Blueman Rick

Mon, Jan 3, 2011 : 11:52 p.m.

Holmes: RR may have three years left on his contract but he won't be @ Michigan coaching. Wake up. They'll buy him out. The loss of alumni $ and prestige is far greater than the 2.5 mil the university will have to cough up to get rid of him. It's beyond me why can't you understand this simple solution.

Holmes1

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 9:59 p.m.

It sure has! WHO's the coach again?

missionbrazil

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 8:08 p.m.

Holmes "an AD that consistently backs him" What university AD are you talking about, because that hasn't been happening at UM? I suspect that by the end of this week you will be one of the commenters we won't be seeing here anymore.

Holmes1

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 6:34 p.m.

Actually, it took Brandon TEN YEARS to scrap what he acknowledged was ketchup-flavored cardboard at Domino's. And Brandon himself has contributed millions to the UM, so he is a donor, too. Other than Martin's Folly, how many empty seats have you seen at the Big House? And Brandon's had nearly a year to do what he should have done from the get-go, as he knows better than any of us all the nonsense that occurred with RichRod. Given his failure at UM and track record at Domino's (and before that as a junk mailer), you can project that it'll take him seven years (and a new contract!) to do what he should have done nearly a year ago. If your eggs are cracked, that means you'll NEVER get chickens -- but RichRod forever! Isn't that like shooting yourself in the foot? And confusion? RichRod is STILL UM football coach and has three years left in his contract.

HailState

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 3:08 p.m.

Everyone bashing Denard?? Before this game every post I read talked about how Denard this and Shoelace that.I agree that yall need to make some changes, but everything that yall are complaining about today are the things that would crush us yesterday. Our defensive players said alot of the problem was that on both sides of the ball Michigan was very predictable.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 12:22 p.m.

Mookie In 3 years, the team is 2 games below where it finished after the 2007 season. How in the world is that progress? You can't use the 2008 season as the benchmark to measure progress. Producing the worst season in modern Michigan football history should have been enough to terminate him right then. It's not what you subsequently use as your yard stick. I'd also argue that the team is actually worse this year than last year. The blowout losses in 2010 are much worse than the losses last year.

beanie wells

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 8:10 a.m.

@mookienation: can you please give your definition of the word "substantial"? i think we may differ on what that word actually means.

Sean T.

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 7:03 a.m.

Mookienation, Denard is not a QB. I've watched better passers at Ford Field this year and they are high School QB's. His release is slow, he lacks arm-strength and his accuracy is abysmal beyond 15 yards. I haven't seen him complete a pass between defenders or thread the needle. But I have seen him pass to wide open guys and I'm sure you know that any one of us on this thread can do that. RR cannot have success without special athletes and that means every blue moon he may have a good year, but it shows his coaching is poor and inadequate.

GettingBluer

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 6:46 a.m.

I almost forgot. Good thing for Michigan that MSU had 6 starters hospitalized with the flu and on iv's. Otherwise, this game could have been a real blow-out (triple digits). /

GettingBluer

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 6:22 a.m.

UofM hasn't been selling out its season tickets reserved for professors and physicians. They've been offered to lower ranking employees the last couple of years. Also, Michigan returned a bunch of unsold Gator Bowl tickets. Sounds like Michigan fans are voting with their wallets for an "improved recipe" (final product).

Dustin

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 2:49 a.m.

Rich Fraud you will not be missed. I can not see how it is possible for a rational AD to overlook your entire embarresment of Michigan football. I will not celebrate anything UofM involved until RR is fired. It is what RR has earned it is what RR deserves.

mookienation

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 2:04 a.m.

He's improved every year. Yes, we're still very flawed, but the improvements from year to year are actually substantial. These last three games have been embarrassing. The offense needs to improve and the defense REALLY needs to improve. But I seriously think we're a few tweaks away from being a really good team. If Denard's passing skills improve during the next eight months our offense has the potential to be Oregon-like next season. And I have a hard time believing that our defense won't improve. How can't they?

GoblueinNE_PA

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 1:53 a.m.

@Mookienation Why? Why would you want RichRod back? What has he done to deserve another year? Those are all serious questions. I'll wait for your answers.

3 And Out

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 1:50 a.m.

mookie "Deserves got nuthin to do with it"

3 And Out

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 1:48 a.m.

Harbaugh when asked about new SF 49ers GM: He apparently does not have a relationship with Trent Baalke, the 49ers' personnel chief who is expected to be named general manager. "I know who he is," Harbaugh said. "I've seen him around." Not exactly a warm bond and relationship there....

mookienation

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 1:35 a.m.

Rich Rodriguez deserves another year. Michigan fans are so reactionary. He's a good coach and he'll eventually have us back to an elite status. I won't be upset if we hire Harbaugh but I really think Rich deserves one more year.

beanie wells

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 1:21 a.m.

three more years! three more years! sorry... bear with me. just trying to get in Holmes1's mindset. it's not easy. my brain's not as big as his. 'Domino's "pizza" customers have nothing to do with the "product" they're "served."' really? didn't domino's just change their recipe because the customers voted with their wallets. sales dropped, thus forcing dominos execs to do something. true, the regular fans don't have as much say as the donars (sic). but, donors are fans too. that's one of the reasons they donate. now, i am no donor, but let me think as one... hmmm, i gave (or regularly give) big bundles of cash to the football program and the university. i have very expensive but exceptionally located seats in the big house. hmmm, am i happy with the state of the program right now? hmmm, should i continue donating? now, i'm not clairvoyant like you say GoblueinNE_PA claims he is, BUT i can extrapolate on the trends of the fans and imagine that it extends at least in part to the donors (who are - as stated above - also fans). in this scenario, donations is the equivalent of sales. so, my (educated) guess is that donations have or are threatening to drop. a prudent CEO might change the recipe at this point... espcially one with a track record of doing so. so, are we really counting our chickens before they hatch? maybe. but those eggs certainly appear to be cracking...

johnnya2

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 12:44 a.m.

@Robrt Granville "How can you possibly imagine a winning season with a new coach. None of the coaches being discussed run the spread or the 3-3-5. It would be several more years of transition." Because GOOD coaches coach to the talent they have, not for the talent they wish they had. Why would running a 3-3-5 AGAIN be a good thing? If any coach comees in here saying he wants to run that system, he should be institutionalized. It is a FAILURE on every count. He took the weakest section of the defense and had FIVE of them on the field. Teaching people offense is not as hard as Rich Rod has tried to convince people it is. Lloyd Carr ran a version of the spread in his last game as coach. He had less than a month to prepare his team for it. Guess what happened? Thats right the last bowl win ever at UM. This "learn the system" crap is more people thinking systems win over players The new coach will bring in better players, AND will not put the team on probation Once a new coach comes in and has the same record as Rich Rod, the Kool Aid crowd will say he didn't improve the team, OR the even more ridiculous "he won with Rich Rods players". I have absolutely ZERO respect for Rich Rod. I do not think he is a "nice" or "decent" man. I think he is convicted cheater. If it were my decision he would have been terminated IMMEDIATELY upon the FIVE major infractions. No questions asked, no buy out, no nothing. Let his sue me for it. His lawyeres are so stupid they didnt even know to get the so-called promises from WVU in writing, so I am sure a first year law student at UM would blow this clown out of the water. I can not and will not support the athletic department financially as long as Rich Rod is part of it. That would include a 13-0 season.

Dennis

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 12:34 a.m.

PU! UGLY! Les....... calling Mr. Miles, please come home!

BornInA2

Sun, Jan 2, 2011 : 12:06 a.m.

Just got done watching on the DVR. It was sunny today in Seattle and I guessed that I'd feel better going for a hike than watching the game live. 1. So glad we spent the last four weeks "focusing on fundamentals". Apparently kicking 35 yard field goals and players knowing when they are supposed to be on the field are reserved for "advanced skills". 2. I don't know what offense Craig James was watching, but what I saw was our typical strong first drive, followed by seven points for the rest of the game including a big fat *zero* in the second half. 3. No one pointed it out, but DRob seemed to be on a tight leash today as far as running went- 46 yards on the first drive and then 39 for the rest of the game? That wasn't just the MSU defense, it was offensive play calling. 4. We still can't tackle. Maybe RR teaches that in year four? 5. We still get gassed in the first half. Under which rock are the Barwis Koolaiders hiding lately? 6. Miss State was 8-5 this year, just one more win that our 7-5. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking there are any more than their #21 ranking. Anyone else remember when beating #21 was an assumption around here? 7. Even though I skipped through the ads and halftime, I still feel like I wasted two hours of my life watching a bunch of under-coached kids try their best only to fail big-time again. Another tough Jan 1 for the Big 10+2, but I don't care all that much about the bowl games. I thought the Big 10 season was much more fun when it was round-robin and the two most important things for Michigan were beating OSU and winning the Big 10 title. Hopefully we all get more to cheer about next year.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 11:03 p.m.

To Holmes1: You, sir, are no TheoCCXII. Hey Holmes -1, RR deserved just a $1 buyout but you can chip in the rest :) You just cannot stand how accurate we are in forecasting RR's demise. Now go and feed Les more grass and this wvtroll is more interesting than your aimless ramblings. Happy New Year and wvtroll, welcome to this forum.

GoBucks

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 10:21 p.m.

UM didn't do anything unusual for a Big Ten team at the bowl game. Had Tate Forcier been able to play, UM would have at least been more competitive, but putting all chips on Denard Robinson was RR's error in judgement during this season. Thank God for Iowa and Illinois, without their wins the Big Ten would have suffered a total wipeout. I don't expect the Bucks to win.

GettingBluer

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:50 p.m.

Gary Acree wrote "Has anyone thought about RR and the Pittsburg opening? Pitt might be a good fit." I'm pretty sure RR would think this would be beneath him, but I think he could really turn around EMU. He really needs a place that is happy to have one 8-4 season every 3-4 years.

Jared

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:47 p.m.

As a person who actually lives out here in the Bay Area of California, Big rumors going around saying that unless JH decides to be a Stanford Lifer, he will be leaving. Some think that he'll go to the 49er's which I don't buy cause they have Management issues. *Seeking a GM and whatnot* And then the others, who say he'll return to Michigan. Either way, RR should be fired, and there should be a new coach. At this point, I don't think you could get much worse if we don't land JH.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:41 p.m.

Holmes1 I never made the claim to know DB's mind, I simply stated that what you claimed to be the case is not true, i.e., "an AD that consistently backs him". Perhaps you are the one that needs a course in reading comprehension. If anyone is claiming to be clairvoyant, that would be you. I see you claim that I'm "ignoring all the facts" about DB. What facts are you referring to? I see nothing in your posts; no facts of any kind. All I see is some bluster. In fact, I asked you for some facts to back up your reason for thinking RichRod would return, but you provided none. I'm still waiting.

Jim Pryce

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:38 p.m.

Time for Goober to go back to the filling station in Mayberry ( oops can't go back there either as they're not happy with the way you screwed them over) How after 3 years can a defense not know where to line up? Please hire someone new to run the football program

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:38 p.m.

"Actually, reading your posts, one after the other, you appear to make no sense." I've stated that again and again: The sense is that of the AD, which I'm sorry you don't understand, which is why YOU, not I, posts here again and again. Angry? No. I suggested trying to get a life beyond UM football, which, for years (not just RR), has been failing the Ann Arbor community. AND isn't much of a life, anyway. Guess you, like the other commenters, don't carefully read other posts. What UM needs is not only new football coach but athletic director, president, and regents. I am very sorry that you and other commenters do not understand that, which demonstrates your UTTER ignorance about how the UM "works," which is to say doesn't. NONE of these issues will be resolved any time soon! Count on it! Again, sorry you don't understand that, as you can't, as you're clueless.

IoniaDawg

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:28 p.m.

I was hoping Rich Rod would be successful but I have seen enough. Welcome Mr Harbaugh, Brady Hoke or Chris Peterson. Time to get Michigan back on the throne. Hey Rich, the Pitt job just opened up. Good luck, sorry it didn't work out.

Jaysham

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:22 p.m.

Holmes 1 and Robert Granville must be Theo and Tater trying to be incognito. I think the Kool-Aid has now turned into Nyquil for the Rich Rod lovers cause now the ones defending him are just completely spaced out. For real people he is finished at UofM and for many good reasons. It has been nothing but transfers, poor recruiting, NCAA violations, trying to run a 3-3-5 in the Big 10, lawsuits, 1-11 VS the Top 25, no improvement week after week, back yard pick up offense, etc. Oh by the way where have these super elite freakish fast and chiseled athletes that Barwis transforms recruits into, all I have seen is a rash of injuries in the past 3 seasons. Every single game in the past 3 years has been has been so unorganized and who can forget the sideline melt down versus OSU in the shoe in 08. Face it this guy is a failure and Dave Brandon knows so and he will do whats best for UofM and fire him.

Gary Acree

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:22 p.m.

Has anyone thought about RR and the Pittsburg opening? Pitt might be a good fit.

breadman

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:13 p.m.

DonAZ! I loved your poem!! The only problem is you left out the part he might be Ineligiable to work a Wal-Mart. Didn't get is home work done!!!

InsideTheHall

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:09 p.m.

The Michigan nightmare ended today. Next week we begin anew and escape from the dark age of M football. Dave Brandon has an easy decision and the backing of the vast vast majority of the M base despite what football whore Craig James may say.

GettingBluer

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:08 p.m.

Robert Granville wrote "The only way we have a winning season next year is if we keep rich rod." OK, you like him? He's yours. Really. Bring proof of insurance Tuesday morning and DB will sign over the title to him and give you two sets of keys. Remember all deals are final and you are not allowed to operate him in the state of Michigan. Feel free to put him on your (out of state) mantle, dust him occasionally, polishing is optional. Seriously, he is LESS likely to have a winning season next year. The non-conference portion of the schedule will likely knock him off in a few of the games (SDSU, ND, etc.).

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 9:04 p.m.

@GoblueinNE_PA Wow! See my response to D21, which covers yours, which strays completely off mark. YOU, not David Brandon, knows what he thinks, despite everything he's stated, not to mention done, the past year! ONLY YOU knows what Mr. Brandon thinks. Amazing! WHERE did you get such incredible insight?

GoblueinNE_PA

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:57 p.m.

Holmes1 So, in other words, you got nothing. Got it. Thanks. If you think that the buyout will stop them from getting rid of him then you really don't know much about Michigan.

LSUWolverine

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:49 p.m.

@azwolverine, yes, methinks that those three are going to have an awful lot of planning to do to find some excuses for Rich Rod. I think that the next one that they are going to use is probably going to be something like "well, with his coaching fate hanging over his head, there was no way that RR could possibly have fully prepared for the game." I think that's the one that they are going to settle on.

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:45 p.m.

$1?!!! Try coughing up the $2.5 million it'll take to buy Diamond RichRod out! For all of you commenters yammering for RR to be removed, pony up! Put your money where your mouths are! Until then, enjoy the ketchup-flavored cardboard David Brandon serves you. You DO love it, don't you? Or, even more incredibly, get a life: Try doing something else fall Saturdays! Ever thought of that? Nah, guess not!

wvtroll

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:45 p.m.

UM has one more battle to fight - RR against UM in court when he tries to make UM pay for the full buyout. I joined this forum to follow the RR circus. I've mentioned more than once how he operated at WVU and how he hasn't changed at UM. Not saying "I told you so", but I might have hinted. I'm a true troll here. I respect what UM has done in the past, but don't think much of the past 3 years. I'm not a dedicated fan of UM, but enjoy watching them when they play "real" football. Do yourself a favor and get over this hatred of MSU. Take care of your own team and the rest will fall in line. I'll miss all of you if RR is gone next week, but I'll gladly remove myself from this forum if that happens. I hope, whatever happens next year, you all have a great season. No member of a football team should have to suffer through such incompetence by a coach.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:42 p.m.

Holmes1=Theo???? Holmes1, what is your rationale for keeping RichRod. Don't spout "Dream On" or "That's what Brandon says" (which isn't true by the way). Nope, give your reason why RichRod should stay. I promise I'll listen.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:38 p.m.

Advice to DRob: Lose those heavy dreadlocks and you shall be more fleet that way. Oh, embrace and heed your new coach, Jim Harbaugh, and he shall lead you all to the promised land.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:31 p.m.

Brandon, If you keep rr around another year, you can forget about getting my oh-so generous donation of $1.00 this year.

Rich Rods worst enemy

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:29 p.m.

maybe we could do a package deal==2 loser ex W.V. Coaches for the price of 1 --Make that Rich Rod And the basketball coach Belein and bring in some MICHIGAN men to get the job straightened out--got to go now need more kool aid

BigWolverine13

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:10 p.m.

Run the bum out of town!

townie54

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:09 p.m.

mr Sallberg you can count on it

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:08 p.m.

Like the press conferences before, and before, and before. Dream on, townie! Dream on! All you're going to get is goose egg! Three more years!

MjC

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:08 p.m.

@bernie 41 states "The SEC makes the Big Ten look like a junior high school league." And you really believe it's the Big 10 fans have the elitist attitude?

townie54

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:04 p.m.

Holmes come back here and spout this after the press conference soon to come

Blueman Rick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 8:02 p.m.

"The only way we have a winning season next year is if we keep rich rod." LOL.

Jon Saalberg

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:59 p.m.

Wow. Is it possible that a profound drop in alumni donations is coming? Could be, if UM doesn't figure out a way to put forward a football team that is not the laughing stock of Division 1 football.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:59 p.m.

Hey Skunk: Comparing RR with Bo is insulting. Bo may have lost some bowl games but he NEVER got "smacked" like this. I was at the 78 Rose Bowl when we lost to Warren Moon and Washington 27-20. UM was down 20-0 at half but we rallied in the 2nd half. On the tying drive, Leach was intercepted @ the Wash. 7 yd. line w/ :44 left in the game. Yeah, we lost. But we were proud of Bo and the team. They showed real character. Something that has been sorely lacking in our team for the past three years.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:55 p.m.

The RR defenders are using the ostrich defense but with a new twist (heads into the quicksand not the sand). Hope ya all will be able to go cold turkey without your idol (rr) at the helm.

riverraisin

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:51 p.m.

They say that people learn from their mistakes.... In that case, shouldn't RR have been paying tuition to the university for the last three years?

Robert

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:51 p.m.

@Johnnya2 How can you possibly imagine a winning season with a new coach. None of the coaches being discussed run the spread or the 3-3-5. It would be several more years of transition. The only way we have a winning season next year is if we keep rich rod.

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:50 p.m.

Says who, townie54? NOT David Brandon! (See interview at Freep.com) See that temple at Main and Stadium? The donars built that! THAT's what they want! Dream on!

Sallyxyz

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:48 p.m.

Michigan set some records today: The 52 points allowed by Michigan were the most by the Wolverines in a bowl game in school history. Their 38 point margin of defeat also set a school record. Michigan allowed 34 or more points for the eighth time in the last nine games. Great job, RR.

bernie41

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:47 p.m.

heartbreak, Good point about us expecting more from our program. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I just find it repulsive that some folks look down their noses at other conferences, thinking that the Big 10 is a better brand of football. There are great programs in virtually every conference. These teams have great coaches and ethical programs that should be the places we look for our coaches down the road. Thanks for your comment.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:45 p.m.

Oh, and where are all the RR defenders now? Not going to stand by your man?

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:43 p.m.

Sallyxyz, It may be that RR knows he is to be fired no matter what prior to the game or after it and you are right when u said, "Finally an honest answer from RR".

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:42 p.m.

How 'bout his contract, $2.5 million buyout clause, and AD who consistently backs him and repeats his excuses? THOSE don't count for anything? Dream on!

Blueman Rick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:42 p.m.

No surprise that we lost but I didn't expect the absolute thrashing we got from Miss State. Unbelievably pathetic. An understatement to say it was embarrassing. No one can seriously mount a convincing argument that this team can improve under RR. Three years of disorganized, undisciplined and technically deficient play says it all. Can't say I've been very proud of the team since the RR era began. Many of us have been posting for the end of RR's tenure since last year. Thankfully this abomination of U of M football will come to its long awaited conclusion on Monday when RR is fired. Harbaugh. A new era begins. Tradition, Integrity, Leadership.

johnnya2

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:41 p.m.

If they keep Rich Rod, if you look at next years schedule here is what you will see. Non Conference 2-2 MAYBE 3-1 I think ND has improved from where they were when UM played them, and Brian Kelly will have a whole season under his belt. He also had a bowl win in season ONE. SDSU is the one where it could be interesting. I am not convinced UM will beat Brady Hokes boys As far as the Big Ten season, the outcomes look worse to me: They will likely start out 2-0 with wins over Minnesota (good bet) and Northwestern (maybe) Then comes the Spartans (pretty much a loss). They will then beat Purdue at home, then comes a four game losing streak. I see no chance against Nebraska and OSU. Iowa and Illinois (with their QB a year better) on the road will be likely losses. That comes to 5-7 for the season and 3-5 in the Big Ten. With a coaching change I would say 7-5 is possible, with one more win in the Big Ten and one more in non-conference. I don't care who they hire, as long as RR is no longer he coach. He is a convicted cheater. A known liar, and the worst coach in Michigan history. I am sure he will be happy in Muncie Indiana. Beating MAC schools could do him some good.

townie54

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:39 p.m.

Holmes 1,no most regular fans have no control over who's coach but you can bet your bottom dollar the big money donaters to the program have let their feelings be known.Those feelings are not for status quo

Sallyxyz

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:37 p.m.

"Michigan suffers school's worst bowl loss to Mississippi State in Gator Bowl" (espn.com) With this bowl game, UM under RR is 15-22 and 1-11 against ranked teams. Michigan lost six of its final eight games. "Asked what case he will make to save his job, Rodriguez said 'None.'" There isn't a case to be made. Finally an honest answer from RR.

HailState

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:36 p.m.

So any chance I get yalls opinion on State?? Honestly I was nervous about the game today. Denard seemed like he could be a true heisman candidate if he had some help.

blueinwestpenn

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:32 p.m.

Burn it down. I can't wait until Tuesday.

heartbreakM

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:30 p.m.

@bernie: Oh come on, you can't get all over the fans for expecting more. It's all about matchups. Other than Michigan and MSU, every one of these B10/11 teams competed against the SEC, and Michigan would not have stopped anybody in the country, SEC or not. But you can't argue about PSU--they competed well and lost a close game that they could have won. Same with Northwestern (who really has no defense at all and an injured all B10 QB). MSU? Who knows--but they played well all year. I don't know if the B10 is good or not--I tend to think not so much at this point, but let's not be critical for us thinking that we should be better.

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:30 p.m.

Cluck, cluck, cluck! Don't count your chickens before they're hatched!

missionbrazil

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:29 p.m.

heartbreak "And it's funny when any stupid announcer like Craig James says that RR is a good coach." Hey come on, give Craig James some credit. Today in the broadcast he recognized that RR had 1/2 the team doing well (debatable) and the other 2/3 needed work (the D & special teams) :)

GettingBluer

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:25 p.m.

One thing that nobody has been mentioning about RR's poor performance in three years at Michigan is that this, in a test against an SEC team (where we don't have the Big Ten argument about slower and bigger players), a like-manned (size and speed) team just blew out UofM. RR packing party on Tuesday...be there.

heartbreakM

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:21 p.m.

The reasons that people give to keep RR is because of potential rather than results. Fine. But each year, the team has gotten worse from start to end of year, lost if not blown out by any ranked team, and basically today's performance is the worst ever performance by any Michigan team in any bowl game. And you can't tell me that we played the best team we ever played. Those RESULTS seal the fate. Potential means nothing. And it's funny when any stupid announcer like Craig James says that RR is a good coach. Based on what? Based on losing to any good team at a tradition and resource rich school like Michigan for 3 straight years?

bernie41

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:21 p.m.

I find it unblievable that some of the UM fans still believe the Big Ten is the top tier of NCAA football. You are living in a fantasy world that ended more than 10 years ago. "Storied programs"....what a joke. Look at the bowl games today and the list of national champions for the past ten years. The SEC makes the Big Ten look like a junior high school league. The elitist attitude expressed by a few of you is incredible.

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:20 p.m.

But the fans have NOTHING to do with anything, just as Domino's "pizza" customers have nothing to do with the "product" they're "served." Chickens are clucking all over the place here! Guess who UM's football coach will be next year! WHO is the coach now? And why?

PortageLkBlu

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:13 p.m.

Thank you ghost you picked up on the foolishness of trying to predict what 50% of the fans want and the other 50% want.

phil

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:04 p.m.

Tired of the beatings, tired of the excuses-good coaches get/make good players-not make excuses like blaming the previous coach, having too many freshmen (have you recruited for 3 yrs?)-it's time to put Michigan football back in the hands of a Michigan man who understands the program, the pride of running a clean program & competing-I'm tired of turning off games at halftime...

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:04 p.m.

Ghost, Perhaps Oliver Luck wishes he could trade places with David Brandon now. Thanks for posting the WVA link.

phil

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:03 p.m.

Tired of the beatings, tired of the excuses-good coaches get/make good players-not make excuses like blaming the previous coach, having too many freshmen (have you recruited for 3 yrs?)-it's time to put Michigan football back in the hands of a Michigan man who understands the program, the pride of running a clean program & competing-I'm tired of turning off games at halftime...

Holmes1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:02 p.m.

Did most of you commenters miss the last line of Mr. Bigelow's article? "For Rodriguez and Brandon, now comes the hard part." Don't count your chickens before they're hatched! Harbaugh is Stanford, not Michigan, coach, as he stated in ESPN interview. David Brandon is junk-mail and junk-food peddler who for A DECADE delivered, what he later acknowledged, was ketchup-flavored cardboard as "pizza" and has REPEATEDLY REFUSED to can a coach who REPEATEDLY brings disgrace to Mr. Brandon's alma mater, as if DB really cared. Does ANYONE remember who Mr. Bigelow thinks should be UM's football coach the coming year? AND why? AND Mr. Brandon's comments on the matter? Massive disappointment looms!

townie54

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 7:01 p.m.

Will they follow their KING to Maryland?

blueinwestpenn

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:59 p.m.

Fred you are right on. We are the leaders and best. I totally trust Brandon. If Brandon thinks some one else is better, I will defer to the judgement of our A-D, who cannot be more of a Michigan Man than he is... hiring is not easy. It is really really high pressure. our guy Dave B has hired some geniouses over the course of his career. I trust that his experiences in doing so will guide him in this careful choice. go blue, and happy new year.

heartbreakM

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:58 p.m.

What good offense? I did not see any good offense out there today. Maybe for a drive or 2, but that offense was horrible. But not really a whole lot different than against the other MSU, Iowa, OSU, PSU. The only good offense I saw in the last 8 games was against Illinois and that was just a fluky type of thing. And our win was sealed by a QB who was not even at the game today. At one point, in first half, we were outpossessed about 20 mins to 8. That is HORRIBLE offense. RR is total failure and will no doubt be gone. Question now of who takes over if JH does not. But whoever it is will now have true rebuilding. RR just looked lost and did not 'earn his wings'.

DonAZ

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:57 p.m.

Rodriguez back for another year = wasted year. It simply will not get better. If won't. Brian Kelly at ND will be *much* better next year. Year two. Read the tea leaves. RR is gone.

PortageLkBlu

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:52 p.m.

We had a great time today, good food, good friends unfortunately not so good game but hey what the heck it's just entertainment sometimes good sometimes bad. I believe there is a chance RR will be back and a chance he'll be coaching at another school. We'll find out soon enough if he stays or goes and don't be crying if he stays a lot of folks like RR. I for one believed this was going to be a tough, hard game for Mich. I want to see RR back at least for next year either way none of us have the say so so let's all wish RR another year at coaching Michigan. Go Blue! Happy New Year!

blueinwestpenn

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:52 p.m.

Am happy to see so many people trying to stay level in the RR debate.

Mick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:50 p.m.

Kool aid drinkers "What has JH done that RR hadn't as the records are similar and 8-5 in the 3rd year" Oops, scratch that comparison. I kept telling you guys to quit saying 8-5, assuming is not a fact.

Sallyxyz

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:49 p.m.

I didn't think things could get worse after these last 3 dismal years of Michigan football, but I was wrong. Today it did. It was much worse, and a continuation of the RR embarrassment that started 3 years ago. Today, the wolverines were outplayed, outclassed, outscored and outcoached on every level. RR is history, and after the Orange Bowl, I expect there will be an announcement from the pizza man. On Tuesday, I certainly hope he not only fires RR, of course with all the platitudes and politically correct gratitudes, but also announces that he has hired Harbaugh. It's been a very long and sad 3 years for Michigan football.

tulsatom

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:49 p.m.

I was a little skeptical of SEC dominance over the Big Ten going into today's games but I'm a believer now. I'm a Big Ten guy by nature but we've got a ways to go to compete with the SEC.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:49 p.m.

mgoblue48348: lol (the projectile vomiting part) This (RR situation) has been too easy to predict and the reason for some kool aid drinkers might be attributed to this normalcy bias syndrome. NORMALCY BIAS: It has severe consequences. When people dont face the facts of an imminent disaster such as financial crisis, RR, or act to protect their loved ones or their assets from danger that might be developing around them, the negative effect that the disaster has on them is much greater. People who face the situation early and start taking measures to alleviate the impact that the disaster has on their loved ones and their assets are more likely to survive the disaster and even, in some cases, benefit from it.

FRED

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:49 p.m.

Judge the man by what he does, not who he is. In three years, RR has done a lot good things outside of football but he is simply over his head at Michigan as far as preparing for big time competition. Brandon needs to do a better job of research for the next football coach. JH may be a sexy choice but better to focus on coaches who can do more with less while stay true to his work ethics - meaning staying humble regardless how successful he becomes. Michigan should not be a dream job - a destination. Rather, a program that can progress and embrace the lyrics of its fight song - Leader and the Best.

Matt

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:47 p.m.

Well, you guys know that I've defended Rodriguez pretty strongly throughout the year. But after today's game, I cannot find a valid reason to retain him as our head coach. It was an absolute travesty. I know he's going to be successful elsewhere, but this really was his chance to shine with a fully healthy team. Instead, his players were outmatched and his schemes easily defended. This is unacceptable at any program at the country, and even moreso when you're one of the highest paid people at your position. I've heard from inside sources that Gary Patterson's agent was contacted by Dave Brandon this week. It's going to be an interesting ride, for sure.

missionbrazil

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:46 p.m.

RR did a Project Monarch on our football program.

blueinwestpenn

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:45 p.m.

What would Bo Schembechler want in 2011??.... I was curious, so through a medium I just talked to him. Listen to this dialogue... Question to Bo: Should we be sad or happy with the gator loss? Answer from Bo: In a sick perverted way, Happy. Let me ask you this --What if we had lost a close battle with Miss State 41-38? What if, gasp, we did the improbable and won the gator? It would have sent us on a course of indecision for another year or so, would it not? Two more years of suffering, then the inevitable ax in 2013. In heaven, I am not at all a Rich hater, because as a person, and as an innovator, he is unquestionably like-able and somewhat gifted, but like some alumni and the regents, I now think it is time for a change. Right now. No more wait and see. Beating Illinois and Purdue in November well, were, in hindsight, psyche jobs on all of us. Even Woody up here wasn't quite sure what to make of the Illinois and Purdue wins. Those ugly wins steadied our nerves in heaven and earth, if only temporarily. You take away those two win-ugly games, a) we are not even in a bowl, and RR would likely be fired already and b)we would have started the season 5-0 finished the season 0-7. See what I am saying? As it turns out we finish 2-6 with the gator loss. Over the span of 3 years, I mean really!? How much more can we take? Where are the recruits and where is the team depth? Wow. The regression of special teams and defense is historic. Meteoric demise. So you see the lopsided gator loss makes this whole next step pretty straightforward. Question: Bo, what do you want in 2011? Answer from BO: this and the following-- Bring in Harbaugh now. Jim just win 6 to 8 reg season games in 2011 and build from there. You have a great schedule next year. Keep Denard and teach him what it takes to play in the NFL (at any position). Denard will learn more from you about the NFL than he will from RR. Remind Denard of Desmond. A wide receiver who won the Super Bowl MVP with two TD runbacks. Jim, keep the key core players. Develop your youth. You can win a championship in a few short years. It can be done that fast, yes it can. We don't need 6 seasons to build a program. We don't need 6 million for a new training equipment. We just need you Jim and your unquestionable drive. We need your recruits, moreover, we need your smart recruits. How about a few all american academic athletes on your team too? From heaven I say this --Come back home Jim! Stick around for 10 years, and leave a big string of Michigan Man replacement coaches in waiting behind you, coaches who themselves become legends. Then, go in the NFL, Jim, and be the best dadgum head coach you can be and kick some serious butt in 2020. And Rich, I wish you well. Rich, go lead a major FBS team (like Miami) that vies for a national championship a couple times in the next decade, because you too can go to a program and have instant success. You too can overcome. This is what I want in 2011. Bo I have a few more questions! The medium tells me he's fading from here view.....

RudeJude

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:44 p.m.

I'm pretty sure the kool-aid drinkers will allege Rodriguez was a victim of Project Monarch, too. The NCAA, The Detroit Free Press, "The Haters," the field goal kickers, the defense, the disenchanted players who left, the other teams in the Big Ten, and soon to be Dave Brandon and Jim Harbaugh, all key conspirators in his downfall. Well played Project Monarch, well played.

tulsatom

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:43 p.m.

When U-M went ahead 7-0 I was hoping this would be a good day for Big Blue but then reality sunk in when the defense couldn't stop MSU at all. When RR is let go in a few days it will be due in large part to the inability to stop anyone on defense. Also, when U-M gets behind, Denard tends to press a little too hard and tries to force throws into traffic even when there are no defenders near him and he could easily make 10 yards running. I am also disappointed in all the dropped passes in key situations by the receivers and why they quit throwing to the tight ends after they had lots of success with them in the first half. Lots of things to be disappointed in. Recruiting will be the key in digging out of this mess.

Jeff Butler

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:35 p.m.

NO IMPROVEMENT = NO JOB! Beyond stupid on defense and it was RR's idea to bring in the 3-3-5. I thought even his staff was smart enough to recognize a 4th and short situation called for something else besides 3 DL's on the line of scrimmage - WOW this is not even to high school standards of coaching. Hang in their BIG BLUE fans cause it is going to take awhile to recover from Lloyd's debacle of recruiting his last two years and RR's lack of recruiting on defense for 3 years!

Greggy_D

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:33 p.m.

"My only consolation is that Michigan State was embarrassed more." Really? Is that how you make yourself feel better about the complete disaster in Jacksonville today?

mgoblue48348

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:33 p.m.

D21 Absolutely.... "The last 8 games Michigan 2-6" I think that says it all, this team is NOT getting better and I don't need or want to know the combined score. I thought that projectile vomiting was saved for last night?

NoBowl4Blue

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:32 p.m.

Now for another segment of "As the bowl turns" Theo, Theo, where art thou Theo? Where hath your king and followers hidden? Have you seen the light? Do you finally hath sight? How cometh you hid? Ashamed I dare say, But hark there is good news today, Your king is dead and a new one cometh to save the day. Oh Theo Oh Theo were art thou Theo?

azwolverine

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:31 p.m.

NE_PA, The Koolaid well will never dry up, but soon their guy won't be coaching at UM anymore no matter what excuses they want to make. They can either jump on board with the new coach, or become 'haters' and 'trolls' themselves (not that any such thing actually ever existed). Hopefully they'll get on board and see that, in the end, we all just wanted what was best for Michigan football and we just realized well before them that RR was not in UM's best interests. When UM is winning, with integrity, they will hopefully celebrate that with the rest of us. If not, RR will land a new gig somewhere and they can follow him there. Hey, the Pitt job just opened up!

ricardo rodriges

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:28 p.m.

No talent at this institution!!!! He can't make miracles not even a new coach

missionbrazil

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:27 p.m.

The Kool-Aiders have about as much fight in them today as our D. But even today's beatdown won't be enough for some. The Kool-Aid Force is strong in some.

jcj

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:27 p.m.

BTW I will not bother looking at the blog mentioned! That would be like reading a book on defense written by RR!

lawrencelaundry

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:26 p.m.

Right about now patterson looks nice if Harbaugh does not come over. Now they have some defense.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:23 p.m.

D21, I wouldn't count on the Koolaid being gone. Just hope over to Mgoblop and you'll see it's a never ending well.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:18 p.m.

The RR kool aid well finally has gone dry. Welcome stray wolvies. GO BLUE! 1,2,3...Hasta La Vista to Senor RR

Mick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:14 p.m.

Hi Ben, looks like you've finally seen the light also, just like NoSUV did earlier. Welcome sir, we ae Mich fans, so we are brothers after all!

Sean T.

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:12 p.m.

Sorry, I meant JH. Still recovering from last night.

Ben

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:11 p.m.

Dear God what a disgrace of a game this was. I don't know what some people saw, but I saw a team who were consistently undersized, unprepared, out classed and out coached in every way. I will cheer for Stanford tomorrow and I will welcome the next coach with open arms, be it Harbaugh, Hoke or a mystery candidate. I would like to see Saban or Petersen also!

GoblueinNE_PA

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:10 p.m.

And the final stop on the RichRod Farewell Tour came to its sad, but inevitable conclusion. Looking forward to next season with a new Head Coach, whether it's Harbaugh or someone else. The best thing that happened today was that it left DB w/o an option to keep RR. While I've been pretty upfront with my bravado over RichRod's dismissal, but there was always this little nagging thought that he might stay if we won today and Harbaugh wasn't hired. Now, there is not doubt that RichRod is finished.

Mick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:08 p.m.

Clap your hands everybody, that was some offense we put up out there today for a few minutes anyway. And then, why then, it was a different kind of offensive!!! Everyone, all at once 1, 2, 3, ADIOS RODRIGOES!!!

missionbrazil

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:07 p.m.

BillMK "I am not a Rodriguez-hater by any means, and I loathe those who are they never gave him a chance, and their objections and grudges were based on prejudices and inconsequentialities." I would like to know where these so-called "RR haters that never gave him a chance" are... I have not seen 1 person on these threads that fit that description. Just because a growing number of people who once supported RR changed their minds thanks to these pitiful last 3 years, doesn't mean that we are RR "haters". The vast majority of people gave RR more than a fair chance, and he let all of them down, plus he let all of the players down, and the university too. I'm sorry but he got paid $ 2.5+ million per year to be the head of the football team and he failed... he knew the deal when he came here... it's all on HIM.

Sean T.

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:06 p.m.

Thank you Ghost, but I doubt many could argue with facts and the "iron fist" the way that you have this season. Az, 3 and out, GoBlueNEPA and a few other sound-minded folks. Let's hope we can get JB or likewise to lead us back to our true character of Leader's & The Best! The Days of RR our behind us.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:04 p.m.

Can anyone photoshop Harbaugh and Brandon together in a UM press conference setting to announce Harbaugh's hiring?

mgoblue48348

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6:03 p.m.

BillMK I was at your table yesterday but today was to much to stomache I am sick of this losing to infearior opponents but not just losing but getting smoked we are not even close. I understand the philosophy of you can't out Ohio State-Ohio State and a spread offense is for real and can win in the Big Ten but you need an equally fierce defense. I would love RR as a Offensive Coordinator but he does not appear to be a good head coach for whatever reason.

XTR

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 6 p.m.

The Koolaide drinkers will be back when the heat subsides a bit just like after the OSU game. They will be back and they will say the same things. lol!

Sean T.

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:57 p.m.

How could MSU be embarrassed more? I believe they lost to the defending National Champs. MSU had a good season but who actually thought they would be Bama, hopefully no one. At least out of desperation, I hoped RR would make it close but we were demolished. How do you think we would ve done against Bama today?

XTR

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:56 p.m.

Where is the "super dooper" offense that was ranked so and so in the nation? Where is the offense? This "super dooper" offense was gone as early as the Mich State game and never appeared against any team with a decent defense. Score a lot of points so and so, this offense is poorly coached like the defense and special teams!

azwolverine

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:55 p.m.

LSU, The trio are trying to get their thoughts together by drinking more Kool-Aid. They're trying to come up with an angle to spin. How about, "Michigan St lost by more!" or, "It's GRobinson's fault!" or "Everyone with any real football knowledge knows that it takes four years to get their system in place!" or "Why don't all of you 'haters' go cheer for another team!" Oh, I'm sure they're comparing notes and getting it together. The only problem is, it's going to be the same old garbage that has been proven wrong (or completely off topic in relation to the poor performance of the team) time and again. RR has never even met their expectations, yet they continue to sip of the Aid.

Mick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:53 p.m.

Hey NoSUV, we gladly except you into our group of thinking. Thank you for finally seeing the light on RR needing to go out. Took you longer than it should have however, just saying

lawrencelaundry

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:53 p.m.

Did u guys see again how many times we had a 3 man front on 4th and inches or 4th an 2 or 3rd and shorts. How ridiculous. This coaching staff just don't make any sense at all.

upman01

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:52 p.m.

This is my first post here and this is my opinion. When Michigan hired RR I thought it was a bad hire because in watching his WV teams they always had talent but seemed to underachieve in big games. I gave him a chance at michigan but what confuses me is when changing systems ussually the defense comes along fast than the offense. I think he has to go for this reason, I agree there are alot of young players on defense but they did not get any better which tells me it's not the kids but the coach. It was sad watching the kids run around out there not knowning where to line up, it looked like michigan was playing there first game of the season. sad situation

ViSHa

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:52 p.m.

@Ghost: someone posted this link on the live chat, wonder if there is any truth to number 5? kind of interesting. http://westvirginia.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=33&tid=140588760&mid=140588760&sid=891&style=2

NoSUVforMe

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:50 p.m.

My only consolation is that Michigan State was embarrassed more.

Charles William

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:48 p.m.

Maybe someone will take a package deal...Rich Rod, Mary Sue,Dave Brandon, and Andrea Fischer Newman?

Sean T.

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:47 p.m.

BillMK, Many of the so-called "haters" have been stating the same reasons as the latter part of your post. Actually, many of the "haters" have posted factual and statistical information to support the reasons why they believe RR shouldn't be our coach. RR has been consistent in his inadequacies and responsibility to the program, thus making it easy for us "haters" to point out his many flaws. We all wanted him to be successful but he made a disbeliever out of us very early in his tenure. Now after shredding all facets of the game and staining the University with violations, you agree that he should be let go?

LSUWolverine

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:46 p.m.

The RR kool-aid drinkers are eerily silent today. No tater, Theo, or Lorraine to protect their boy Rich Rod. Good riddance, this was a mistake to begin with and I strongly believe that DB is going to correct it immediately after the bowl season.

truebluefan

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:45 p.m.

Dreadful performance today. Harbaugh will hopefully be Michigan's next coach. Pay whatever it takes to get him to come to Michigan. Please don't settle for Hoke.

3 And Out

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:44 p.m.

Anyone see Theo lately? Is he back from sitting in Dave Brandon's private suite at the game?

mgoblue48348

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:43 p.m.

Newlander yeah maybe you could make up a T shirt like the App State one you have, Alabama could score a 100 on Michigan, Oh and yeah I do think Alabama Beat you bad

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:42 p.m.

NoSUVforMe, I know it is hard for you to admit but welcome to the club. Things will get better soon without RR around. Stay positive and a happy new year to you.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:41 p.m.

RR did one of few things right today by not inserting Devin Gardner onto the field at all. Thank you RR and have better success elsewhere and no, you cannot take TheoCCXII with you as we need him around here.

NoSUVforMe

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:40 p.m.

When RR went for a field goal when down by 24 points and with so much offensive talent and a consistently horrible field goal kicker, I was flabbergasted. I was a supporter of RR, and I stress WAS.

azwolverine

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:39 p.m.

newlander, A quality new coach (Harbaugh, Miles, Hoke) may not win a B10 title next year, but they will have this team playing tough, hardnosed football and competing. And no, it won't take three years. It will be NEXT YEAR. Michigan will have virtually these same players and they will be stronger both physically and mentally and they will be hitting some people and competing. They may go 7-5, but those losses will be hard earned for the winner and it will begin to look like a Michigan football team again...and they will not get laughed off the field by anyone, like they've done too many times to count in the last three years. I personally can't wait.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:38 p.m.

RR did one of few things right today by not inserting Devin Gardner onto the field at all. Thank you RR and have better success elsewhere.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:34 p.m.

skunky, Bad analogy or a red herring, period.

BlueGator

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:33 p.m.

It's a good thing we were healthy and had a month to prepare, or else things could have gotten REALLY embarrassing.

newlander

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:33 p.m.

Craig James brought up a valid point: IF the savior known as Jesus Chr.....errr, I mean Jim Harbaugh does come to AA what will he have to work with? Especially on the defensive side of the ball? If you think Bama beat up MSU today wait until they get ahold of Michigan. My god they might score 100 on them.........good stuff wolvies. GOOD stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:31 p.m.

Wrote this on previous thread and wanted to re-post here. In this game RR has managed to break not 1, not 2, but 3 records of futility for our beloved program: -Most pts given up in a bowl by U-M -Worse Bowl loss in our history -Gator Bowl record for most pts. by one team RR is the King..............of futility!!!

skunkbear1

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:29 p.m.

No big deal. RR just continued Bo's tradition of getting smacked in a bowl game. Same old, same old.

BillMK

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:29 p.m.

RR was brought in to do some things that needed to be done. Unfortunately, too many other things were not done. It is obvious and inescapable that Michigan football needs and will have a new coach and staff. I am not a Rodriguez-hater by any means, and I loathe those who are they never gave him a chance, and their objections and grudges were based on prejudices and inconsequentialities. Neither do I believe that Michigans misfortunes are entirely his fault. In addition, I recognize that replacing the staff may lead to a series of short tenures, as happened at Michigan State and Notre Dame. Nonetheless, the misfortunes and misadventures persist. A lack of concentration and play discipline, a secondary that is not only inexperienced but disinclined to tackle, the hiring of an inept defensive coordinator all these can be attributed to the coaching staff. A longstanding shortage of first-rate talent antedates this staff, and amplifies the effect of injuries. But whatever the problem, failure requires change. When one is recruited to a research faculty position at Michigan, one is typically given everything available with the expectation that one will be producing after three years or so. If one is unlucky though talented, if one does not fit in with existing personnel, if the grants just arent there, if one is a nice person all these may generate sympathy and even affection. But one must still produce or leave. Even tenure, at least in the medical center, guarantees a title but not necessarily a budget or a lab. No position at Michigan is guaranteed. Perhaps Coach Rodriguez would have been an effective offensive coordinator. In many ways, he moved the program in the right direction. In a way, it will be unfair to him if his successor should benefit from his efforts, as would the whole program. But this is not about fairness; it is about success.

ViSHa

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:29 p.m.

i have to say i am surprised the game wasn't closer. i thought with how much the players "love" their coach, they would dig deeper---"win one for the gipper" and all that.

Jaxon5

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:28 p.m.

Headline: Mich outclassed in every phase of game.

DonAZ

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:23 p.m.

RR: "Hello, United Van Lines?" UVL: "Yes! How may we help you?" RR: "I need to hire a moving van." UVL: "Where are you moving to?" RR: "I'm not sure yet. But I know I can't live here any more." UVL: "Oh? Why's that?" RR: "Because I'm an awful ball coach." UVL: "Oh, come on... it can't be that bad." RR: "52 to 14" UVL: "Ouch" RR: "And MSU went 5 for 5 on 4th down." UVL: "Double Ouch." RR: "I'm thinking I can be a greeter at Wal-Mart." UVL: "All due respect, sir... I doubt it." RR: "Yeah, you're right."

mgoblue48348

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:20 p.m.

It is refreshing to see what a good defense can do for an average offense they just made Denard look very average while their QB Relf looked like the real deal and we all know who the better QB is. This game reminded me of Penn State and was equally frustrating. Side note another record shattered today most points scored in the Gator Bowl ever.

LakeMan2

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:20 p.m.

I just feel terrible for all of the faithful Michigan fans everywhere that have had to endure such a pitiful coaching performance over the last three years. I also feel terrible for the current and past players as well as the University. It is so painful to watch what once was an extremely competitve and proud and, many many times downright dominate football program drop to this level. The idiots out there that think this AD should listen to fans who still believe in the tooth fairy and keep this coaching staff on are part of the unbelievable record setting, embarrasing, pathitic low that this program must and will elevate from. To further defend in any way, shape or form the current staff and prettend that next year will be better shows just how mis-guided some of the so called fan base really is. Michigan will be back! We can't erase what has happend but DB can make sure that it doesn't continue. What a crummy day!

ViSHa

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:19 p.m.

LOL @ NoBowlForBlue. I just cringed when the announcer said the players were hearing French and the coaches were speaking Spanish or something like that. Presser should be interesting.

missionbrazil

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:19 p.m.

heartbreak "why does anyone think that our offense was any good? They were dreadful today, and in every game of consequence this year (count, all 6 losses)." Pure Kool-Aid smoke & mirrors. ecmichman... Craig James was a joke today. In the 1st half he said RR should get another year because "he has 1/2 the team doing well" (meaning the O. Then in the 2nd half he said that "UM needs to improve 2/3 of the team, the D and special teams", and also said something like "I'm not sure anyone could win at Michigan". Somehow between the 1st and 2nd halves he discovered there were 3 parts to a team and not only 2. Can we get him to coach at OSU?

mun

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:16 p.m.

Once again, U-M's "great offense" gets shut down by a team that actually plays defense. Spare me the gotta-give-him-more-time meme, half the coaches who won national titles in the last 10 years were in their 3rd year or less (Bob Stoops, Jim Tressels, Urban Meyer, Pete Carroll, Nick Saban, Les Miles, Larry Coker). Hasta la vista, Richie!

AAmom

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:16 p.m.

Harbaugh come HOME!!

LB

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:14 p.m.

You would think with all the xtra practices for a bowl game, that things would be just a little different. BUT no they are not. If they keep him as hc, he better line up with all new assistants. He has to fire all his good ole boys!

alterego

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:12 p.m.

I thought I could stand one more season with Mr. Rodriguez. But I have changed my mind. The spankings must end. My backside is sore.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:11 p.m.

NoBowl4Blue, Nice poem, dude.

Rich Rods worst enemy

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:11 p.m.

a little parting song for Rich Rod and Greg Robinson ---- Nah Nah Nah Nah Hey Hey GOOD-BYE

ecmichman

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:10 p.m.

It was unbelievable how Craig James kept heaping compliments on this offense. It does not work against physical, athletic defenses. U-M was exposed as an inept team that once again had coaches arguing on the sideleines, defenders not knowing where to even line up, and the usual poor fundamentals (how many dropped passes and missed tackles??). Too many steps backward under RR. Let him go so he can build a legacy at a MAC or C-USA program. This is way over his head.

missionbrazil

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:10 p.m.

Leave it to RR to outdo even himself. Now we can add worst ever bowl defeat to his list of record setting accomplishments at UM. Good Big East coach Good Big Ten coach

NoBowl4Blue

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:09 p.m.

Ding dong the king is dead Which old king, theos king Ding dong theos king is dead, Ding dong the king is dead Which old king,Taters king Ding dong taters king is dead. And now we can go get A real coach well get Someone like JH or even better Ding dong the king is dead Which old king, lorains steelmans king Ding dong steelmans king is dead. We will return to the top Without RR we will not stop Ding dong the awful coach will soon be gone.

mgoblue48348

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:09 p.m.

Well that does it for me, I am sitting at another table. I am so sick of getting smoked, albeit good teams but I just can't do it any more. Sorry RR nothin personal but I have left the building. Yes our defense is pathetic and makes the offense look worse but my God give me a break. 42 unanswered nope can't do it no more please DB get JH ASAP. Tuesday will be fine

YouWantedHimYouGoyHim

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:07 p.m.

HE HE I remember when you all thought you pulled to coup of the decade. So embrace your king RR cuz.....(see above) He had the same problems at WVU no adjustments because he is to arrogant to think he could be wrong in the least. Enjoy Wolveriene nation RIP

MjC

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:06 p.m.

Sigh.

Kubrick66

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:06 p.m.

Here's to new beginnings!

Tom B

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:05 p.m.

Hey OSUbeBetter, did you buy those rings off of any players that should have been benched for this upcoming game. We may have been beaten badly but your school will never have any class and it's only time before the whole truth comes out on what happens in Columbus. Hell. Woody got away with it so I guess you all think you can keep it up.

michboy40

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:05 p.m.

Well, That is it for Rich Rod. I know he cares about his players and he's a good guy, I've supporeted him for the most part. Clearly this thing is not working, so good luck down the road. As for the new coach, I don't think Harbaugh is leaving the West Coast, so hello Brady Hoke, come on down, your the next conestant.

Tom Joad

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:04 p.m.

Buh bye, Rich, can't say it hasn't been heartbreaking...try a high school or perhaps a community college...you're just not Michigan material.

DonAZ

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:02 p.m.

Disclosure -- I'm a "hater" Michigan under Rodriguez is awful, and will not get better. Next year, several years, forever. Rodriguez has been trying to recreate WVU with Pat White and Steve Slaton. It's not happening. And Robinson at DC is simply a failure. He is gone. Goodbye.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:01 p.m.

Woody on Bo Schembechler: "We respected one another so damn much. Now that doesn't mean I didn't get so mad at him that I wanted to kick him in the, uh, groin." Go to the website: http://buckeyefansonly.com/woody/ Look around and you will see plenty of shots at our Wolverines under the link, "screw blue" Wonder what is AD Brandon pondering at this moment?

mmppcc

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 5:01 p.m.

I'm no Michigan fan, and even I believe they shouldn't be this bad. At this point, any other coach would be an improvement. Michigan truly needs to concentrate on finding a coach who emphasizes stability and get over their delusions of winning national championships with a flashy coach like Rodriguez. Michigan has shared a total of one championship in the last 60 years. It's not going to happen. Finishing strong in the Big Ten with a defensive minded coach is a much more realistic goal.

Larry Weisenthal

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:59 p.m.

I think that Brandon did himself a favor by waiting until after this game. No one can seriously criticize him for changing head coaches, now. It's not just that Michigan's defense was terrible, along with special teams. The offense was good, but not close to being great. Good teams shut Michigan down pretty well. I'd love to see Harbaugh get the job, but I did a little bit of an internet search, and I think that his first wife, with 3 children, lives in Oakland. He's got two younger children with a second wife, but I wonder if he'd be willing to move away from the SF Bay area, with three children still living there.

2bluebyu

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:59 p.m.

Time for a change...........don't like it..............but it's time. So long Rich Rod.................Happy Trails!!!

GoblueBeatOSU

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:57 p.m.

bye bye RR. Welcome JH!

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:57 p.m.

A must read for everyone: http://mitchalbom.com/d/journalism/787/coach-and-qbschembechler-harbaugh-have-special-relationship

Sean T.

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:56 p.m.

Truthfully, who was really surprised by the outcome? It was like groundhogs day when we play good teams.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:55 p.m.

""I'm not trying to win a popularity poll. I'm trying to win football games. I don't like nice people. I like tough, honest people."...Woody Hayes

3 And Out

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:54 p.m.

well Pete did this change your tune on RR? I supported him in 08 even though the team was terrible and it was his fault...about mid way through last year, I saw it for what it was: poorly coached team. I dont mean to pile on...but I was right and RR is a joke of a coach and did an absolutely TERRIBLE job at Michigan. Now he gets to skate off with 2.5 million buyout... Lets hope our athletic dept. never makes this type of mistake again.

lumberg48108

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:54 p.m.

Exposed! Everyone knew U-M was bad but RR's saving grace was the supposed "great" offense he created! NOT TRUE! This is not a great offense - its a good offense with a great player but against good teams they are exposed as "good" - nothing more! The offense hurts the defense, which has enough trouble on its own. Today, the offense failed to score in the red zone numerous times and killed any chance for the defense to catch its breath! For those thinking coach RR has the offense and only needs a defense and special teams, that myth was exposed today beyond doubt. The last two games U-M score three touchdowns total? The RR experiment is over and he is not a good coach for the Big Ten - time to go!

heartbreakM

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:54 p.m.

why does anyone think that our offense was any good? They were dreadful today, and in every game of consequence this year (count, all 6 losses). Take out the first drive, and DR was horrible, no better than any game from his frosh year. Craig James kept talking about how our offense is so great, but all I saw was a bunch of poor running plays, no pass game whatsoever, and containment of DR which rendered him completely ineffective (other than first drive). Unlike Mississippi State, RR showed that he was true to form and made no adjustments. I counted down the last 20 seconds of the game and celebrated more than last night at midnight for the end of the RR era. What a blight on Michigan's history.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:53 p.m.

Woody Hayes: "Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their players heads and motivate them."

OSUbeBetter

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:53 p.m.

And this is why michigan Did not deserve to be any where near a new years day bowl

John

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:51 p.m.

Turn out the lights....the partys' over.....

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:51 p.m.

UM 2-6 in the last 8 games.

D21

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:50 p.m.

The long awaited coronation of King Harbaugh is finally at hand. Thank you Bulldogs for exposing some of RR's weaknesses.

Don

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:49 p.m.

Man, can we end this pathetic charade known as the "Rich Rod" experiment now?! Please Jim Harbaugh, come save us from this hell, but only if you plan on being here for a LONG time!

Nick

Sat, Jan 1, 2011 : 4:48 p.m.

bad day for Rich Rodriguez