truebluefan

Sat, Jun 18, 2011 : 4:03 p.m.

My original point is you and your ilk seem to be very put off by the notion that many Michigan fans are gracious and respectful to a former coach that worked his butt off for three years to try to make Michigan football better. Seriously, is it important to point out "just not as many", like you're trying to convince anyone "on the fence" that they should not like Coach Rodriguez? And how do you REALLY know if more people wanted RR gone than wanted him to stay? Answer: you don't and you can't prove it with some worthless website poll. So let's just end this thread here. You're welcome.

Blu n Tpa

Sat, Jun 18, 2011 : 3:05 a.m.

I was raised in the South. Someone says "Thank you", you are suppose to say "You're Welcome." "Was your comment really necessary, Blu?" That's a question. Answer: Yes, I am pointing out a truth. Like others pointing out the false claim that the offense was number one in the conference. It was not. And, there ARE more fans glad to see the WCiMFH leave than those who wanted him to stay. "It's not personal, Sonny. It's business." You didn't answer my question about where the defense ranked, and it did, the last three years compared to the history of Michigan football. Please give it a rest. New coach and new future. I'm for Michigan and you're for the WCiMFH. TiM Go Blue!

truebluefan

Sat, Jun 18, 2011 : 2 a.m.

Was that comment really necessary, Blu? And what's with the smug "you're welcome"?

Blu n Tpa

Fri, Jun 17, 2011 : 3:40 p.m.

Yeah, just not as many. You're welcome.

Blu n Tpa

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 3:13 p.m.

BTW It was THIS year. As for saying something, see below.

Blu n Tpa

Fri, Jun 17, 2011 : 3:38 p.m.

Tru, where does his defenses rank within the history of Michigan football? So what he knows about defenses didn't translate to the Big Ten or against well coached football teams. Of course that was a problem since that's where Michigan plays most of their games, and where, if you noticed, he lost most of his games. Yes, I noticed that the article was about him getting a tv gig but somewhere along the way it became a "rewrite history" and "polish the tarnished veneer" of a losing coach. You are on the record of supporting the WCiMFH over the future seccess of the team you state you support. Well, what if, and this really is a trip into the "Twilight Zone", your guy is playing Michigan for a NC? Where are you on that and I can't wait to see how he adjusts to the game in the second half vs UM. TiM Go Blue!

truebluefan

Fri, Jun 17, 2011 : 3:10 p.m.

Blu - I hate to be the master of the obvious here, but, this IS an article about **RICH RODRIGUEZ**. Do you find it strange that I comment about **RICH RODRIGUEZ** on an article about **RICH RODRIGUEZ**? Please explain something to me. How does **RICH RODRIGUEZ** design offensive plays, and successful ones at that, and not know anything about defense? Fault him for hiring bad DC's, forcing the 3-3-5, delegating and not getting more involved with the defense. But your claim that he doesn't know defense is absurd.

Blu n Tpa

Fri, Jun 17, 2011 : 2:30 p.m.

Tru If you could find a way not to bring him up, then I wouldn't waste my time inserting reality. The WCiMFH has a job where he is to explain college football to fans watching their teams play. He doesn't know defenses or special teams and unless one of the teams is running a spread, read option offense, he wont know anything about that either. He has no experience with the leagues he's suppose to analyse, so he was hire based on how well he can fake it. Well, same reason he was hired at Michigan. The good news is I don't have to listen to it nor will I. Help yourself. TiM Go Blue!

truebluefan

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 : 7:43 p.m.

Great post, 1bit. So many on this board take the situation with RR like it's a personal vendetta. I agree that these people need to let it go. Can't we be civil and simply wish the guy good luck with his future endeavors and end it at that? Seriously, some people here act like he keyed their cars or something.

1bit

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 2:54 p.m.

That's absurd. He was ignominiously fired from his job. He was the head coach of the University of Michigan football team - any other job is a step down. Yes, he needs to blame himself for his own failures. Sure, he's not perfect. No, I'm not happy U of M paid a lot of money for a few losing seasons. But that doesn't mean I harbor ill will to our former coach, nor do I take any of his future successes or failures personally.

heartbreakM

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 3:28 a.m.

Down? Seems to me that with the millions that he "earned" from Michigan and his new high profile job, he is not "down". And when he actually takes responsibility for his shortcomings rather than making excuses and blaming others, we can all begin to let it go. But if I never see nor hear from him again in regards to college football, that would be fine

heartbreakM

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 1:55 a.m.

Jaxon: Based on the last 3 years, I do not think he is qualified to talk about what wins football games, actually.

Blu n Tpa

Mon, Jun 20, 2011 : 1:12 a.m.

tru You appear to be a Michigan fan who will bet against his own team, against other Michigan fans. I may have my doubts about your last statement since I don't know where "here" is.

truebluefan

Sun, Jun 19, 2011 : 8:05 p.m.

"Blu" -- I am as true a Michigan fan as anyone here.

truebluefan

Sun, Jun 19, 2011 : 8:03 p.m.

"I'll lay odds that, a la numerous other coaches who have become commentators, he never sets foot on a college football field again." Loaded statement. Are your odds 5:2 or 10000:1? If it's the latter, I'll put $100 on it. You good for it? I have the feeling that you're not. LOL!

Blu n Tpa

Fri, Jun 17, 2011 : 2:17 p.m.

trublufan is truly a fan of the WCiMFH but I have to question him/her being a true blue fan since he/she is betting against Michigan and for any team coached by the WCiMFH. To each their own. TiM Go Blue!

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 : 11:16 p.m.

I love it. While the WCiMFH is so unsure of his coaching future that he took at job at CBS, the slappies are predicting when he'll win a national championship. I'll lay odds that, a la numerous other coaches who have become commentators, he never sets foot on a college football field again. Good Night and Good Luck

truebluefan

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 : 7:54 p.m.

I'd be willing to go one further, GoBlue1984. It doesn't matter what school RR ends up at, he will have a national championship before Michigan's next national championship.

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 1:23 a.m.

I'll take that bet. Good Night and Good Luck

truebluefan

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 : 3:27 p.m.

It may not have been the number 1 offense in the B10 in every category, but I enjoyed watching RR's offense. I felt there was a ton more upside potential with the emergence of a true #1 RB. But, I've accepted the changes and look forward to a team with a better defense. No need to stomp on RR's grave at this point. And frankly, I feel sorry for those that still feel that urge.

1bit

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 7:20 p.m.

mission: I Agree that the D and special teams were abysmal. If either was better, it would've helped our offense immensely by either letting them rest or making it such that we didn't need to score a touchdown every drive. Coach Rodriguez was responsible for those aspects of the team and the losing. I agree with ThoseWhoStayUofM that he would probably make a great offensive coordinator somewhere. I'm still not convinced he's a great head coach. Maybe he'll prove me wrong.

missionbrazil

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 3:20 p.m.

1bit, I agree with you that at times DRob and our O last year was exciting, and at other times not so much. I wish the O had been able to produce in the last 4 or 5 games like it did earlier in the year. The better teams had a D plan that was able to stop our O, and unfortunately in the last 5 games we had nowhere near the best O in the BT. Believe me, I wish that we had.

1bit

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 3:07 p.m.

David: One can not be happy with RR's performance without personally attacking him. I think he tried his best. It wasn't good enough. mission: RR was a successful coach before coming to U of M. Denard Robinson broke NCAA records last year with this offense. U of M's offense last year repeatedly broke its own records for total offense - and Michigan has been playing football for a while. I am not defending his record at U of M, because I thought a coaching change was in order given the most important statistic of winning/losing record, but his "gimmicky" offenses certainly were very capable against some opponents.

missionbrazil

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 1:50 p.m.

"Rich Rodriguez is an offensive-minded coach and, within three years, restocked Michigan's entire offensive team with speed players and created the best offense in the Big 10... People who are ignorant of this need to examine the facts and adjust their outlook on who Rich Rod is and what he has done for the sport of college football." First off, the 2010 UM offense was not the BEST in the Big 10 ... 3rd best scoring O, 9th in BT in red zone efficiency, and LAST in BT in turnover margin is NOT even close to be being the BEST O in the BT ... these are what you call FACTS. Every single person who has claimed whatshisname to be an "offesnive genius" or "guru" or a "great coach" has stated things that are not true to defend him ... such as "Best offense in Big 10" or "number 2 offense in the nation" or some other "FACTS" that are not facts at all. I'd like to see you take a look at this fact and explain it away: 6-18 BT record in 3 years.

David Vande Bunte

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 1:19 p.m.

you don't understand why Michigan fans might be inclined to dislike the guy who steadily eroded a traditionally dominant defense into a national laughing stock? Really?

Blu n Tpa

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 1:01 p.m.

I'm not sure he's all that. No, I'm sure he's not. He was/is bombastic and self centered. He can't adjust to changes half to half or game to game and that's the reason why he was the WCiMFH. Anything else is just window-dressing and rewriting history,

1bit

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 3:01 a.m.

I agree with you. I'm not sure why there is so much personal vitriol against our former coach. He was not successful at Michigan for many reasons, including those you noted, and as the head coach he was ultimately responsible and lost his job. But that does not make him a bad offensive coach or a bad person. I wish him well and it sounds like he will be auditioning for another head coaching job while in the broadcast booth.

Terry Star21

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 2:07 a.m.

And everyone will know exactly what he will say next !

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 1:19 p.m.

Excellent, Blu!! Good Night and Good Luck

Blu n Tpa

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 12:48 p.m.

OK, I'll try. Before his first live game this year, the producer is going to walk up to the make-up person and ask can you do something with the WCiMFH? "Use all your powers, I don't want his mother to see him like THIS!" TiM Go Blue!

Mick

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 1:15 a.m.

Oops, you're right Ghost, as usual, I think Sonny needs to watch that darn Carlos (I had better words than that in my arsenal). Look out for toll booths too..... Hey BlunTpa, get in on this my man!

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 12:56 a.m.

Nah. It was Carlo working for the Barzini people. Good Night and Good Luck

Mick

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 12:46 a.m.

Hey Ghost, what's up buddy? Actually I think it's Moe Greene's fault, I heard he slapped Fredo around a bit, cause you know, he had to keep him in line and all............

heartbreakM

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 : 9:25 p.m.

And he was such a good judge of talent and defenses on the sideline, now he can share that with everybody. Listening to him will be as laughable as listening to Millen as referred to above. I hope to not hear ANYTHING from him.

David Vande Bunte

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 : 4:53 p.m.

Well, I am not going to bash the guy just for the sake of bashing him...that's juvenile. There are however some deep rooted issues with the program that surfaced under his watch, and I am not going to conveniently ignore them just to give the guy a break either. If any Michigan coach deserves praise, I will give it, but if they deserve criticism, I will give that too. When it comes down to it, I don't care who is the head coach, as long as they run a clean program that wins. I enjoyed the spread option, but if Michigan can win using the old school 3 yards and a pile of dust approach, I am okay with that too. Prefer the Flexbone? Triple Option? Wing T? Veer? Okay, as long as you can win with it, and win cleanly. No coach is above the program. Coaches and players come and go, but THIS IS MICHIGAN!

truebluefan

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 : 3:20 p.m.

David -- Indeed, very reasonable assessment and I agree with you 100%. And you did it with respect to RR. I applaud you because so many others on this board take every opportunity to stomp on the man's grave. In fact, they'd rather stomp on his grave than type the words RR or Rich Rod or Rich Rodriguez.

DonAZ

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 : 10:54 p.m.

David, that's a reasonable and balanced appraisal. Agree 100% with your assessment.

David Vande Bunte

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 : 9:20 p.m.

"Many Michigan fans were excited to get an innovative offensive coach." I will be the first to admit that I was one of the original RichRod slappies. I drooled over the prospect of my favorite team running more or less the same offense I have been running with them in the NCAA Football video games. I was excited to the point that I wouldn't shut up about him. But, as Michigan's offense grew exciting, the quality of the defense and special teams declined drastically. I don't fault Rich Rodriguez for the spread option offense, other than running Denard Robinson way too many times, I have no major complaints about the way the offense ran. It sure was fun to watch, and it was effective at times. (at other times, not so much). My criticisms of Rich Rodriguez will always be centered on the fact that he completely ignored 2/3rds of the football team. It's hard to win when your offense scores 35 points a game, but your defense is giving up 38. If RichRod could have brought in a big time defensive coordinator who could have recruited like Greg Mattison is doing, and we could have the killer spread option offense along side a tough, physical defense, I would have been thrilled. Going back to what I said earlier, it's much, much easier when your offense scores 35 points a game and your defense gives up 13. The spread option offense didn't get RichRod fired, the defense and special teams performances did.

truebluefan

Sat, Jun 18, 2011 : 2:05 a.m.

Maybe Ryan finally called Rich back after not answering his first three calls? Hmmmm. Mallett is not exactly known for his social graces so it's no surprise to me after all that if Rich wasn't willing to kiss Ryan's butt. THE TEAM, THE TEAM, THE TEAM

David Vande Bunte

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 : 8:06 p.m.

check your facts, truebluefan, according to Jim Mallett, Ryan's dad, said this in the CBSSports article that came out May 6th: "Ryan's the one who called (Rodriguez)," Jim Mallett continued. "He said, "Can I talk about the offense?' And then he told me, 'Daddy, (Rodriguez) never looked me in the eye.' He never visited with the family, he didn't talk to us. I never met the man. But hey, it wasn't a fit. Let's move on."

truebluefan

Thu, Jun 16, 2011 : 7:51 p.m.

David - your facts are incorrect. RR tried contacting Mallett at least three times, with no response in return. After all, this isn't the University of Ryan Mallett. I guess "the team, the team, the team" only applies when it's an opportunity to bash Rich Rod.

Terry Star21

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 2:05 a.m.

Agree with all four of you.

Edward R Murrow's Ghost

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 : 10:52 p.m.

You'll forgive Lorraine's bizarre view of history. After all, she thinks Bo rose from the dead to recommend the hiring of the WCiMFH. Good Night and Good Luck

heartbreakM

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 : 9:24 p.m.

Uh, Lorain.... You forgot the part where your hero and idol chose to call Terrell Pryor before officially resigning from WVU, talking to his team, talking to his new team (including QB Mallett), and showing Mallett how much he wanted him there. You can continue to blame LC for all of the poor performance over the past 3 years, but we all see right through your twisted logic.

XTR

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 : 8:43 p.m.

That is a funny post. But if LC did that, then LC gave UM a favor in kicking RR out of M so that M can go back to it's winning ways. hehehe

David Vande Bunte

Tue, Jun 14, 2011 : 8:37 p.m.

you mean if RichRod had tried talking to Mallett? We have been over this already, and you continue to perpetuate the same ol' lie. Mallett reached out to RichRod before talking to Lloyd Carr...and received nothing but silence in return. RichRod did not want Mallett. It's really time to stop this nonsense about Carr driving Mallett out, you know its a blatant falsehood.

Terry Star21

Wed, Jun 15, 2011 : 2:03 a.m.

And you can bet he will remind us and everyone who will listen !