Ohio State's Urban Meyer says he won't use Michigan's name, calls recruiting comments 'slander'
Michigan football coach Brady Hoke has drawn fire from Ohio State supporters for his knack of dropping "State" from the school's name.
Now, it appears newly minted Buckeyes coach Urban Meyer has adopted something similar.
Meyer calls Michigan "that team up north" on Ohio State's football facility schedule, and also omitted the block "M" where other logos are pictured.
Thursday, Meyer took it a step further during an interview with WKRK-FM (92.3) in Cleveland by saying "we don't use their name" at all.
Ohio State football coach Urban Meyer.
Associated Press
Meyer was at the center of controversy recently after Wisconsin coach Bret Bielema and Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio publicly criticized his recruiting practices. He has flipped eight recruits to the Buckeyes, including the Spartans' top recruit, defensive lineman Se'Von Pittman, and Badgers offensive lineman Kyle Dodson.
Bielema has called Meyer's recruiting "illegal," and Dantonio said it was "unethical."
"I was very angry," Meyer said of those characterizations. "When you use those terms, something like illegal, that couldn't be further from the truth. That doesn't happen here, and if it did, we would make a change.
"I was very angry that would even be brought up, and there were fellow Big Ten coaches who were angry as well, and the commissioner (Jim Delaney) was very angry, so to have that make the presses, especially when it's inaccurate, legally you're not allowed to do that. That's slander. You can't use someone's name and then use terms like that. It's very wrong, but we've moved on."
Meyer also commented on how Big Ten play stacks up with play in the SEC, where he coached at Florida from 2005-10.
"I don't think it's that far off. I think it's cyclical. There will be a time when the Big Ten will go get that crystal ball back — I'm hoping sooner than later. ... The thing right now, you look at the recruiting rankings, not that that means a whole lot, but you know what? It does. And there's a lot of SEC teams right now in the top 25, where I think the Big Ten has to get up in there. If you want to have great, great teams and win bowl games, you have to get you some of those players. And, I imagine that's not rocket science. ... I think that's the one area where I do see a difference."
Click here to listen to the full interview.
Kyle Meinke covers Michigan football for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at 734-623-2588, by email at kylemeinke@annarbor.com and followed on Twitter @kmeinke.
Comments
bengula
Thu, Jul 11, 2013 : 11:31 p.m.
Urban did the same thing in Utah. Referring to BYU as "The Team Down South". He ratcheted up a very intense rivalry to something that no longer became a game, it got ugly. He effectively pitted the local community against each other and creating a terrible environment for kids to emulate. I think it is really sad and degraded our local society. Hoping this won't happen to you guys too.
azwolverine
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 : 7:15 p.m.
Meyer used Michigan's name a LOT during the Nebraska/Michigan game he was announcing. Hoke wouldn't have. Hoke is the real deal. By the way, during that same UM/Nebraska game, Meyer swore there were no talks going on between him and OSU. While I don't want to be accused of 'slander' here, it appears he was lying. As I said, he's nothing like Coach Hoke.
UM757881
Mon, Feb 13, 2012 : 8:11 p.m.
Come on AZWOLVERINE, he was telling the "truth". There were no talks going on between him and tosu at the time of the UM/Neb game. They were over, done, sealed and delivered. :)
rej73
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 : 4:51 p.m.
Does anyone know how many Oscar Meyer, the ex-florida hotdog and current tosu hc, has oversigned this year? I can't find anything about it, but aren't there rules about oversigning in the Big Ten as opposed to the free-for-all SEC?
whatsupwithMI
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 : 2:57 a.m.
Could someone please state the issue here- restated in logical fashion? This is the midwest, so I'll use the term "hamburger essay"- this this article is long enough to qualify. Thanks! in advance (for the next article).
Hebner
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 : 1:44 a.m.
This is making me feel like I need to convert to not wearing red at all, just like Coach Hoke. I will pledge to only wear red when l wear my Redwing jersey.
Tom
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 11:22 p.m.
This rivalry really doesn't matter now. The two dominant football programs in the Big 10 are Michigan State and Wisconsin. The roads to Indianapolis and Pasadena go through Madtown and East Lansing!
rocco
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 11:12 p.m.
Look, we're dealing with a recruiting genius here. Look how long it took Michigan basketball recruiting to recover from our little scandal. Beilein is still using it as an excuse for poor recruiting (e.g., no depth after 5 years). I think we have 9 recruits this year from Ohio. I wonder what that number will look like next year. I don't think Meyer is caught up on recruiting some abstract notion of an "Ohio Man" like Carr and Brady were/are at UofM. He just wants the best rated players in American playing for him. If you can get a five star player like Kalis (or Woodson), you take him. You go after him. Developing three star players is a not the way to go. Ask Saban and Miles. I'm shocked that Meyer out recruited Michigan this of all years. My guess is that he will continue to do that in the future as Hoke continues to build a team with "Michigan men." We will see whose strategy works in the end.
Major
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 7:59 p.m.
Coach Hoke shows nothing but class, the coach from that team down south, everyting but!
SalineBob
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 6:16 p.m.
Wait a minute. Isn't "Ohio" the Ohio University Bobcats? And "the team up north" should be Northern Michigan. And Memphis and Boise State are joining the Big East. Next thing you know it will be dogs and cats living together. We won't have to worry about it anyway after December 21, 2012.
Trisha
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 5:53 p.m.
Oooooooooo!! WHO CARES!!! He isn't introducing anything new. They've been calling us "the state up north" since what...forever! I think he stole that idea from ole' Woody!! How about a little creativity!! Let's see...hmmmmm...MWAAAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAA! Big deal. GO BLUE!!
boo
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 5:51 p.m.
i love it. the more hatred the better. bring it on boys.
vaseline
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 5:42 p.m.
Kyle and other commentors, A little off topic here, but I was wondering if anyone has contemplated G.Mattison moving on after this year or next. He has a track record of moving around every few years. Although he is getting older, I haven't seen any comments form him indicating he will make this his final stop or anything. I was just wondering about this.
MRunner73
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 10:18 p.m.
Given his salary, around 7 figures, his age and success in Ann Arbor, this should be his last stop. If he stays, perhaps through 2013. That would make it three years then hello:"Gone Fishin" sign.
MjC
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 4:20 p.m.
That sure should scare us, eh?
Tru2Blu76
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 4:04 p.m.
No one's mentioned: after a brief hiatus the Rivalry is BACK! Nice to see highly rated coaches on both sides (Hoke at Michigan and, you know, U.... at O...). In Ann Arbor we have the Arb, in Colobus they have the Urb. Lovely. ;-) I think though that among B1G's other coaches, what U.... at O... in Colobus says may anger them but stick with them at the same time. U.... at O... in Colobus is calling on them to step up their recruiting and that will improve the B1G's record and reputation in the long run. U.... at O... may end up regretting that he sparked such a revolution; with Michigan, Wisconsin and even that team up north State beating U.... at O... on a regular basis. Icons like Michigan's Block M are for instant recognition. Same goes for O...'s "block O." It may prove a mistake to remove the Block M icon from U.... at O...'s schedule because, to them, it's an object of hate.
Lorain Steelmen
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:51 p.m.
81Wolverine....Great post, man! I can tell you, as a former US Steel, steelworker, (from ohio), that this clown, Meyer, produces more 'hot air' than the COMBINED, US Steel, Lorain Works did, in it's 'heyday'. That is, all FIVE Blast Furnaces, TWELVE Open Hearths, the Rolling Mill, and FOUR Seamless Pipe Mills!!!!!! Right now, Meyer, is 'running his mouth', to try to 'create the impression' in Columbus, that he is 'one of them'. This is ALL for local consumption, in ohio. But the truth IS, that Meyer is still an 'outsider', just a flim-flam man, an opportunist, who is 'cashing in', on osu's AD. Like all phonies, he has done a great job recruiting. And anyone around the Columbus area, KNOWS, that osu has been 'on the edge' in recruiting, since Tressel showed up. (And Mark Dantonio was a big part of that 'seemy culture'!) But Urban Meyer is NO Jim Tressel, in terms of 'coaching', (whom I had NO respect for), and certainly, Meyer is definitely, NO Woody Hayes, (whom I DID respect.) I think it's safe to say, that while osu may continue to attract athletes, it will NOT attract solid, good character, student-athletes. Meanwhile, if Hoke continues to run the Wolverine program, in the manner that Bo Shembechler, would have run it, (and I think he WILL), then Meyer will have the SAME results, that John Cooper had, in this series. Here's the bottom line: Hoke, Mattison & Co, will 'grow' tough, hard nosed, football players, that will NOT back off from anybody, anywhere, anytime. We won't hear any 'trash-talk' coming from Schembechler Hall, but we WILL see, tough kids, taking names, and kicking backsides, for MANY years to come. And when that happens, the silence in 'the Shoe', will be stunning....I've been down there MANY times in the past, and I've seen it with my own eyes. The only sound we will hear is 'The Victors', from the UM band, playing into 'B Deck', as it reverberates throughout 'the Shoe', and DRIVES the buckeye fans insane! I can't wait! Go Blue!
MRunner73
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 5:02 p.m.
Several good points to your post. What amazes me is how the ohio fans are buying into this guy (UM), hook, line and sinker. And yes, they will sink down to the bottom of pond with Mr Big (said UM) much sooner than later. The man never impressed me, past or present. Too bad Earl Brude was once known as Darth Vader becaue UM is whole Evil Empire.
HeimerBoodle
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:25 p.m.
That's ok Urban, your initials are tribute enough, I agree that anything else would be overkill.
M Hendrickson
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:46 p.m.
7 years my friends. 7 long difficult year we've waited for Mr Hoke. If Myers thinks all of a sudden awakening ghosts from the past by referring to us as a "team up north" is somehow going to motivate his team - fine go for it, but it's weak and lacks originality. I have news for you myers: we will beat notre dame, we will beat michigan state. But ultimately we have a 1 game season. Come November no one cares what you call us - or what our record is. On that cold, dark dreary day in November, in that stadium shaped like a toilet bowl seat. We will occupy your stadium with MAIZE, I will be there and will cheer until the last damn snap - There is NO SWEETER SOUND than STUNNED SILENCE in OHIO on game day
catfishrisin
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:02 p.m.
Especially since it happens so rarely..
Dale McNamee
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:43 p.m.
Urban Meyer...the epitome of childish.
Matt Patercsak
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:57 p.m.
I like that their omitting the block M. I think we should put the OSU logo on everything. I have three goals for team 133 give Alabama a wake up call silence MSU fans for an eternity make Urban Meyer 0-5 against Michigan
MRunner73
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:45 p.m.
Amen.
Ross
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:43 p.m.
I like how he publicly goes on record to say it's illegal for someone else to have said publicly that what he did was illegal.
juanabe
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:13 p.m.
Live in great fear Urban!
Dwight Howard
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 12:38 p.m.
To my brothers in Maize and Blue, do not underestimate the impact his guy will have. He just recruited the best defensive class I have ever seen and is innovative on offense. The war is back on.
firstfolio
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 12:19 p.m.
The things people choose to care about. Honestly.
osubetterthanu
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 12:05 p.m.
You guys have no idea what is coming in the next few years... a storm is brewing in columbus so get ready for it ann arbor. And for all you spartys out there-yours is coming too. I atleast respect the hell out of UM but you guys in green, starting with your coach are really starting to annoy me and not for the right reasons.
RWBill
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 4:26 p.m.
That storm is additional NCAA investigations.
MRunner73
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:44 p.m.
I am glad you have raised the bar so high for yourselves. Yes, your Buckeyes will improve but no, you won't get perfection. Sad part is, we DO have an idea what's coming but the ohio fan base does not in regards to your competition. So keep trying.
Silly Sally
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 11:15 a.m.
UM (Urban Meyer) A hard worker? He bailed out on Florida. - You call that commitment? An earlier MSU fan posted this: "..go route (sic) for state..." Wow, doesn't Michigan State have a bonehead English requirement? A "route is a road or a pathway, not a way of rooting for one's team. This poor Spartan fan must have meant "root". He can root for his Spartans (cheer them on) and pray that someday they beat the Wolverines (create a rout), and then on his return, he can drive from East Lansing to Jackson to visit his parents on Route 27 (a road).
vaseline
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 5:37 p.m.
Way to go SS, you caught someone's usage mistake in the comment section. You got them so good!!!!
Silly Sally
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 4:38 p.m.
Duh, I went to State
JimB
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:50 p.m.
Score board!!!!
Jeff Punch
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 10:46 a.m.
Intentionally calling a team by a name that isn't quite right or refusing to say the name has the same effect. It draws attention to itself, which is obviously what both coaches want to do. They want their players to focus on that game the entire season. Every time it is mentioned the entire year the player has to think to himself "heh heh, we don't say their name". Not only does this focus them on The Game, but since it is the last regular season game it focuses them the entire year. To me the issue of recruiting is the interesting one. It sounds like he broke some unwritten gentleman's agreement or perhaps violated some interpretations of NCAA rules by his flipping recruits that already committed. I suspect you aren't supposed to badger recruits after they commit, and Mayer did that or appeared to (sorry for the pun).
Silly Sally
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 10:53 a.m.
A "gentleman"?
MRunner73
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 10:07 a.m.
Too much media attention. So what if Michigan is called that school up north. It is all trivial. Seems Bo and Woody had something similar going back in the day. If there were only the media attention than as there is now. Whatever...
ohiowolverine
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 9:28 a.m.
When OSU fans yell out O-H no one comes back with State, when the band writes script OHIO it doesn't have state at the end. What's the big deal? You do it so why shouldn't our coach. GO BLUE! TiM!
Kai Petainen
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 5:25 a.m.
""we don't use their name" at all." ok. so we have a bunch of adults playing Harry Potter. voldemort. voldemort. voldemort. can we play some Quidditch? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quidditch" rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quidditch</a>
Hailmary
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 5:06 a.m.
Sounds like the game is on but Gee's Urbon, couldn't you come up with a better line? If I didn't know better I'd say you sound tired. There is no doubt in my mind that we can beat ohio as long as Denard learns how to pass between now and then. After hearing or reading what urban said I have to believe that urban is one tired dude.
Silly Sally
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 10:51 a.m.
He is "tired" He had to quit being head coach at the University of Florida, "for health reasons"
modeltim
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:59 a.m.
Gee, Urban's not very original. Woody Hayes used to refer to Michigan as "that team up North".
nvragain
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:04 p.m.
Gee, Brady Hoke is not very original, Bo used to refer to OSU as "the team from Ohio".
Basic Bob
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:03 p.m.
It's tradition.
Scott
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:49 a.m.
I like it. Meyer is like Hoke a hard worker. Doesn't depend on "gentlemen's agreements". We call them Ohio and he calls us 'that school up north". Stuff shirt "trust baby" Michigan men can just go route for State or Wisconsin if competition hurts their sensibilities.
vaseline
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:57 p.m.
neither side here, but "pray someday they beat the wolverines"? Hasn't that happened aal to lately?
Silly Sally
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 11:09 a.m.
UM (Urban Meyer) A hard worker? He bailed out on Florida. @ Scott - You call that commitment? "..go route (sic) for state..." Wow, doesn't Michigan State have a bonehead English requirement? A "route is a road or a pathway, not a way of rooting for one's team. @Scott must have meant "root". Scott can root for his Spartans (cheer them on) and pray that someday they beat the Wolverines (create a rout), and then on his return, he can drive from East Lansing to Jackson to visit his parents on Route 27 (a road).
BornInA2
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:47 a.m.
Y-a-w-n I'd wager $5 this new coach at tsio is gone in five years or less.
nvragain
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1 p.m.
$5, if only the wager wasn't so much I would be willing to take you up on that
mun
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:31 a.m.
"Meyer calls Michigan "that team up north" on Ohio State's football facility schedule" That team up north? That is so 1972.
B2Pilot
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:06 a.m.
Hey UM (urban Meyer) yea it's not unethical that you had 2 coaching staffs 1 for recruiting and 1 for coaching all while your supposed to be on probation seems perfectly reasonable to any two faced, back stabbing, snake belly low life. Bottom Line TALK IS CHEAP LETS SEE WHAT see what happens next fall
Scott
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:50 a.m.
It was unethical of the NCAA to allow it. He is just the guy who got handed a golden egg.
treetowncartel
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:20 a.m.
UHm, MIchigan had two coaching staffs when Lloyd retired and Rodriguez took the job. Do your homework.
Uber_Jones
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:02 a.m.
Originally Urban threatened to hold his breath until he turned blue if anybody @ tUOS says the word "Michigan", but now he refuses to turn blue. He is also in the process of legally changing his last name, he refuses to use his own initials U.M.,
sc8
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:42 a.m.
"Hey, Urban Meyer....we need to drum up some business." "Hey Brady, yes we do." "I hate you....I'm putting that out in the press." "I hate you too....you're that 'team from up north' that Woody talked about." "Okay....sounds like the Ten Year War again....we'll sell tickets and sponsorships." "Good luck against Alabama. You'll need it."
Buster W.
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 12:45 a.m.
Both OSU and UM are being childish. What are the tickets going to say? "That team up North vs. The Ohio State University"? "That team in Ohio vs. University of Michigan"? Just come out and use the team's name and how you can't stand them. The is an old bit that needs to be put to rest.
Scott
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:52 a.m.
Another trust baby Michigan man.
Silly Sally
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:55 a.m.
Works for me. I believe Brady Hoke says, "Ohio". That is a name. Of course the tickets will have the formal , legal names. Thinking otherwise is being silly.
Jim Osborn
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 12:09 a.m.
Who dislikes UM (Urban Meyer) more, Michigan fans, or Florida Gator fans who saw a good coach leave, for "health reasons" and then end up at Ohio of all places, to coach once again. He ditched the Gators to go to Ohio. That hurts. I like both Florida and Michigan, having rooted for Michigan and Lloyd Carr when the Gators last played Michigan. I was glad that Carr won his last game and really glad now that Meyer has lost twice to Michigan. I can't wait for this November's game, when "that team up North" will hand Ohio another loss.
D21
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 11 p.m.
"I don't think it's that far off. I think it's cyclical. There will be a time when the Big Ten will go get that crystal ball back — I'm hoping sooner than later. ... The thing right now, you look at the recruiting rankings, not that that means a whole lot, but you know what? It does. And there's a lot of SEC teams right now in the top 25, where I think the Big Ten has to get up in there. If you want to have great, great teams and win bowl games, you have to get you some of those players. And, I imagine that's not rocket science. ... I think that's the one area where I do see a difference. The difference being...Cheating, cheating and more cheating! Sorry Urby, this is B1G, why don't you and Gee move to SEC.
timski
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 11 p.m.
better tatto for you down their, your coaches enishels U..M......
D21
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:41 p.m.
Hey Kyle and fellow Michigan Men, Check out this blog from a few years ago about Urban Meyer. <a href="http://www.chaddscott.com/cfb/urbanblight.html" rel='nofollow'>http://www.chaddscott.com/cfb/urbanblight.html</a> Especially the part where then Florida HC Urby "lied" to a Michigan Do read this blog. I am just glad that Urby isn't president of this country.
catfishrisin
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:06 p.m.
Scott, Most of the trolls on this site probably have no idea that UM offers anything except football.
Scott
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:59 a.m.
The only problem with this blog is it's all hearsay. I hear some rumor and then I say it to everyone. I can say a guy said this and a guy said that. How do we know any of it is true? I graduated from Michigan. My education taught me the difference between facts and hearsay. What classes did my fellow Michigan take? Go Blue
D21
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:39 p.m.
Wow, Urby wants to turn B1G into SEC and more. Urby certainly makes Danner looks like a choirboy. Ubranblight, you will regret your words and your reign will be nothing less than infamy (as arrogant as Gordon Gee) GO BLUE!
timski
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:37 p.m.
toledo ? with the traid we did for the U.P of Michigan,take a little copper to a stinktown tatto parler and put their coaches name on them all.... that's all on a bad track down their.....
rushvillerocket
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:34 p.m.
All I know is, well, amongst other things...is that "coach in Ohio" didn't win anything without Tim Tebow. Like him (Tim) or not, he carried Florida for 4 years while "U.M." took all the credit and got/gets paid. He doesn't have a Tim Tebow down there, nor will there ever be another.
Tom
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 11:21 p.m.
This rivalry really doesn't matter now. The two dominant football programs in the Big 10 are Michigan State and Wisconsin. The roads to Indianapolis and Pasadena go through Madtown and East Lansing!
Tom
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 11:20 p.m.
Tebow was recruited by Meyer; Chris Leak by Zook. Meyer had both during Tebow's freshman/national championship year. Don't confuse yourself with the facts GoldenBlue!
goldenblue
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:21 a.m.
Dont forget Ron Zook brought Tebow to Florida.
The Black Stallion3
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:34 p.m.
Meyer.......I thought he ran a grocery store? What happened with that?
Meg
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 11:24 a.m.
@garrisondyer: Right? That occurred to me when I moved here. Because even the logo is essentially the same. But FM is owned by Kroger.
garrisondyer
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 12:10 a.m.
Out here in Seattle, believe it or not, there is a store that's almost exactly like Meijer that's called Fred Meyer. I think it's a totally different Fred Meyer, though the slight change in the last name spelling always seems suspicious to me.
A2D2
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:09 p.m.
And another thing...... Look at that picture of him (above).......I just caught a fish THIS biggggggg. And another thing........ Is it just me, or is it poetic justice that Urban Meyer has to go through his entire life with our initials?????? I'm thinking conspiracy theory. Where Oliver Stove (whose initials are OS.......spooky)
Marcus Ray was Right!
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:21 p.m.
That wasn't him saying, "I just caught a fish THIS biggggggg." It was him saying, "A typical skinny OSU co-ed's rear end is about this WIDE!"
A2D2
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:06 p.m.
And another thing........... I'm glad that the name of our lovely state won't be sullied by being uttered by the likes of theose who reside near the "old and stanky".
javajolt1
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:05 p.m.
This is good rivalry stuff......I have no problem with Ohio hating Michigan and Michigan hating Ohio. I think next year's game should be played for the return of that strip of land they call Toledo. Bring it on!
EyeHeartA2
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:35 a.m.
oops, sorry, that was for Tom, below, not javajolt1
EyeHeartA2
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:33 a.m.
6-4 v MOOOOOOOOOOOO UUUUUUUU the last 10 years. that was the point. <a href="http://www.uofmrejects.com" rel='nofollow'>www.uofmrejects.com</a>
cutty240
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 1:02 a.m.
I wouldn't bring up Toledo.They beat you Michigan a couple of years ago,AT HOME.Like a couple of other people said on here.WIN ON THE FIELD FIRST.THEN HE WILL FIGURE OUT WHERE YOUR FROM,SOON
garrisondyer
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 12:07 a.m.
I'd rather not lose the U.P. though... I much prefer it to the Toledo Strip.
A2D2
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:03 p.m.
"When you use those terms, something like illegal, that couldn't be further from the truth. That doesn't happen here, and if it did, we would make a change." He's right, sort of. A more correct quote would have been, "That doesn't happen here, but if it did and we got caught like we did last time, then we'd make a change". And by the way, if UM is "the team up north", then MSU has to be "the team up norther". Nebraska has to be "the team out west-est", since Iowa is "the team our west-er" and Illinois is "the team out west a little bit, but not so much."
UM757881
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:33 p.m.
SEC Fan, It's called recruiting, not poaching. Pretty much EVERY coach / school keeps recruiting right up to time the kids sign on the dotted line. Both to keep their recruits from changing their minds and to, possibley, pick up a guy who does change his mind. As long as the coach / school is honest in what they tell the kid it's simply called recruiting. For example that if the kid commits, they will have a scholarship available for them. Of course in the SEC they tell kids that they have scholarships when they commit, then on signing day tell them "Oop, we really don't have enough to go around. So what, we lied to you. Have a good life". In the Big 10 that's called "unethical" and in the SEC it's called "just win - screw the kid, gotta get those wins".
SEC Fan
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:14 a.m.
not like UM didn't "poach" Ohio St." committed recruits...oh wait...there is another article on this site about that, isn't there. but I guess it's ok when UM does it.
Marcus Ray was Right!
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:25 p.m.
Interesting he did not address the word or connotation "unethical".
MyBoyBlue
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 9:43 p.m.
"When you use those terms, something like illegal, that couldn't be further from the truth. That doesn't happen here...." ummm; yes it does Urban; illegal stuff does happen there. Thats how you got their remember. By Sweater Vest doing illegal acts contrary to NCAA rules, you landed the job. Remember, no bowl next year because of illegal things.
SEC Fan
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:13 a.m.
good thing UM isn't on probation...oh wait...that's right. you are.
Michael Christie
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 10:28 p.m.
and it happens at Michigan too. you kill me with being so arrogant and amnesia must be setting in. FAB 5 Tractor Trailer - Escalade how many players have been in jail? didn't one just get released from the team for stealing? What we need is to stop telling on each other and acting like baby's when things don't go the way we want it.
smokeblwr
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 9:36 p.m.
It's awesome. Every rivalry needs characters that the other side hates. It's gonna be a showdown in Stinktown in November. Hoo-ah!
ArthGuinness
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 7:36 p.m.
Yup, and U-M will beat UM, repeatedly and without mercy.
81wolverine
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 9:32 p.m.
Who cares what he thinks or calls us? Meyer produces more hot air than a U.S. Steel blast furnace. Besides, I don't believe his denials anyway. He's shown a repeated propensity to lie in the past and leopards don't change their spots. Michigan will do their talking this fall in Columbus in the Snake Pit.
catfishrisin
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:59 p.m.
Can't wait to return to normalcy after that blip last November as that "team up north" returns to its rightful place of mediocrity. Go Bucks!
treetowncartel
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 9:24 p.m.
Love to see the followers and second rate mimicking the Leaders and best. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
azwolverine
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 : 2:19 p.m.
Yeah...It's already clear that Hoke leads and Meyer simply tries to keep up.
Psudolus
Thu, Feb 9, 2012 : 9:23 p.m.
Since Urban is not saying the word "Michigan" is he going to refer to MSU as "That Team Up North State?" God, this guy is really insufferable!
azwolverine
Sat, Feb 11, 2012 : 2:17 p.m.
SEC...did you mean to call us hippopotamus or hypocrites? Or both?
SalineBob
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 6:22 p.m.
If Michigan calls Ohio State "Ohio" then perhaps they should also call Michigan State "Michigan".
UM757881
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:16 p.m.
Get a life SEC FAN. Psudolus didn't say Urban's not using "Michigan" at all was "insufferable", in fact in the "old days" of the rivalry Bo called tOSU "that school down south" and Woody called U of M "that school up north". He did say that Urban's whole demeanor is insufferable. And Psudolus did raise a good point, what IS Urban going to call Michigan State University without using "Michigan"? As a Michigan fan who lives in Michigan, I usually call them "State". Now I suppose you now think I'm slamming tOSU, OSU BSU, CSU, WashingtonSU,mWayneSU, etc., etc, etc. but I'll take that risk. Do you SEC guys call them "Florida" or "University of Florida"? "Miami" or "University of Miami, Florida" (hate to confuse them with Univ of Miami Ohio)? Even though I'm a Michigan grad and fan, one of my uncles was a varsity diver at The Ohio State University (happy?) and he ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS called his school "Ohio". I suppose you think he was "disrespecting" his own school. A lot of other TOFU, I mean tOSU, fans I know use "Ohio". By the way, Brady Hoke grew up in Ohio and always referred to tOSU as "Ohio" as do a lot of Ohioans.
Rod Johnson
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 3:52 a.m.
Ladies and gentlemen, an SEC education on display. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates" rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates</a>
JustMyOpinion
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:31 a.m.
Perhaps we are, but at least we can capitalize words correctly. (ahem)
SEC Fan
Fri, Feb 10, 2012 : 2:12 a.m.
oh yeah, and bastardizing Ohio St.'s name is ok and not "insufferable"? you guys are such Hippocrates.