigan values. Honestly, I rather have a team full of 3 star Big Ten type players than a team full of 4 star Big East type players. Fortunate for us, Hoke is getting 4 star and (possibly 5 star) Big Ten players.
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 11:35 p.m.
Dead on, sb. Anything else is just window dressing. TiM Go Blue!
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 9:43 p.m.
Thank you for today's LS and CW Show. Although Michigan is at or near the TOP in recruiting NATIONALLY, and has been addressing the defensive side of the ball most of the time, some people, LS and CW, want you to think; A. Michigan is recruiting the wrong players for this class. B. The WCiMFH laid the foundation to all the success the Coach Hoke has had so far with this class. A. Michigan is recruiting a high level of football player and with scholarships still available and knowing what they need I suspect Coach Hoke and staff has a handle on it. Although Michigan is OK on the Oline for the next year or so, this class wont be ready, in almost all the cases, to start D-I football until their redshirt season. Thus the reason to garner as many O-Linemen as possible with this class. The reason why there is no depth on the D-Line is because .... B. The WCiMFH didn't get this many quality recruits in three years at Ann Arbor. And the lack of defensive players, like the lack of defense period, is due his turning a blind eye to two thirds of the team. Coach Hoke has a history with Michigan and he knows what to expect and what he needs to compete. All he's done, since they are no games to play yet, is turn around the attitude and vision of the TEAM, it's fans and their collective future. But please stay tune for more from the LS and CW Show. Future guest, Ben N DeNile, will discuss coping with lost love and handling failure. The singing group "MCC" will sing a medley of Josh Groban songs for your entertainment. TiM Go Blue!
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 2:55 a.m.
Can always count on Blu & Don to cut through the MCC baloney. Good Night and Good Luck
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 11:32 p.m.
DonAZ continues to be the Voice of the Desert, like Moses, bringing wisdom to those who thirst for the truth. Hey Don, just funning, but you are becoming sage-like with your posts. I think it's because you like what you are seeing from the new coaching staff and knew it was necessary. Like the numbers approach but to evaluate a class look down the road. Not enough players being coached up to play at the D-I level, at least in the upper reaches of the Big Ten. Look forward to seeing your stuff again. Tim Go Blue!
DonAZ
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 10:38 p.m.
According to Rivals.com: 2008 -- 24 commits; 0 five-star; 17 four-star; 6 three-star and 2 two-star 2009 -- 22 commits; 1 five-star; 13 four-star; 6 three-star and 2 two-star 2010 -- 27 commits; 0 five-star; 6 four-star; 20 three-star and 1 two-star 2011 -- 20 commits; 0 five-star; 6 four-star; 13 three-star and 1 two-star 2012 -- 20 commits; 0 five-star; 10 four-star; 10 three-star and 0 two-star The 2008 group, largely recruited by Carr and signed by Rodriguez, looked promising. Rodriguez's 2009 crop looked very promising. His 2010 group fell off quite a bit in terms of Rivals-rated talent. We could speculate as to why this took place. I would argue that the 3-9 season and then the 5-7 season with the late season collapse didn't help. The 2011 group, largely recruited by Rodriguez but signed by Hoke, mirrors the 2010 group. The 2012 group is good but not Texas good or Florida State good. But it's an improvement, and is true in a lot of cases the key is the trend. This is one data point, but the hope is that it represents a trend back in the right direction.
Lorain Steelmen
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 8:10 p.m.
Chad. I understand what you are saying..and that Hoke must motivate and inspire, these new recruits, once he gets them. But, in a way, the new Big Ten set up, with the new championship game format, should actually, put the big ten winner, in very good shape to compete for a NC. Example ...this year UM would need to beat msu and N'western on the road, throw in Iowa, again on the road, and also beat ND, Nebraska and OSU, in the regular season, AND, then win the title game against a PennState or a Wisconsin. That would be just a tremendous accomplishment! I think what Hoke is saying, as well as Brandon, that to stay 'focused', on the league 'title' keeps a school right in the middel of the NC race. No way the league has to take a 'back seat' to the SEC, anymore!
Chad Williams
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 7:48 p.m.
I wish people would stop it with the michigan is back on top of the world speech. Havent won a game on the field yet vs anyone let alone osu or msu. Since 1948 only a half of a NC, oh i guess lets count the numerous big ten championships that resulted in only a shared NC in 1997. Here is a fact Wake Forest won an Acc championship in 2006, who knew that? Only Wake fans because no one cares about winning a conference champ. Michigan will never be NC contenders cause the mindset is to get to the rose bowl. Got news after 1997 the BCS tookover college football. Only one team has one a NC without playing is USC beating ummm i think it was Michigan in the rose bowl yea pretty sure it was in convincing fashion. Thats two points in one that shows michigans dominance over the years lol and two having rose bowl asperations will get u a rose bowl game but never a crystal ball. Yet to see one inside crisler yet. All im saying is lets think 2011 noit 1997 rose bowls only win you a NC once every four years now.
DonAZ
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 9:44 p.m.
Look, it's all understandable excitement ... somewhat premature, as you note, but understandable. I'll remind people there was a similar sense of anticipation when Rodriguez prepared for his first season. His arrival was to shepherd in a new era of lightning fast "spread" play. I think most reasonable people understood it would take time to implement the system entirely. I doubt anyone expected a 3-9 season. Still, hope springs eternal. And with the landing of Forcier the 2009 season the hope was we'd see the effects. A good start ... then collapse. 2010 ... good start, then collapse. So yes, there's some pent up excitement about Michigan football. The recruiting successes are simply fanning the flames. And with the season just around the corner, we're all eager to see the new Hoke era start. Do we have a long string of recent national championships? No. Do we have Heisman contenders every season? No. Do we haul in five-star recruits and ESPN-150 players like Texas or Alabama? No. But do we have a program with a long history of excellence? Yes. Are we passionate about Michigan football? Yes. Do we wish Michigan football to return to its former glory? Absolutely yes. Do we NEED national championships to love the program? No. Are we willing to abandon all principles in pursuit of "crystal?" No. And that's why the excitement runs high for Hoke -- he understands that there's more to this game than just "crystal" or the nation's best recruits. He will win his share of games. He may not win a championship. Or he may. We shall see.
Blu-dogg97
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 8:48 p.m.
Haven't won a game on the field,only because one hasn't been played yet!! I recall Glen Rice bringing a NC to Crisler in 1989 !
Lorain Steelmen
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 7:44 p.m.
This is a significant addition because it helps create a recruiting pipeline, at Lakewood St. Ed's, in particular, (a strong D1 powehouse here in Ohio), but also, because it may expand to St Ignatious, and other powerhouses, in the Cleveland area. Throw in the schools to the south, in the Akron / Canton area, and Hoke is hopefully beginning to build a solid base. Cleveland down to Akron is a fanatical ohio football area. (Note... didn't Jack Miller, the new DE recruit form Perrysburg, (most recently @ Toledo St John's), transfer to the 'Johnnies' from St Ed's? I think Miller played at Ed's as a junior. Anyway, for those 'RR haters' out there, Miller was recruited by RR, and retained by Hoke. At some point, UM fans need to grasp, that this is a continuation, of the work RR had started. To continue, there has been some buzz recently down here, about a DE out of Toledo Whitmer, named Chris Wormley. Recall that Kevin Koger also was a Toldeo Whitmer product , and Wormley may be impacted by Kalis' decision. Even the 'haters' can start connecting the dots. But my concern at this point, is getting help for Martin at DT.....I maintain, that the best defenses start with relentless pressure on QB's, starting with pressure up front. It makes the LB's and those DB's back there, look a whole lot better, when the QB is running for his life!
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 10:14 p.m.
LS You need to work on continuity. You wrote "create", "may expand into", "Hoke is hopefully beginning to build a solid base" and then you write "UM fans need to grasp, that this a contiunation, of the work (WCiMFH) had started." No it's NOT! He didn't recruit mid-west players. Hell, he ignored Michigan so badly MSU and MAC schools beat him annually like a drum recruiting-wise, and MSU on the field.. This spring Coach Hoke had to hand out business cards to Michigan high school coaches to remind them there's a school in Ann Arbor that still plays a little football. Thanks for covering all the bases here. Sorry, wrong metaphor (but you like softball so you will understand.). TiM Go Blue
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 10:01 p.m.
Mick, could it be love at first sight? It's like watching two people play ping-pong from the same side of the table. Well, I wish them all the happiness and I wish Michigan Football all the SUCCESS! TiM Go Blue!
Mick
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 9:14 p.m.
Hey Lorain, looks like you have a comrade on this thread in Chad. Also, Troy Smith and Pryor, hmm, oh yeah, you mean those two players that had the most major impact in games against U-M that should have been ineligible to play in the the 1st place? And Chad, please quit making Roundtree sound like he was a 5 star recruit. He needs to stop dropping as many passes as he has in his career. He has a lot to prove yet!
Lorain Steelmen
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 8:46 p.m.
Chad... Agreed! I would have expected to see Hoke 'loading up' on DT's. Think back to the earlier 2000's before RR came in. Tressel used, first Troy Smith, and then TP, to 'out-quick' the UM defenses. Both guys could 'break contain', and UM just didn't standup physically and speed wise, against the Bucks! Hoke must get these new kids 'foaming at the mouth'....its' all about intensity, and passion, and to be blunt, the Carr teams of around 2001, when (no co-incidence) Hoke left for Ball State, and later, lost that 'intensity'!
Chad Williams
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 8 p.m.
I agree with you. People are acting like no player in 3 years from ohio has step foot in Ann Arbor. I guess Roy Roundtree was from outerspace. Then with the point of concern at DT. Getting a OT still doesnt solve the main issue with this team which is talent and depth at that position. You would think Mr. Defense would have 4 DT commits instead of 4 OT commits. I think people are forgetting the fact that you have a coach that never had expectations. He has to win NOW. There is no losing season. Im also inclined to believe that having 20 verbals before august is pretty much telling me that this season is gonna be mediorce so they are building a bond with players so they wont de-commit.
Blu-dogg97
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 6:58 p.m.
YOU GO Brady.. great get for Blue.. Kalis said a week or so ago,if Chris Wormley a 3 star DE from Toledo was going to commit to Blue he would,and Wormley is supposed make his decision any day now,so this tells us Kalis already knows Wormley is coming.. Fun Facts- Kyle's father is Todd Kalis x NFL o-linemen for the Steelers,and Viks Todd went to ASU .. Michigan also recieved a verbal commit Friday from Jarrod Wilson a 4 star safety from Akron ,some say the best DB in ohio. and to top things off Michigan has 2 4star DT visiting by the end of July, Danny O'Brien from Flint,and Pipkins from Kansas City Mo. If one doesn't get excited about what the future brings at Michigan you don't have a pulse !! HAIL YES THIS IS MICHIGAN..
umgoblue47
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 6:25 p.m.
huge pickup for michigan! i agree with terrystar21, reminds me of jake long only with a more nasty edge. welcome to michigan kyle!! GO BLUE!!
kidmich
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:52 p.m.
Looks like he did a lot of "holding" in his promo video.
DonAZ
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 7:40 p.m.
Plus, he's still a relatively un-coached kid. Give him some time with the Michigan coaches and we'll see what he becomes. That's the key here ... *not* what these players are right now, but what potential they have under the right coaching and right conditions.
Buster W.
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:59 p.m.
It's only 'holding' if they throw a flag...I didn't see any flags.
Buster W.
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:39 p.m.
Funny, I can't find a story on this in The Dispatch???
Chad Williams
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 3:57 p.m.
Yes its over recruiting when your biggest need and problem is the Dline. If mike martin went down there is no true replacement. When he graduates who will replace. I like the recruits but recruiting to our strength with is the o line doesnt make us that much better. At this point fans will like anything hoke does til he loses a game. We are sitting here like we never could recruit in ohio before hoke arrived. So yes we got depth and talent on the oline but again was the oline the issue or was the weak shorthanded dline the issue?
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Thu, Jul 14, 2011 : 11:52 a.m.
Gee. I thought you were a Michigan fan, not a WCiMFH fan, tbf. Wow. The WCiMFH got us a QB!! Amazing!! Too bad he didn't come up with the other 21 players to go with him, especially on the defensive side of the ball. But, OK. Your point is proven based on one recruit. The WCiMFH was a marvelous recruiter. So, I guess the worst three-year record in program history must be due to the fact that he was a miserable coach who, by the way, cheated. Good Night and Good Luck
truebluefan
Thu, Jul 14, 2011 : 5:04 a.m.
Who's going to be the QB this year, Mr. Ghost? Did Rich close the deal on him? How about his backup? Or do you want to erase the next four years from your memory because guys that Rich, er uh the "WCiMFH" recruited will be playing for Michigan?
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 7:29 p.m.
tbf wrote: "RR recruited two defensive tackles in 2009 (I believe) that flipped their commitments on signing day." So, on top of all of his other manifest shortcomings, the WCiMFH could not close the deal with recruits, either. Good Night and Good Luck
truebluefan
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 1:55 a.m.
RR recruited two defensive tackles in 2009 (I believe) that flipped their commitments on signing day -- Daquinta Jones and Pearlie Graves. Both have enjoyed decent success thus far so they were two legitimately good D linemen. Sometimes kids change their minds. Go ahead and blame RR all you want but you can't say that he didn't foresee the impending lack of depth on the roster. In other words, he wasn't ignoring this issue with the D.
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 9:53 p.m.
CW If anyone goes down, there wont be any help coming from the 2012 CLASS until September 2012, if then. But you raise an interesting question: Why isn't there any depth on the defensive side of the ball? If Coach Carr left the cupboard bare, as some have stated, and stated, and...you get the point, why didn't the WCiMFH go out and get players like you are castigating Coach Hoke to do? Double standard or an agenda to degrade what's being accomplished in a short time by men with vision and desire to succeed? I think MOST of those out there know the answer to that. So take comfort in your fears and remember that you are running out of things to be nagative about, rapidly. I, myself, for one, solely think the glass is getting damn full, fast. TiM Go Blue!
DonAZ
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 7:38 p.m.
So what would you have done if you were Hoke ... tell Kalis to go away?
Chad Williams
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 7:24 p.m.
@ Blu n Tpa... When I see a five star DT then i will be impressed. All we heard from Hoke was how the D needs to get tough and blah blah blah but out of 19 verbals the is maybe 1 DT that looks like he will be redshirted.
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 6:30 p.m.
Which d-linemen did Coach Hoke and Staff miss out on that wanted to come to UM but they said no? No one, just like I thought. I can assure you they will take all the good ones they can. Thanks for your interest and stay in touch.
DonAZ
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:38 p.m.
I would suggest you submit your application for consulting advisor to Greg Mattison and Brady Hoke. They might have overlooked the defensive line needs.
catfishrisin
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 3:32 p.m.
Glad to hear you depend on Ohio boys to carry your team. Go OSU!
kidmich
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:54 p.m.
Can't help if they want to go to the best school, with the greatest tradition. Who can blame them?
David Vande Bunte
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:50 p.m.
Interesting comment, considering Sterling Heights native Craig Krenzel was a long time starter for the Buckeyes, and didn't he win a National Championship??? Aren't there six players from the 2010 OSU roster that are from Michigan? In fact, doesn't Ohio State routinely recruit players from Michigan? All it means is that there are at least a few intelligent young men from Ohio who are smart enough to know that when a ship is sinking, its time to jump off. Glad to hear you depend on Michigan boys to carry your team, especially to a National Championship. GO BLUE!
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:16 p.m.
Hey fish, did you have a choice of where you were born and raised? NO? If I remember correctly most kids first real decision is what to do after high school. Michigan doesn't care where grat players come from, only where they want to play football. Seems history has shown Michigan is a great place to go to and O LI O is a good place to be FROM.
Hailmary
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 3:07 p.m.
This story of a highly touted offensive lineman brings to mind young Mr. Boren that left Mich. because of deterioating family values. It also brings to mind an old saying, ''What goes around comes around". Because of his youth, his rhetoric against Mich. is understandable and forgivable but let's all hope that young Mr. Boren learned a valuable lesson about greener pastures and how your big mouth can come back to bite your own butt.
Rizzle
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 1:57 p.m.
It's too bad that this changes very little for Michigan and Kyle will regret his decision because TSIO will continue to be TSIOTCTDAEMEY. That School In Ohio That Continues To Dominate And Embarass Michigan Every Year.
kidmich
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:57 p.m.
A real dreamer, aren't you?
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:10 p.m.
Yes and Michigan has the lead in that category also, again if you can count. Or is it read? Either way, it appears that Michigan wins more when you play by the rules. Wow, no wonder you cheat. So you don't mind losing the games on paper because you were caught lying, cheating, stealing, to win games on the field? Well I guess it's good you're a fan of tsopio that wont be going to a bowl game, no matter how well they play on the field, for the next few years. You take care OK?
Rizzle
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 3:47 p.m.
Blue n Tpa Games are pretty much decided on the field, not in NCAA documents or tattoo parlors. I am talking about the physical, real, actual embarassment that happens on a late Saturday afternoon in November each year.
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 3:18 p.m.
If you can count, the number of victories over Michigan is going DOWN! And if I were you I wouldn't use the word "embarass" in public given the lying, cheating, and stealing your team has ADMITTED to doing in NCAA documents recently. When you are already in a hole, stop digging.
JB
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 2:29 p.m.
That's a whole lot of delusion and bitterness you've got there. You're going to need every bit of it over the next decade too. Go Blue!
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 1:06 p.m.
Hey, where's that guy who wrote that Coach Hoke was "over recruiting"? You mean like this? I sure hope he continues to "over-recruit" until February 2012, or maybe by then he will have "over-recruited" for the Class of 2013 too! He may get verbal commitments for every available scholarship done by the March 1st next year. There is one thing he has "over-recruited". Know what it is? tsopio (that school on probation in ohio. And not like UM, I mean like no bowl game, loss of victories, fewer scholarships, and a microscope stuck so far up the south end of a north bound nut that the NCAA can see the back of his teeth, kind of probation.) Have a nice day.
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 6:18 p.m.
OK, Coach Hoke don't recruit any players unless they are first approved by Chad. He wants defense and you need, what? Uh, you have been trying and you have far more defensive players than offensive ones. You want the best DTs and they are not in a hurry. Great, I'll tell CW. Chad you'll just have to wait like the rest of us but if you know of any DTs that this coaching has overlooked please let them know. Michigan had a bad defense? Wow, how did I miss that?
Chad Williams
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 5:01 p.m.
So what about the d line. Last time i checked the o line was in pretty good shape for the next 2 years. What about the d line, you know the side of the ball where we lost a lot of games. The reason why RR was fired and Hoke was hired. Lets jus do this, name two DT besides Martin and Campbell and they can be a 2011 or 2012 recruit as well as a current player. Keep in mind Martin is a senior and Campbell is a Junior. There is nothing wrong with any of the 19 recruits that we currently have verbals from but I simply dont agree with the method of just getting players that dont solve the issue. The DL is the most important part of any defense(The Lions for example) and its being totally ignored and thats the weakness of the D now.
DonAZ
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 1:06 p.m.
I for one am very upset. 6'5" and 302 pounds? One guy? Why, under a different offensive philosophy we could get two out of that -- two 3'3" 151 pounders! Some lament the size being built up ... to that I say fast does not equal small. Take one look at Alabama's roster. We are watching the birth of something special here, ladies and gentleman.
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 12:30 p.m.
Congrats to Coach Hoke and his staff. Recruiting like this takes time and energy and it appears these coaches know how to go get what Michigan needs. If ANYONE would have posted that this new staff would be this successful recruiting in the first 6 months on the job, we would have asked for a blood sample. ERMG let the sleeping dogs lie. Some of them, I suspect, have already moved on with new, more positive monikers so they can fit in here. For those who will respond that Coach Hoke hasn't done anything yet on the field my answer is he is doing what he can, where he can and taking care of his and our future interests. TiM Go Blue!
David Vande Bunte
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 12:14 p.m.
Not really surprised, we already knew that Kalis was leaning towards Michigan. Still, even when it isn't really a huge surprise, its always nice to take recruits away from O-Lie-o State. And Buckeyes, thank you sooooooo much for grabbing Terrelle Pryor!
EightySeven
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 10:13 a.m.
Hell by this time the past 3 years RR would would have have had as many verbal's as well. He would have 7-8 guys 5'-6" & 165lbs lined up ready to play, along w/ a few lineman all under 260 lbs. Speedy and quick is how we will beat the non-conference opponents. Well the good news there are a few of these players still hanging around the program.
truebluefan
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 3:49 a.m.
I'm not going to argue about the importance of ST. They are important. A good or bad ST play can turn momentum in a game. I don't recall if Lloyd ever had a backup punter. I am guessing that he did not.
Blu n Tpa
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 12:11 p.m.
tbf Thanks for the feedback. I defer to you that I may have missed any of your negative comments regarding the Michigan defense over the last couple of years. Although FG attempts were the biggest visual miscues last year, kick and punt return teams were pitiful most of the times and there is absolutely no excuse for not having a backup punter ready to play by the 12 game of the year. Especially since you left your starter at home for cause. Relying on your QBs to punt vs tsio when you have a former all state punter sitting on the bench is sending a message to everyone that you just don't think special teams is that important. The VaTech coach understands how ST can dictate the flow of a game and I agree wholeheartedly. STs is a (the?) measuring stick of how well a team is coached. If they are solid, there a great chance that the rest of the team is prepared also. Just my opinion. TiM Go Blue!
truebluefan
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 1:50 a.m.
Blu - I think you're correct. It's advantageous if your linemen can zone block AND drive block well. In other words, incorporating both spread and downhill power into an offense creates nightmares for opposing defenses. So, I will be extremely impressed if Hoke/Borges are able to field an offense this season that is "multiple" like that. BTW, I have commented several times in the past about the poor defense under RR. He made mistakes on defense that cost him his job. It's that simple. Special teams last season outside of FG kicking was not bad.
Blu n Tpa
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:01 p.m.
tbf I think you may have a point. If these players would have been COACHED to play any system vs Big Ten opponets that gave them a chance to win it would have been great. Unfortunately,they weren't but now those still here will be. For that I am truly grateful, as you should. Also, please give Coach Borges a little credit and stop telling him, and everybody else for that matter, how to run HIS offense. It's their team now. Your guy couldn't get it done by any measure so lets move on. (For the record, how come you never wrote this much about how bad the defense was or how come special teams got worse as the year went on?) Balance would give you a better perspective. Just a thought. TiM Go Blue!
truebluefan
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 3:27 p.m.
Q. Washington (6'3", 315 lb), M. Schofield (6'7", 272 lb), T. Lewan (6'7", 272 lb), W. Campbell (6'5", 317 lb), R. Ash (6'4", 263 lb), C. Pace (6'3", 262 lb), Chris Bryant (6'5", 330 lb). Plus a bunch more in the 230 lb to 260 lb range. Lewan went from 272 lb to 295 lb in his redshirt year. Omameh was 236 lb out of HS and is now over 300 lb. Just a few examples for you of guys recruited and developed under Rodriguez. Do you expect all high school linemen to be 280 lb plus? If so, I've got some nice property north of the Arctic Circle I want you to take a look at. Any kid we recruit shouldn't require a redshirt year to "bulk up"? By the way, people around here are confusing bulk and system. The issue is not B1G "bulk" or a perceived lack thereof. All these guys were recruited and developed in a zone blocking system, not drive blocking (i.e. MANBALL). The issue is technique (zone vs drive blocking). We're going to have problems moving the football on offense if Borges forces a downhill running and drive blocking offense on our guys this year. Stick with zone blocking and spread concepts and we'll be fine.
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 9:29 a.m.
Why is it that the MCC never posts when there's good recruiting news? Lorraine? Theo? Tater? tbf? Good Night and Good Luck
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 7:34 p.m.
tbf wrote "Don't kid yourself, there were plenty of opportunities [to praise the WCIMFH]" Really? Which of the following is praisworthy? *6-18 in the Big Ten *0-12 against Big Ten teams with winning records *1-13 against MSU/OSU/PSU/Iowa/Wisky *Never finished higher than tied for 7th in the Big Ten *2-11 against teams that were in the Top 25 at the time the game was played *Winless against teams that finished the season in the Top 25. *Three straight seasons not in the Top 25 (had not happened since 1965, '66, and '67) *From 24th in the nation in defense in 2007 (Carr's last year), to 67th in 2008, to 84th in 2009, to 110/120 teams in 2010 *A mediocre offense against quality teams (e.g., EMU scored more points against OSU in 2010 than we did). *Worst bowl loss in Michigan history *1st NCAA probation in Michigan history Just let me know which of the above YOU find praiseworthy. Good Night and Good Luck
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 1:42 a.m.
@tbf: missed your post. My bad. Appears you're departing from the dark side. Now if you could only bring Lorraine with you! Good Night and Good Luck
truebluefan
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 3:10 p.m.
Five posts up. Go ahead, take a look. I give credit when it's due. Refreshing, isn't it? Unfortunately the 'Ghost' and others rarely if ever did as such with the previous regime. Don't kid yourself, there were plenty of opportunities.
riverraisin
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 12:33 a.m.
Ahhh, how quickly momentum is shifting in this rivalry. I see the 1990's in our future. Only better! Go Blue!!!!
dzucker
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 1:20 a.m.
i hope that momentum translates to victories on the field. Lets a get a win before we start talking about how we are turning the momentum. go blue!!
missionbrazil
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 12:06 a.m.
Dear tOSU fans, start getting used to losing to UM ... first in the recruiting wars and then on the field. Make no mistake, you WILL be losing to us on the field soon, and it will last quite awhile.
EightySeven
Sun, Jul 10, 2011 : 9:45 p.m.
Well done!! Coach Hoke and his staff are starting to build back up the sound foundation which is needed in the ever physical Big 10
Keith
Sun, Jul 10, 2011 : 9:06 p.m.
It is ice to see a recruiting class with many cheeries on top...Go Blue!
truebluefan
Sun, Jul 10, 2011 : 9:05 p.m.
An absolutely huge get for Hoke and staff. I think this is the first time Michigan has nabbed the top player in Ohio since Woodson. He is one rank below the lowest 5-star on Rivals (19th overall in the country) and could very well be a 5-star by signing day. I am impressed.
Edward R Murrow's Ghost
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 4:05 a.m.
New definition of bashing the WCiMFH: asking questions about his recruits. Gee. The answer must not be one that casts the WCiMFH in a good light? Good Night and Good Luck
truebluefan
Wed, Jul 13, 2011 : 3:41 a.m.
I don't know, Blu. You tell us. Why are you trying to bring negativity to a positive thread for the sake of bashing Rich?
Blu n Tpa
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 11:56 a.m.
And what happened to JT? Where is he?
truebluefan
Tue, Jul 12, 2011 : 1:42 a.m.
Correct again, thank you scott! I didn't know Rich pulled the top Ohio player.
scott
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 4:27 p.m.
Justin Turner was the #1 player in ohio 2 years ago...
truebluefan
Mon, Jul 11, 2011 : 1:01 a.m.
You are correct. Still, it's very rare for Michigan to take Ohio's top recruit. That guy typically goes to OSU. Sign of the times. Props to Hoke.
goldenblue
Sun, Jul 10, 2011 : 11:55 p.m.
I think Prescott Burgess was a no.1 get from ohio
Terry Star21
Sun, Jul 10, 2011 : 8:40 p.m.
This is Fantastic news for Michigan Football.....it doesn't really matter where this student/athlete comes from, he is now Michigan and his timing (2012) is perfect - he could have an immediate impact for GoBlue ! My mind is thinking....(Jake Long) ? Great time to be a Michigan Football Faithful...... MgoBlueForTiM
81wolverine
Sun, Jul 10, 2011 : 8:09 p.m.
This is great news for Michigan. Kyle is a superb offensive lineman who could provide depth right away. He made the right decision. The OSU message boards and blogs are blowing up over this - many negative, hateful comments directed at Kyle. This is inexcusable behavior, but it's what we've come to expect from TSIO's fanbase. Hopefully, Kyle will not look back and have a great career for the Maize and Blue.
scott
Sun, Jul 10, 2011 : 7:49 p.m.
Please remove ohio state recruit from the title, he's a michigan commit now and ohio state decommit would be the only other appropriate title.
Mick
Sun, Jul 10, 2011 : 7:44 p.m.
Welcome to the good guys Kyle, you have made a great decision for your future! I project him to be a guard when it is all said and done, this is a big time pick up for Hoke and crew. Being able to recruit and compel young men to commit so quickly and easily (seemingly) can only translate to being compelling as a coaching staff on the field. I can't wait for the future of U-M Football, good times they are a comin'! Go Blue for TiM!!!