Michigan football team's defense collapses in 41-31 loss at Penn State

Posted on Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:20 p.m.

Michigan football team's defense collapses in 41-31 loss at Penn State

By Pete Bigelow

Penn State's Evan Royster works past cornerback J.T. Floyd. Royster finished with 150 yards rushing and two touchdowns.

Melanie Maxwell | AnnArbor.com

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. - They switched players to different positions. They worked on fundamentals during an extra week of practice. They even put newcomers onto the football field.

None of the changes could disguise the fact the same old Michigan defense showed up Saturday night.

In perhaps its most disappointing performance of a season littered with them, the Wolverines allowed a walk-on quarterback starting his first college game to rip them apart in a 41-31 loss.

It’s not the first time that’s happened.

In 2008, Purdue quarterback Justin Siller, starting his first game ever, shredded the Wolverines for 266 passing yards and three touchdowns while carrying for 77 yards and another TD in a 48-42 Boilermaker win.

That Michigan loss officially ended the team’s 33-year postseason streak.

The Wolverines hoped to start a new streak in 2010, and entered Saturday’s game in Happy Valley searching for their sixth win of the season, one that would make them bowl-eligible for the first time in the Rich Rodriguez era.

Instead, the defense remained the team’s Achilles’ heel, as it has since that dreadful 2008 season.

In 2008, the defense ranked ninth in the Big Ten, allowing 366.9 yards per game. In 2009, it finished ninth again, allowing 393.3 yards per game. Entering Saturday’s game, the defense ranked last in the Big Ten, allowing 441.0 yards per game.

It got worse Saturday.

Penn State quarterback Matt McGloin did his best impression of veteran Big Ten passers Kirk Cousins and Ricky Stanzi, picking apart the Wolverines for 250 passing yards and a touchdown on 17-for-28 passing. Running back Evan Royster awoke from a season-long slump and ran for 150 yards and two touchdowns.

On the day, the Nittany Lions amassed 435 yards.

Right from the start, McGloin looked like trouble. He directed a 14-play, 71-yard drive on Penn State’s first series that took six minutes off the clock and culminated in Royster’s 4-yard touchdown run.

Denard Robinson responded, answering with a 32-yard touchdown run that tied the game at seven. But the Nittany Lions came right back, turning to Royster for a 1-yard score on the next drive that put them ahead for good.

During the bye week that preceded the game, Michigan (5-3 overall, 1-3 Big Ten) stressed fundamentals on defense.

Then on Saturday night, in front of the only prime-time audience the team will see this season, the Wolverines started Ray Vinopal at free safety for the first time this year, moved Cam Gordon from safety to the hybrid linebacker position and played Quinton Washington on the defensive line.

He just switched from the offensive line to defense last week.

The throw-everything-and-the-kitchen-sink approach couldn’t stop the Nittany Lions (5-3, 2-2), who ended a two-game Big Ten skid.

At one point early in the fourth quarter, Rich Rodriguez brought every defensive member of the roster onto the field and implored them to make a stop.

Overall, the defensive performance wasted a fierce comeback from the Wolverines offense.

Despite trailing 28-10 at halftime, Robinson rallied the team and directed the offense to touchdowns on three consecutive possessions from the mid-third quarter to early fourth.

A 60-yard touchdown pass to Kevin Koger started the thaw. Then Robinson scored himself on 1- and 4-yard runs to make it 38-31 with 9:34 left in the game.

But Penn State’s Collin Wagner kicked a 42-yard field goal on the ensuing possession and the Nittany Lions stopped Michigan on fourth-and-eight play with 4:08 remaining to essentially clinch the win.

Adding insult to the wound, Wagner carried for a first down on a fake field-goal attempt with 3:43 left that let the Nittany Lions kill the clock.

Robinson finished with 27 carries for 191 yards and three touchdowns, and completed 11 of 23 passes for 190 yards and another TD, his best performance since the Indiana game.

In the end, it wasn’t enough.

Comments

Skipit3

Mon, Nov 1, 2010 : 12:58 p.m.

Ok! I understand that I am a minority on this forum here and I'm probably going to get beheaded for my post! Regardless, it's honorable for one to stand up for his/her belief. I STILL SUPPORT RR! Let me get this straight! Just because Harbaugh has a good record at Stanford, that automatically guarantees that he will likewise have a good one at Michigan? Well, the same could be said of RR since he also had a good record at WV. No wait! The Big East is an inferior conference. Well, Jim Tressel was hired out of the FCS. I also remember how much Auburn fans were complaining about the Chizik hire. I wonder how many more of them are still complaining. Just like any other Michigan fan, I have also been devastated by the losses and the poor performance of the team's defense, but I have learned never to let emotions drive my decisions or where I stand. RR is certainly very stubborn and he still has a lot to learn (I believe that he has learned quite a bit so far since he's been at UM). However, I don't believe that RR is as bad a coach as most of you are labeling him as. He did not suddenly turn into a dummy when he came to Michigan. I do agree with the majority of you that changes of some kind will have to be made for this team to get back to prominence. However, I don't believe that firing RR is necessarily the solution. Perhaps RR needs to let go of some of his buddies that left WV with him, but a competitive and passionate coach like RR will get things right if given the time. I understand that the last two seasons and this season have been painful, but patience itself is painful. Finally, I will leave you with this piece that I have copied and pasted from espn.com: "Illinois is one of the nation's big surprises: The Great Experiment is working. Illinois' decision to stick with Ron Zook and make major changes on the staff is translating to the field, where a talented and hungry team is executing at a high level. Quarterback Nathan Scheelhaase blossomed Saturday with a career performance, and Illinois continued to play well on defense and special teams. The Illini might be favored in all four of their remaining games and certainly look like they're headed for a decent bowl game, which seemed highly unlikely before the season. Kudos to Zook and his players."

Dennis

Mon, Nov 1, 2010 : 10:11 a.m.

ED and Az, The man I suggested doesn't create controvery (he found himself in one with Mr. Martin) and he has A National Championship ring on his finger. I did not suggest that Harbaugh wasn't a good coach, but, he doesn't have the body of work. From my perspective a good coach concentrates on his team and doesn't need to rise up by spouting off about others from years gone by. Once again, he has a "long history" of engaging his mouth. I have no problem living a life with integrity and not running around and feeling compelled to address another person's or institution's inventory. HOLY JIM! The NCAA rules committee might have an opening.

Jatra

Mon, Nov 1, 2010 : 9:53 a.m.

True wolverine fan please stop quoting Yost as if you are the only "true" Michigan fan on the planet. I went to Michigan, I played for Michigan under Carr! It is unbelievable what is happening with the defense. It breaks my heart to see 11 kids go out every game and run around with no clue what to do. If coach Rodriguez valued defense he would have never selected a coach who ruined a program, a coach he beat like a drum when he was at WV, to be his defensive coordinator. Blind locality is no loyalty at all, it is denial and stupidity. Everyone must quit blaming the " untalented" kids on D, 99.9% of the population could not do what they do. Michigan has the talent (we don't have the worst defensive players in the FBS) we are lacking in leadership. These are young men who need someone to stand up and lead! Greg Robinson hides after the game and allows 18-19-20 year old kids to take the heat from the media. Save the quotes for a scrap book, let's examine the reality.

Dennis

Mon, Nov 1, 2010 : 9:44 a.m.

Cut to the chase!!!!! Rich Rod must RESIGN

wvtroll

Mon, Nov 1, 2010 : 7:02 a.m.

Wow, took forever to read most of these posts. The one thing I come away with is that none of you point the finger at the real guilty party. Another thing I see is that you all are rushing to judgment on RR's replacement and the timing of such. Let me explain: The real guilty party in the mess UM has right now is that university over in West Virginia. Can you fathom a more sneaky school. They not only didn't bend to RR's demands, but didn't press for him to honor his contract and let him slither away in the darkness of night. Those dogs!! Could they have always known his abilities or was it that choke against Pitt? Now the other point. You all rush to fire RR now that it's looking bad. I think you need to slow down on this a little. You do not want to rush in and replace him with another flash hire. Take your time. This season is a wash and you should do it right this time when you hire a head coach. Find your proper Michigan man, someone who has experience in a conference similar to the B10, not a lowly conference like the Big East. I really think that replacing RR with someone who has true coaching abilities will not have that much trouble getting UM back on course. We're talking about college-level players, not high school beginners. They can learn quickly. You have plenty of quality players on your roster, you just don't have anyone who knows what to do with them.

15crown00

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 11:31 p.m.

defense wins championships.offense wins headlines lets see the offense is good enough.the defense is terrible.special teams are terrible.coaching is off the charts terrible. Richard Rod is in charge of the whole mess.his team doesn't win.he's got to go.why is that so hard to understand about that? a few of us were preaching this 3 years ago.The Blue and Yellow faithful response was "oh no give him another year."last year came and went.faithfuls response was the same.Finally in 2010 they are beginning to see the light.HAIL to the VICTORS

azwolverine

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 11:07 p.m.

Dennis, Harbaugh also took over a 1-11 team and, four years later, has beaten USC three times and has his 8-1 team pretty highly rated in the BCS(only loss to the #1 team, btw). But as you say, don't get bogged down in details...

Dennis

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 10:52 p.m.

Ghost Edward, It is quite possible to have integrity and keep ones mouth shut. If I recall correctly and I do Mr. Harbaugh was always one who liked and drew attention to himself. Has he even won a Pac Ten Championship? Let's not get bogged down with details...........

heartbreakM

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 8:02 p.m.

What's more to say? The results speak enough. I was at the game, and it was painful. Here are all the PSU fans moaning about old JoeP and barely showing up in time for a late game, and they go out and smoke us. I told those around me to be careful about what they wish for. Also: This notion that our offense is so improved--in the MSU, Iowa, and PSU games--the scores got pretty out of hand before our stats could improve at all. Though Iowa and PSU were each 10 point losses, the offense could not do much until both games were nearly out of reach, and it would have been repeated herculean efforts to pull those out. A good offense is consistent, with multiple contributors, and does not wait until the end to get things done. DR was exciting and put up yards, but come on, there is absolutely no running game outside of him (which exposes him quite a lot), the receivers have not been dominating as we all think they should and could, and there is no offensive flow. So even though numbers are still there, I would argue that offensive production in the B10 is not good enough.

freemill

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 6:47 p.m.

I supported RR, but this loss to PSU was the most discouraging in all three years of his tenur- hote to say this, nut it's time to clean house; it's just not working. At the same think Chris Peterson, Boise State in 2011, may provide the appropriate change to can utilize current players without starting from scratch - Peterson runs a similar spread, will not have to start from scratch - RR player skills similar to what Peterson already recruits. Further, wonder how many recruits feel the same trepidation about committing to UM.

saginaw

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 6:39 p.m.

RR fooled Bill Martin. RR has even fooled Vegas: We were 4.5 favorites to beat MSU and we lost by 17 We were 2.5 favorites to beat PSU and we lost by 10 What's next? Wil they favor us to beat Illinios in the Big House?

johnnya2

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 5:02 p.m.

Tru Blue: Do you recall when a freshman left tackle, freshman QB and freshman running back all started on the same team? The first year under RR he had 7 returning starters on defense. You are making excuses, jusst like RRod. If he were running a program that showed quality, integrity and was improving I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but he is a good MAC, or Big East coach. He is not ready for Big Ten,. SEC, Pac 10 level competitors. While we are at it, name ONE good victory in three years. He has not beaten a good team yet.

Dennis

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 4:55 p.m.

I see a ton of Harbaugh comments in here. As far as I am concerned he burned bridges with Michigan with his comments last year. He had a BIG mouth as a player and he still does years later as a coach. Hire the Michigan man that has a National Championship under his belt and a Michigan clause in his contract. In my opinion this is a no brainer. Mr. Les Miles would fix this mess quickly and do so with class!

azwolverine

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 2:26 p.m.

Tru2Blu, I admire persistence, but I respectfully disagree. RR will not win big at Michigan, he will never beat OSU, and MSU and OSU are far from lucky in their current domination over Michigan. They are better. Heck, even mediocre PSU is far better than us. You may be right in that the AD may keep him for another season, but if he does, that will certainly be the last season for RR. With the addition of Nebraska, not to mention OSU, MSU, and Iowa, along with the other B10 teams on our schedule, 7-5 is about the max next year's team would produce. That simply won't do after three poor/mediocre (depending on how this one finishes) seasons. The RR tenure will not last the length of his contract...it will end either this season or next.

XTR

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 1:42 p.m.

Most probably Dave Brandon will let them finish the season before letting them go. If there is a clause that UM will not pay any separation to RR for violating NCAA rules then that is what they are waiting for. Harbaugh is just waiting for UM to call him. He is not going anywhere until UM hires him. The only time I will only believe that Jimmy will go back is when he says he wont afer he is offered the job.

15crown00

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:51 p.m.

To Mr. Yost "Win or be Vanquished". Blue Brains congratulations.Finally and almost universally you're coming out four square AGAINST Rich Rod.from the beginning people like me preached the "get rid of him message." We were called Trolls and worse. WELL Troll Callers WHO was Right? WHO was Wrong? Hail to the RATIONALE Victors

saintd

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:32 p.m.

when de fence collapses de lions get out!

azwolverine

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : noon

RR is not even of Bill Callahan's caliber. At least Callahan, as horrible as he was, had a 9 win season in his third year at Nebraska. I don't foresee that happening with RR at UM. And no, Nebraska firing Callahan did NOT set the program back at all. It slingshot the program back to instant credibility and top 10 prominence. The right hire at UM would do the exact same thing.

sedroc98

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 11:51 a.m.

Brian Kelly didnt get an interview because of comments he made about michigan during recruting. Dont forget harbaugh talked bad about michigan saying "they lower there standards to get in athletes". So we'll see if the michigan higher ups even want him around. ps you think Cower is a pipe dream?

Harbaugh

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 11:44 a.m.

"I am the way the truth and the light"-Harbaugh

loco123

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 11:21 a.m.

Mick52, the data shows something different. Of the last 9 teams on top of the B10 (going back 5 years), all 9 had D's in the top 10 nationally. Only 2 had O's in the top 15. In the Big 10, D is about 90% of your success. RR's offense can't win in the Big 10. Now we know why he he's 4-17 in the Big 10. This is also why OSU brought in a crappy Prior 2 years ago, switched to a spred and still won the B10. It was their D.

Jaxon5

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 11:06 a.m.

People make the mistake of considering the offense and defense as two completely independent entities where one does not affect the other. Nothing could be further from the truth. Michigan's offense does not control the ball long enough to give it's defense a break. As a result, the defense is on the field too long. And, then the defense play suffers. It's a vicious cycle. RR program a success? No. Not at all. Not on offense or defense.

ELM

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 11:02 a.m.

Penn State fan here. I think you guys need to focus on the positive... While I realize Penn State had a lot of injuries on an already untypical mediocre Penn State defense, I think RR has the right offensive scheme and an excellent quarterback (he may need some polishing with throwing, but that will come with time, for he is still young...wow- he made me sweat bullets during that game!). The problem (as most of you already pointed out)is that defense. As a Penn State fan, I can remember all too well how we had our heads handed to us for years by Carr-lead Michigan teams who had nasty defenses...and so I seriously questioned the hire of the ex-Syracuse coach. Get a real defensive guy, and you should be good. (although to get back to the Michigan of old (greatness), you need a different coach- I think Harbaugh would fit the Big Ten and Michigan much better- not too much smoke and mirrors and side to side stuff- just fundamentally good power football with a nasty defense. In regards to our walk-on QB- true, he does not have much experience or talent, but he is not smart of enough to know better- and from what I heard he has a ton of confidence- for whatever reason- and I think that level-headedness and modicum of talent worked well against a porous defense like Michigans. Hopefully, one of us and beat Ohio State this year! (and I think both of our teams have about the same chance). Hang in there, for as a Penn State fan I know all too well what those down years can be like- and good luck with a new Big Ten world next year.

Mick52

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 10:48 a.m.

I don't think you can say the RR's program is a failure or will not work in the Big Ten. As evidence, look at the offensive stats. 31 points should have been enough to win any ballgame. Over 400 yards in this game. The fewest scored is 17, enough to win. Some fine tuning is needed but the offense is clicking fairly well for an offense with some relatively young players in key positions. The complete failure is the defense. PSU punted only two times and ran up 400+ yards. There is the factor that results in the losses. So to say RR program will not work in the Big Ten is wrong. Half is working. We need a Michigan defense.

Jonny Spirit

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 10:46 a.m.

Hey OSUbuckeye don't you love how every Michigan fan out there has to cheer for every other team out there to beat you or us. Because when MSU or OSU plays Mich it a joke. I hope we can get little sister Mich off our schedule because there making our strength of schedules to easy and we are starting to look like Bosie St's schedule. I would drop MI and ND to play Bowling Green and Toledo, that would be a little harder.

OSUBuckeye

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 10:26 a.m.

All of you bore me, much like what your football program does to the whole country.... As for you, with the Jayhawk logo, not sure if I get it, but you do show a little intelligence in saving your Michigan money, your grandkids' grandkids may have a chance to use it. UM is the little bit** of OSU, and the little sister of MSU

loco123

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 10:26 a.m.

Trivia: who has the worst D in D1 football? Answer: Ron English's EMU. Kudo's to Martin's staff for running a great head coach selection process.

UMfan2001

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 10:21 a.m.

Even I can tell the weakness of the UM Defense by watching the game. Runs the ball sideway, throws to the secondary and use trick play. All these will guarantee win against RR's football team.

UMfan2001

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:55 a.m.

Th WR drops the ball, QB cannot throw accurately, RB not gaining yards, Defense complete breakdown...Sound like UM football. Hell no if you tell me 3 years ago that this is what we getting with the new coaching staff. Antagonizing to be a UM Alumni and football fan

Michigan_Jayhawk

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:50 a.m.

Save your Michigan money, honey; the Wolverines will rise again (someday).

UMfan2001

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:43 a.m.

Michigan_Jayhawk

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:38 a.m.

Hey OSUBuckeye. I found some logos too.

loco123

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:38 a.m.

Oh, another sign that we got better during our 2 weeks off, our kick offs didn't go out of bounds....TWICE! OSU look out! We're coming down to Columbus and will kick the ball off in bounds EVERY TIME!!!! See how JT deals with that!

UMfan2001

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:32 a.m.

Does the coaching staff teaches the players how to "tackles" and "strip the ball"? These are the fundamentals!!! I wonder what they did in the bye-week?

loco123

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:32 a.m.

This team is clearly "getting better" and 'showing improvement'. We made a field goal last night. Congrats, RR!

OSUBuckeye

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:31 a.m.

Why? Because your worthless program can't get the job done?

UMfan2001

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:29 a.m.

I like the writer's comment about the UM defense approach "throw-everything-and-the-kitchen-sink. It sound like a desperate attempt. Is this the best defense the coaching staff can conjure up after a bye-week?

Michigan_Jayhawk

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:28 a.m.

Only when they play against THE Ohio State University.

OSUBuckeye

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:27 a.m.

Sorry, I couldn't fit Appalachian State or University of Toledo's logo here for you Next week I may add Michigan State's

Joe

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:25 a.m.

3 And Out - VERY well put! I sooooo hope that what you wrote does happen.....starting today!!!!!!

OSUBuckeye

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:23 a.m.

You have resorted to rooting for other programs now?

OSUBuckeye

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:21 a.m.

Yeah? What have you been doing for the past decade?

Michigan_Jayhawk

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:18 a.m.

One of these days, my OSUBuckeye friend, you'll have to eat your words. Sick-em Iowa.

OSUBuckeye

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:14 a.m.

M-Fan, what's Michigan Football?

Wolveroon

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:12 a.m.

If/when RR is let go, then we should hire Mike Belotti. Rumor holds that he is interested in coaching again. He would be an excellent spread coach, as his resume at Oregon indicates, so the fit would be there. Our D is not what it has been as far as I can remember. More changes are coming...........

Michigan_Jayhawk

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 9:09 a.m.

To OSUBuckey.....We need him. He tells the truth and knows Michigan Football!!!!!

Michigan_Jayhawk

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 8:58 a.m.

About 7:00pm last night, I had to sneak out of the house and capture my MSU flag from flying proudly at the end of the driveway. I hoisted the maize and blue M flag. About 9:30pm, I went out to again play "Capture The Flag." Next week I plan on hoisting the good old "Stars and Stripes." Woops, my wife just reminded me of Al Qaeda.

OSUBuckeye

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 8:45 a.m.

" I'm coming to save the program " Harbaugh

umdgt

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 8:24 a.m.

The concept of loyalty is irrelevant in this discussion if one takes an objective look at what is going on. It is fine to stand behind the team and the schoool, while at the same time taking a close look at what is working and what is not. And it doesn't take a genius to see what is not.... The fact is that Mickey Mouse Big East-style football doesn't work when you play with the big boys. The trickery is getting old and has been figured out. Oregon plays a successful brand of it on offense, but does it with bigger guys and they can display some power. They can also play some defense. But in the end they are somewhat vulnerable as well, and Ohio State showed that last year. The world has figured out the Big East too, and there isn't a single team in the top 25. It's garbage football and I personally can't stand to watch it. It's killing me that once-mighty Michigan subscribes. Folks, it is time to cut our losses and move on.

win

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 8:19 a.m.

4 games to go. I wish I was more confident with my 8-4 prediction, but it doesn't look like that will happen. I'm still supporting my team. The team has improved on offense, but defense and special teams have gotten worse each year. I guess the pending sanctions might be the last straw for RR. Not sure if they go 6-6 Brandon will even accept a bowl bid. He'd likely want to get a new coach in here on Dec 1. GO BLUE!!

a2citizen

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 8:19 a.m.

"Thanks Lloyd Carr for leaving the program in shambles, you succeeded in your quest." It's interesting to note that the quarterback Carr left behind is in the running for the Heisman and will be the first quarterback selected in the NFL draft.

Clemmer

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 7:52 a.m.

Mr. Brandon, I hope you are seeing and watching the product that is being displayed on the field each and every Saturday. As the athletic director, you have to realize that the program is not going in the right direction, and it is time for a change. 4-16 big ten record, 2 of those wins against Indiana and 1 against Minnesota. A defensive system that cannot stop anyone, offenses that have shown poor performance throughout the season perform incredibly well against this defense, due to the following reasons: 1) Secondary players playing 5-10 yards off the ball, 2) Allowing too many 3rd down conversions, 3) A linebacking corp that does not follow their assignments effectly, and 4) A defensive front that does not put enough pressure on the quarterback. Charlie Weis lost his job at Notre Dame because he focused solely on the offense, and his defense was just as lackluster as Michigan's. You have to see the same thing all of us are seeing. We all hoped that during Rich's 3rd season that improvement would be shown. We would start competing with the higher echelon teams in the Big Ten, and start being in the top 5 in the Big Ten. This has not happened, not even close. Yes, our offense has improved, but you can't win Big Ten games unless you have a defense. I will continue to be a supporter of Michigan football. I will continue to be a season ticket holder, be there at all the games. I am not one of those season ticket holders that start selling their tickets when the ship starts to sink. I will be there next week, rooting them on against Illinois, but as a fan, I am disappointed regarding the product that is put on the field by our head coach, Rich Rodriguez. Not only the product, he is not a Michigan man, he does not stand for ethics and integrity. Michigan will be receiving a consequence from the NCAA soon due to the poor ethics. It's all adding up, for the worst, and I can't see it improving anytime soon. Mr. Brandon, Michigan has the financial capability to buy out Rich Rodriguez. Buy him out, let's move forward, let's get a Michigan man back in our program. Go after Jim Harbaugh, Les Miles, or I would even give Brady Hoke an opportunity. Someone who knows what Michigan stands for, and who is given the opportunity to turn this around. When we do hire another coach, a Michigan man, we will realize that the turnaround will not happen overnight. Mr. Brandon, listen to your alumni, fans, and the Michigan community. It is time for a change.

newe82

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 7:46 a.m.

5-7 and no bowl. Still a Michigan fan, but don't really care about the rest of this year. Time to move on. I will not make any more comments about this current staff. Let's look forward to next year and another competent coaching staff. Harbaugh gets my vote.

Brad

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 7:46 a.m.

Now here's an apropos Yost guote for RR: "Football games arent won, theyre lost." --Fielding Yost

Brad

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 7:44 a.m.

"I am spinning in my frickin grave" --Fielding Yost

Jaxon5

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 7:34 a.m.

Headline should say: "Michigan football is dead." There is nothing left. Years away from a Big 10 title: a. 5-10 b. 11-15 c. 16 or more

JGS

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 7:33 a.m.

@3 and out - your plan sounds solid. I hope that's the way it goes down. I've been on this wagon forever, but my grip is starting to loosen. Every week it's the same thing. I'm starting to wonder if I'm watching the college version of the Detroit Lions. Never in my life would I ever have thought we'd be this low in the sewer. Thanks Lloyd Carr for leaving the program in shambles, you succeeded in your quest.

lawrencelaundry

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 7:20 a.m.

@starzone, how many night games have we had this yr? U must have missed my point? My point is watching UM football sucks and I should do more useful things with my time. I'm rdy for Harbaugh is what Saying.

tulsatom

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 6:57 a.m.

Just when we thought the defense couldn't play any worse, it did. The ESPN announcers used terms like "porous" and "shellshocked" to describe the U-M defense and its players and I think they were being kind. Too many mental errors, players out of position, players getting whipped at the line of scrimmage, you name it. When was the last time the U-M defense got an interception or fumble recovery? I think it was the Indiana game. Rich Rodriguez is a good offensive coordinator but is a pathetically bad head coach because he has ignored the defense far too long and it is painfully obvious to any U-M fan that the "RR experiment" has turned into a train wreck. Sure, it didn't help that Mike Martin reinjured his ankle and his replacement played more like Ricky Martin, but that wasn't the difference in the game. As usual, the offense played good enough to win but the defense was a disgrace.

rensational

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 6:34 a.m.

"@OSUBuckeye You took the words out of my mouth. To bad we don't play each other this year, it would of been a good game." Yeah, like that rousing MSU collapse against Iowa that everybody picking games completely expected. It's sad when you're undefeated and are still more disrespected than us on a national stage, huh? Ohio State has been dropped by the sports media like a hot potato, too--the talking heads are more impressed by Wisconsin than any other team in the Big Ten--so whatever you all need to do to feel better about yourselves... Nothing new to say about RR, GR and Michigan. Frankly, everything most Michigan fans are just now starting to realize and have posted here is stuff I was saying last year when about half of these posts were poo-pooing people like me for saying it. I'm having a hard time believing that David Brandon can't see where the program is and what needs to be done, whether we make a bowl game this season or not.

A2Dave

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 5:59 a.m.

I feel for the players trying to explain or justify the defense every week, while the silence of Greg Robinson is deafening. The Michigan Defensive Coordinator is a hopeless failure at defense--his entire coaching career demonstrates this. Only inept coaches force their players into a system, rather than adapting their "system" to the abilities and talents of the players. Only the insane continue to do the same thing and expect different results. And, as the comic says, "you can't fix stupid". Why hasn't Greg Robinson demonstrated the wisdom and maturity to resign? Good leaders do that when they cannot lead. Why hasn't he been fired? How much of this do the players and fans have to endure? Finally Coach RR, when you looked across the field at a truly great coach, didn't you think of his first principle: Defenses win Championships? Or his second: adapt your system to your players' abilities?

Rocketron

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 5:43 a.m.

Another pathetic performance-especially by the defense. It is becoming painfully obvious that RR must be fired. Obviously GR is gone but I hope they don't let RR use him as a scapegoat Once again we had a comedy of errors ranging from unwise late hits to poor kick return decisions along with dumb penalties that took us out of key scoring drives. My greatest worry is how much longer will the rebuilding take if another coaching change occurs. The obvious choice for a replacement would be Jim Harbaugh but, as we learned painfully last time, people may not be standing in line for this job. Thank you Bill Martin. But wait before long the basketball season will be starting which will likely have even more disasterous results. Again thank you Bill Martin.

sasmjjsly

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 5:36 a.m.

It's 6:30 a.m., why am I not reading about Greg Robinson's firing? It's too late to save the season, but a message must be sent NOW! And RichRod, the seat is no longer hot, you are sitting on a three alarm blaze.

Jonny Spirit

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 5:31 a.m.

@OSUBuckeye You took the words out of my mouth. To bad we don't play each other this year, it would of been a good game. I agree keep RR around, come on people give him a chance. Carr left the cabinets bare he had nobody, and now all his kids are young. They will get better;) or leave and become great.

annarbortownie

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 5:28 a.m.

Yes, RR has to go. he can't win a Big 10 game. ALSO, why do we have a tower in the new stadium named after the man who bumbled the entire hiring process in the first place and THEN built over priced boxes for people to come watch Michigan lose under RR. Remove the name Bill Martin from any part of the stadium!!!! Lets move on and try to forget this entire episode in Michigan Football history! Hopefully the next hiring process will be handled in a professional, straight forward manner and not with leaked cell phone calls and no vetting of the person being hired. An awful lot of dirt followed RR here!

tresselowns

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 4:26 a.m.

Rich Rodriguez = Bill Callahan...hate to say it, but I almost hope they lose out to leave no doubt. Unfortunately, Denard will probably beat Purdue by himself, 63-60, they'll go to the Carquest Bowl, and some will claim that as progress. C'mon Brandon, pull the plug on this mess. Ask Neb fans if firing Callahan set their program back.

klick12

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 2:57 a.m.

Come on guys. After all the practice and this point in the season did we really think that an extra week was going to make a difference in how this defense perfomed? (Could'nt understand why he would bother to make lineman off/def switches this late in the season, but then PLAYING them the very next game is just asking for mistakes.) Even though PSU is struggling it is always tough to beat them in Happy Valley. There is a lot of talent on that team. However you can always count on good ol RR to make an opposing teams ailing offense look like world beaters. That being said, is ther still anybody out there that REALLY wants to keep this TRAINWRECK for a coach?

3 And Out

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 2:37 a.m.

keep talking skeye....you know in your heart that the biggest thing that you idiots fear is that Jim Harbaugh comes back to Michigan. He wont take crap from you people and he will not treat The Game as 'any other game' and you know it... so keep that in the back of your little mind.

OSUBuckeye

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 2:33 a.m.

Okay, can you now please take your program and go to Division A2, your program is really hurting the Big 10? I see a good foundation here to begin a rivalry against Appalachian State, because we all know you can't hang in the MAC ( Toledo ) We really need to do something about having your program as our last game, it really is a momentum killer going into Bowl Season -- Your program and school's a joke -- I've never seen more quotes from dead people in my life, is that all you have to cling on to. We think you should give RR more time, we love him here in Ohio. We look forward to building our next great tradition against a real football program, your BIG Brother MSU.... You guys are a joke That last game isn't even fun anymore

3 And Out

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 2:19 a.m.

Hopefully the NCAA violations will be released this week....then Brandon can cut Rich A. Rodriguez loose, and then work out a settlement on his buyout...ask Coach McGee if he would consider taking over as interim coach for the remainder of the season...in exchange for giving McGee an opportunity to interview for the position, as well as showcasing his HC skills for other possible jobs. Brandon can personally call all of the recruits and assure them that Michigan will hire a great coach and will come back from the bottom of the Big Ten. Put in some feeler calls to see if the likes of Jim Harbaugh would be interested in the position.... work on putting together an actual plan for the new hire and get that new hire in place BEFORE any possible Pizza Bowl and 6-6 record. That is the best case scenario going forward with a probable 3 out of 4 or perhaps 4 out of 4 losses and NCAA violations. Peace and Go Blue! We will survive this mess.

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 2:19 a.m.

I think the defense went in there pre-collapsed, and stayed that way. The offense seems to be doing okay, since it scores a lot. The defense... I don't know what to say.

Macabre Sunset

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 1:58 a.m.

Bo was actually 194-48-5 over 21 seasons, the 13 shared or outright conference titles is correct. Bo also lost only 24 games in the Big Ten in 21 years. Rodriguez, not even through his third season yet, is already up to 16 Big Ten losses. I don't even want to think about keeping Rodriguez around unless he makes it to eight wins. That would still only be a.500 conference record, and worse than anything Schembechler, Moeller or Carr ever put together in any of their 39 combined seasons.

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 1:22 a.m.

Defense, offense, special teams, coaching.....etc. This team just STINKS from top to bottom period. I've been watching Rich Frod team all year and the writings were on the wall. The team benefited earlier from a weaker teams with BAD DEFENSES (go back and see). The 5-0 start wasn't impressive considering the competition. Michigan could've easily been 3-2 or 2-3. Late drive against ND, Indiana,Umass. BGSU w/back up QB.....but when they faced the real music the dancing stopped. DR is an exciting player but won't last in his position. To much pounding and hits and no other PLAYMAKERS on the team. The players might be fast but lack strength and size. THIS IS THE BIG TEN AND NOT BIG EAST. DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS. Did anyone watch Wisky against OSU? They frustrated an overrated TP all night. Rich Frod is overpaid,overrated,stubborn,hot headed coach. Here's a questions to the M fans, can you name ONE POSITIVE INSTANCE that happened to this football team since RR arrival at Michigan campus? ooops, sorry I forgot to blame LC for all the distractions,violations,attritions......that happened to the this once storied program since Rich Rod took over.

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 1:22 a.m.

Blueman Rick

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:36 a.m.

TWF: No UM fan "enjoys" a loss. Your inference that sticking w/ RR will yield a national championship is rather silly don't you think? FYI: Bo was 234658, and won or shared 13 Big Ten Titles when it truly mattered.

StarZone

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:33 a.m.

@lawrencelaundry: It was a night game; what on Earth are you doing out hunting that late? Hunting ends at dusk.

Jatra

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:33 a.m.

Dennis

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:33 a.m.

RR must go! He had 2 weeks to prepare his team for a mediocre PSU Team. His offense finally responded in the second half and they scored 31 points. The problem is that once again he had No, Nada, Zilch, MIA defense. An inexperienced "walk on" QB had a field day against them. How long must this insane experiment continue? This reminds me of the Tommy Amacure fiasco. Both very nice guys, but, inept in getting their teams to perform at a competitive (Michigan) level!

lawrencelaundry

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:26 a.m.

Walk on qb smoked us. With a crap load of starters on Penn states defense on the sideline. Unreal. Brandon better make the change before the talent is gone and transferred. RR forces these DC to run this ridiculous 335 even though they have no idea how to run it. Overall, it falls back on RR. I can't believe I skip hunting to watch this mess. Michigan football is a joke. I will start hunting from now on an not waste my time watching RR make the best university look like a bunch of kindergarten players. Poor kids have talent. Its the coaches that don't. Example. Vincent smith on a 3rd and 2 straight down the middle.hahahah. while the 235 pound back is on the side line. What a joke. Recruiting will only get worse.

3 And Out

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:23 a.m.

Suzukisv claims that "nobody wanted to play for Carr".... wow, so 8 straight top 10 recruiting classes in his last 8 seasons... were filled with players that "didnt want to play for him"? LOL...whatever. The TRUTH is that the day Lloyd retired, he left 7 starters on defense, 8 starters on offense and the punter all coming back. The guys who "didnt want to play"....didnt want to play for Rich Rod. Not Carr. and that is a fact.

3 And Out

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:20 a.m.

Larry W...everyone I know who knows Gary Moeller says that he is a great man. He had one incident, one...that doesnt make him "flawed"....his players loved him, coaches too.

3 And Out

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:16 a.m.

MTRADITION.... just wanted to thank you for what you said...your Yost Kipke analogy is excellent.

azwolverine

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:03 a.m.

So if we hire a new DC, and suddenly it works, is it because we have a new DC or because our players have finally "grown up?" Hard to say, because with all of the excuses flying around, it's hard to remember from day to day what the the true problem is supposed to be.

Steven R. Pardon

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:02 a.m.

The Big East is is not the Big 10. It's weak compared to the the Western Conference. That's the main reason Schafer does well there. RR's offense, while good when Denard is healthy, does not control the ball for any length of time. A team needs time consuming, punishing drives to keep its defense off the field and to wear the other team's defense down. Say what you want about Bo's lack of an NC. People seem to forget that he rebuilt a moribund Michigan program upon his arrival by employing that style of football. His successors did pretty well with it, too. Yes, RR's the big play offense is exciting, and it does put points on the board. However, it hasn't worked in the Big 10. Sorry to say it, but Rodriguez has had his chance. It's time to clean house.

Kubrick66

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : 12:02 a.m.

musthaved... Unfortunately the offense has proven that it too is a work in progress and often struggles against an average Big Ten defense. The proof is live and in HD every week. Offense, defense, special teams. This is a bad team, and if they don't make a change soon it will become a bad program.

mmppcc

Sun, Oct 31, 2010 : midnight

M-Tradition, "Leaders and Best" is just silly propaganda. A lot of universities use phrases like that. No one other than a Michigan fan believes it's actually true. It's true that Michigan ran a clean enough football program until recently, but so do a lot of other schools. Just look at Paterno.

musthaved

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:56 p.m.

Greg Robinson never should have been hired in the first place and certainly shouldn't have been brought back this year. The offense is good enough to beat almost anyone in the country and the defense isn't good enough to beat anyone. There is no excuse for the kicking game, lack of size of running backs and wide outs and the 3-3-5. The holes are enormous and would be if you had NFL players on the D line. Considering our oldest QB is a sophomore and our backs average about 90lbs., this offense could be something special as the QB's gain experience. The defense needs a new scheme and DC yesterday. RR probably buys 1 more year if he throws GR overboard right now.

trigg7

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:51 p.m.

Keep up the good work, I'm making $$$ on you guys!!! Those who stay will be.500 at best. HA HA HA.

M-TRADITION

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:41 p.m.

Wrong mmppcc....Michigan was different..leaders and best and that was not about winning every game. until we hired this incompetent....ask anyone in Football pro or college...it was the shining city on the hill....the pro scouts loved to come here because it was (until we hire this unscrupulous idiot) the one place in the country where it was done right...ask anyone in football...the sit back in wonder how Michigan became thugs on probation and just like everybody else....wow is Michigan...please Brandon bring us back.If MARY SUE was in the room with that jerk Martin hired him...did she ask him about his commitment to the student athletewhat kind of kids did he turn out at WVUwhat a horrible,horrible situation for Michiganwe can blame Martin and Mary Sue..because she let Martin take her to Toledo and make her look foolish..and why is Rick Leach on sidelines...get control Dave

azwolverine

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:38 p.m.

Wow. PSU could barely move the ball all year, were down to a walk-on QB, they were a two point dog at home...and they put up 41 points and beat us by ten. Could have been 17, but Joe Pa showed mercy and took a knee inside the 5 yard line at the end. This team will still make a mediocre bowl, but if RR survives into next season, the team will be 7-5 at best. We're spinning our wheels with him as our coach and the only way we will be set back further is if we keep him. Get a new coach (Miles or Harbaugh) and we'll be on our way to improving immediately. By the way, it's interesting how Greg Robinson was a decent defensive coordinator before he came to Michigan and now he stinks. Remember former DC Scott Shafer, who stunk at UM under RR? He's doing very well for a 7-2 Syracuse team. That makes me think it's not the coordinators, it's the head coach. How else would you explain that both of them have done very well except for when working for RR?

Suzukisv

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:35 p.m.

I am willing to be pateint with RR. NOBODY WANTED TO PLAY FOR CARR. This explains the lack of talent on this team (D). I am a long time fan SICK of 3 yards and a cloud of dust (Bo never won an NC). It just does not cut it in the modern game (SEE Oregon and others). A "Michigan Man" WILL NOT Make a Difference in the NC hunt. It IS all about recruting in the modern game. STABILITY will draw the talent. Do You Realy Want Tressel Ball 2.0? SABOTAGE by the "Old Blues" has worked! Enjoy!

spartyisyourlilsister

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:33 p.m.

trigg get outta here you f'n Sparty. Don't you have your own loss to cry about?

Suzukisv

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:32 p.m.

mmppcc

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:27 p.m.

Bringing in a new coach may or may not help because football is competitive and everyone wants to win. Programs go through ups and downs. Why is that so hard to understand? There is nothing special about Michigan when it comes to that fact.

trigg7

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:27 p.m.

All in for Michigan...what a joke.

Larry Weisenthal

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:25 p.m.

This is the football equivalent of a Shakespearean tragedy. I look at RR's face, on the TV screen, and see his passion -- I see how much it means to him. I see him getting in front of his own defensive coordinator to talk to his defensive team -- not because he knows or cares about defense, but because he's hurting, deep inside. He's worked so hard. He's done the best that he can. He's already got more money in the bank that I'll ever see in my lifetime, but he's not in it for the money. He's in it because he really cares. He's bought into all the Michigan tradition. He wants to deliver for the institution, for the people who hired him, for the alumni, but, most of all, for his players and his coaching staff. He feels such responsibility for his assistant coaches. It's truly a crushing burden -- to be responsible for the very livelihoods of people who believe in him. I really like the guy, though I hate what he's done to the program. I really hate that he's destroyed what Bo built, and Moeller (a slightly flawed human, but a great football coach) actually improved, and Lloyd Carr did a darn good job of not screwing up, but this is about more than one man -- and, lots of time in life, good people, who try very hard, do indeed fail. The issue is this -- does he get one more year? A total of FOUR full years, to show that he realizes that football is only HALF offense, but that it's also HALF defense? My goodness, I do feel the man's pain, but it's not just about RR -- it's about a million other people. No, I think that three years is sufficient. Maybe not totally, 100% "fair" -- but it's the real world, and it's a world where, when one chooses to play at the highest level, at the biggest stage, one has to be strong enough to take responsibility for not meeting entirely reasonable expectations. It's just sad. Were I the A.D., I'd hate the decision I'm forced to make, but I'd make the tough decision to send RR to Colorado or Texas A&M or Mississippi or wherever and I'd do everything I could to bring Jim Harbaugh back to A2. On one of my old DVR tapes, I've got a video I shot of Harbaugh giving a pep talk to the assembled Michigan faithful on the Santa Monica pier on the eve of the 2007 Rose Bowl game. Jim had just accepted the Stanford head coaching job. Now THAT (I thought) is a guy who was just born to coach Michigan football.

Blueblood

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:23 p.m.

I've been a Michigan fan for 29 yrs. and I am so embarrassed that this university has allowed this to happen to this great program. Times up - get rid of the whole defensive caoching staff and special teams! I will always be a die hard fan.....GO BIG BLUE!!!!

Big Ten Fan

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:22 p.m.

How long are Michigan Fans willing to accept Rich Rod's excuses. Interesting that OSU, LSU, Florida, and Alabama all won National Championships within the first 3 years of getting a new coach. The difference between these programs and their coaches is that the coach went in and developed a program around the players he had. Not say I have to my style of player to win. Rich Rod is a one trick pony, that trick isn't working in the Big Ten. Rich Rod will be lucky to go 6-6 this year his third. The only reason he will win another game is Purdue is what starting a 3rd string QB. Then they can play in the Pizza Bowel at Ford Field and be blown out by another MAC team like Toledo. Time for Rich Rod to be a man and admit he is overwhelmed coaching in the Big Ten, or will the NCAA have to bring sanctions against Rich Rod so Dave can fire him for cause. Rich excuses are like asshole's everyone has one and they all stink! I feel sorry for the young men who give their all day in day out and have to be lead by a looser.

M-TRADITION

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:22 p.m.

Tradition takes years of hard work, blood, sweat and toil to build but it can be destroyed overnight Fielding Yost. To use a quote from Yost to defend this horrible coach is heresy,...RR has lead..more accurately...not lead..the greatest program in sports history to less than mediocrityYost fired Harry Kipke who he loved when he saw that Harry was not up to the taskand Harry was a quality Michigan guy not some winey pathetic self serving loserTime to act Dave.HIRE HARBAUGHhe is ready.. This is what RR came up with a week offunbelievable..this guy is really bad.I mean if you think for a minute Yost would have given this guy 3 yearsyou do not understand Michigan Tradition and who we arethe University stands for excellence on all levels..this guy does not and never belonged here another mistake by Martinthanks Bill

sevesteve

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:21 p.m.

GoBlueinNE, You couldn't have said it better. And in my opinion, as an M alum and an obvious supporter of the football program that you say you are, you have credibility and true invesment over any posters to these M stories that didn't attend M, are fans ONLY because M has been a historical winner, and couldn't find the engineering school on campus if given a map. Your program is being choked by a man that isn't up to the task...that has no clue of what awesome responsibility he assumed when taking this job. His sideline antics and expressions on national tv are sad. He has greatly tarnished the M brand. It amazes me that posters like True_Wolverine really believe what they are writing. Fielding Yost winning 6 national championships 70+ years ago is totally irrelevant and totally off the point. Yost would not welcome the likes of RR into his big house, other than to spank him as an opponent and send him on his way. I feel your pain and frustration. RR's experiment needs to be over. Too much time in the lab...not enough time in the real world. It's obvious, apparent and very difficult to witness.

mmppcc

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:18 p.m.

"...the greatest football program at any level in the entire history of team sports." You can't be serious.

orlandomichfan

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:16 p.m.

stop wishing for harbaugh, he is not the Savior to save this program..you all gotta stop drinking the kool aid..start by getting rid of Robinson.. this defense does not have a clue to what its doing...

Blueman Rick

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:11 p.m.

johnnya2

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:09 p.m.

If True Loyalty is accepting of defeat, then Yost is a loser as well. Of course, we all know that is not what he was saying. Winners do not like losing. Yost did not accept losing. True_Wolverine_Fan, you apparently think it is acceptable. I am loyal to MICHIGAN, but not if they do the wrong thing. Think of it this way. If you have a spouse and they cheated on you or treated you like crap for three years, should you remain loyal, or fire them? I never wanted a cheating loser of the coach we got int he first place. I said on day one he is a problem, and way over rated. He cost the U money to buy it his contract, which he broke, he cost the U prestige in allowing the program to have FIVE MAJOR violations. I guess the only way to be a true fan is to accept 0-12. It really doesnt matter to True_Wolverine_Fan. Hee will support whatever happens. Maybe Brian Ellerbee can come run the basketball program too.

orlandomichfan

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:09 p.m.

what do you mean by saying the defense collapsed?????? there is no defense to collapse..this is a friggin joke..i have been defending blue all year..i just cant no more..the defense is words i cant even say..this is an abomination..hope college could beat this team.. i actually threw my kitchen chair tonight and broke it,over this team...thats when i knew enough is enough..in all my 48 yrs i have never seen anything quite like this...

Jon Saalberg

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:07 p.m.

None of the changes could disguise the fact the same old Michigan defense showed up Saturday night.Nothing else to say, except if this team makes a bowl game, which is still possible, UM will give RR another year. But it will be another ugly year, because the defense isn't going to be much better in 2011. Then RR will get the ax. But no one gloat about that, because that will set UM football back how many years, in its now nearly decade long attempt to regain past glory?

3 And Out

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:06 p.m.

"True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise --- the other, loyalty." Fielding Yost "There's a sucker born every minute" - PT Barnum

Joe

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:04 p.m.

Forgot to make my other comment earlier. I'm thinking more and more that the Puke-eyes will score 100 points!!! If they don't, then we need to consider that as a "vicory" and the players should carry RR off the field on their shoulders!!!!! How sadddddddd.

Harbaugh

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:02 p.m.

I am coming to save the program!!

ShadowManager

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:02 p.m.

Richrod @ Michigan Death Clock at 11:50 pm, folks.

bleedblue96

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 11:01 p.m.

im sure you can look at some old films of michigan defense and see that they would just nickel and dime teams to death. Yet they never allowed 30 points a game on a normal bases. They had 4 down lineman and jammed receivers to dirupt their timing. Michigan's defense was always solid. The offense was plain and predictable. Now we have no defense with a good offense. I guarantee if you nickel and dime teams in the big ten they will not be putting up 30+ a game.

Shaun

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:59 p.m.

Bye Rich Rod. I was rooting for you but enough is enough. You cannot succeed in the big ten with a 3-3-5. It is time to start over with a real coach. I hope we can snag Harbaugh but it will not happen.

True_Wolverine_Fan

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:58 p.m.

Ah. I forgot. If that guy who never won a national championship at Michigan (Bo) didn't say it, it doesn't count. Stupid me. I was just quoting that guy who won 6 national championships. But what does he know? He probably wasn't even a Michigan man... Thanks for the laugh guys;-) I'll let you enjoy the loss tonight. I know you look forward to it. Night!

Joe

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:57 p.m.

I will repeat what I wrote 3 weeks ago. I understand that the defense is young, but the defense is making the exact SAME mistakes that were made week one!! You can cut it any way you want, but that is ALL ABOUT A LACK OF COACHING, starting at the top and filtering all the way down. I will not be surprised to read tomorrow that GRob has been fired, but it is way too late for that. Like others have written, I am loyal to the program and do support the team, but I can't, with a clear conscience show any support for the coaches at OUR institution!!!

david

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:57 p.m.

Amen Macabre Sunset!!! Could not have said it better myself. I just can't understand why Rich Rod continues to run this 3-3-5 gimmick defense that couldn't fight itself out of a wet paper bag. We even ran it on the goal line for one of Penn State's scores. Unbelievable. Please, no more hearing from some of Rich Rod's fans that say it is all Lloyd Carr's fault, its the officials fault, its the young players fault, blah, blah, blah. Ultimately, it all goes back to Rich Rod and he has no excuses left. Rich Rod was given a solid program that needed a bit of tweaking to put it back on top. He has acted like for 3 years that he had to build a program that never existed before he came along. Your time is up Rich Rod. If you even have a small amount of character (which I doubt), you would resign tommorow and Michigan could see if Carr would come back for the remainder of the season until a permanent replacement can be found. Either way, we-the real Michigan fans- are ready to reclaim our beloved program!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harbaugh

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:57 p.m.

Harbaugh

John

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:56 p.m.

Every coaching staff has to coach young players and deal with injuries. I'm tired of excuses. There has been no discipline shown on this team since Rich Rod has been here. Robinson is a lousy DC, but it starts from the top. To have the backing and facilities Michigan has and to perform like they do is unacceptable. Michigan football is sad. You may as well get use to the lions way. Wait until next year they will be better, and next year wait they will get better..... Well wake up people it's all about coaching today. Everyone has talent including Michigan. At Michigan I expect years that you have less talent for a coaching staff to make the pieces work and start with being fundamentally sound. Rich Rod can't do that.

larry kramer

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:55 p.m.

my wife (who is a forgiving sweetheart) noted that the defense must be truly brave, knowing that they simply don't have the athletic ability to play big ten defense. She especially admired the defensive secondary, who though inept, were truly the bravest of all.

amaizenblueballs

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:55 p.m.

Curious headline. How does the defense "collapse"? There never was any to start. Get ready for screen passes for the rest of the year on nearly every 3 down series. I do feel for the players. Not the coaches. I dread what is going to follow. I hope they can win one more so they get the bowl practices. I wish I had the confidence that all this new defensive talent getting game experience will be different next year. Perhaps with new coaches.

Sevans68

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:54 p.m.

Blueman - THAT is a great quote and I agree 100% with your comments.

4i4ora4o

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:54 p.m.

Well you got what you deserved.Back to reality weasels. RR is my idol.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:51 p.m.

TWF: Great Yost quote. Sorry. Doesn't apply in any way, shape or form to the mess that RR has made while destroying a once great football program. I love to win. Love it. Football is just too hard and too tough if youre not successful. This isnt just recreation, and the sport isnt for everybody. I just dont want to expend all this time and effort and come up short. Bo Schembechler

GoblueinNE_PA

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:50 p.m.

True Fan All of us are loyal to Michigan. I'm an alum, I love my school, but that's just it, I'm loyal to the institution, not the man sitting in the HC office. Pretending that the Michigan progam isn't a wreck and in shambles is ignoring the obvious. Sticking your head in the sand is for the meak and weak of mind. Michigan is for the leaders and best. You have to be one or the other. Time to make your choice.

maizenbluedoc

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:48 p.m.

This team was totally unprepared for this contest. RR should have noticed that DR's passes were off target. Denard hasn't been the same player since his first injury. Why not allow Forcier to get a few snaps, particularly when DR was injured on the sidelines. DR should realize RR is only using him to maintain his job. It isn't fair to ruin the career of a young man for RR's own selfishness. I have been a supporter of RR, hoping he could right the ship, but that hasn't happened, and the sad part is, it won't happen. His ideology will not work in the BIg Ten. This team is the laughing stock of the Big Ten. This is terrible for a once proud organization.

Sevans68

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:48 p.m.

True Fan - There is a difference between following blindly and loyalty. I am loyal to the program and Michigan football and I support them and let everyone know I'm a fan even when they play poorly. That doesn't mean I have to like what I'm seeing on the field and from the coaches. Poor football is poor football even if you love your team you can't deny the quality of play.

Aaron

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:46 p.m.

How many chances can we give this guy? RichRod looks confused, miserable, depressed, on the verge of tears. Greg Robinson sputters on the sideline. The players commit penalties, make basic mistakes. The defense is getting worse each game. What works in the abject Big East just does not work in the Big Ten. It's time for a change.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:45 p.m.

I thought that Rich would make a stupid/crazy call during the game and the team would melt down. I was wrong. He actually made the stupid move during the week by swapping Campbell and Washington and then playing Washington. Well, just have to wait on the sanctions to come down and then we can move on from this mistake. Go blue.

Kubrick66

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:42 p.m.

The solution is obvious. Rich Rodriguez cannot win in the Big Ten. How much longer do we have to watch our beloved Michigan struggle? Time for the fans to take back the program. GO BLUE!

Macabre Sunset

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:41 p.m.

True loyalty to Michigan means understanding that Rich Rodriguez is a abject failure, and the sooner we find a real coach, the better for the long-term health of the greatest football program at any level in the entire history of team sports.

Sevans68

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:40 p.m.

Michigan was never in this game. The offense scored late, to make the game look closer than it really was. The worst part was not being prepared after 2 weeks off. The secondary played well off the recievers (again), no pressure on the QB and couldn't stop the run, missed tackles a very uninspired performance. On a positive note we did make a field goal

True_Wolverine_Fan

Sat, Oct 30, 2010 : 10:37 p.m.