djuninho

Mon, Nov 16, 2009 : 1:16 p.m.

@ mun: In addition to App St., Dollar Bill also scheduled Toledo last year... After those debacles, he chose Del. St. for this year and UConn in 2010... Cupcakes when compared to the aggressive scheduling of the past... Will RR ever have to face tough road games like Lloyd did (Oregon, Washington, UCLA, Colorado, etc.)? DOUBT IT! Dollar Bill wants to avoid further embarrassment for the program and criticism toward his homebody RR...

Allinformichigan

Mon, Nov 16, 2009 : 12:49 p.m.

azwolverine, Maybe you got something here but I think getting rid of him now sets us back bigtime in the recruiting process. I say give him one more year or at least until we can get in a solid recruiting class. If we fire him now I believe we will lose the commitments we have plus the possible (very talented) ones coming in to visit this weekend. The only way I would fire him now if we have major violations with the NCAA and then I will personally beat the livin sh!t out of RR for single-handley screwing up our tradition. Although I still think RR can get it done....I loved that offense of West virginia when he was coaching. Althoug I do think he might be a little overwhelmed and possibly got in over his head. I think he should get one more shot...then get rid of him

rightmind250

Mon, Nov 16, 2009 : 10:47 a.m.

Hey oldman, You might want to look a little deeper. The majority of the offensive improvement came against teams that would have trouble against a decent high school team. Have you watched the games? Tate has the arms of a little girl. I have never seen smaller arms on a college kid. It is a minor miracle he has made it to the last game of the season. He has now been on campus a full year. I thought Barwis was supposed to make men out of boys. What a joke. I have some advice for Barwis. Cut back on the caffiene and smokes. You are a complete mess.

oldmanblue

Mon, Nov 16, 2009 : 10:39 a.m.

As for the offensive non improvements. In 2008 for total team offense we finished dead last with an average of 143 yards a game. This year heading into week twelve we are first with 195 yards a game. As for total rushing yards last year we ended at 7th with 1771 total yards. This year heading into the final game we have 2154. You do the math, or shall I go on. How about team pass yards? Last year dead last with 143 a game. This year 8th with 195 a game. There is still room for improvement but to say that we have not improved would just be stupid.

rightmind250

Mon, Nov 16, 2009 : 10:38 a.m.

This is classic. Martin comparing Paul Johnson to Richrod. This guy has got to be a complete idiot. UM has obviously made the 1sdt step towards recovery by getting rid of this goof. There is a great more work to do ( like finding a respected coach)but it will get done. Many great teams Texas, Florida, ND, Oklahoma, Nebraska etc. have made bad coaching hires, but eventually they get it right. It may take a couple hires before they find the right guy. The infrastructure needs to be put into place. A new AD that has the schooling and experience to run a professional organization. Hiring the local slumb lord has obviously cost UM dearly.

Anonymous Coward

Mon, Nov 16, 2009 : 7:44 a.m.

As a fair-weather fan, I've been sitting on the sidelines and wondering what I can contribute. I've concluded "not much" but am nonetheless boldly putting forth two suggestions from behind the cover of anonymity: 1) It's all the band's fault - they haven't adjusted to the no-huddle offense and keep cutting off their pep pieces before the crowd can get into it, depriving our boys of much needed support. Speed up the tempo, or fire the band director! 2) If I actually owned a Michigan flag, I would fly it upside down to signal my distress with the program, only righting it when we next beat a Big 10 team on the field. I'm not actually taking any kind of stand on whether RR should stay or go, just signalling my displeasure. I have a vision of the Crisler parking lot next weekend full of tailgaters flying their flags upside down and perhaps underlining to the University that we're not happy. What do you think?

railroad

Mon, Nov 16, 2009 : 12:27 a.m.

RR took over a program that was already established and had a winning tradition. The expectation was for him to pick up and build where Lloyn Carr left off. Instead RR has reinvneted the wheel with the Mich. program implementing his style of game. This was no secret before he was hired. Because of this fans are going to have to endure the consequences when you build a program from gound up utilizing fresh and soph as your key players. The biggest problem RR faces currently is discovering a def. that is can play average. Off. is almost there.

mun

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 11:45 p.m.

If my memory is correct, Billy was also the one who scheduled Appalachain State, which hastened the departure of Lloyd Carr.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 7:45 p.m.

Actually Raddes, I believe the vast majority of Michigan fans don't agree with you or Oldman or Tater or whomever. The only bastion of support for the idiot is Mgoblob. You are right about one thing though, there are millions of people out there that hope we keep this moron as our coach, they just happen to root for other teams in the Big 10

raddes

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 7:35 p.m.

Hey Oldmanblue, Don't worry---the vast majority of UM fans agree with you and look at the situation realistically. This is completely frustrating to watch however time will only be the true measurement for RR and his program. People on this message board simply have no patience. Jim Harbaugh would have already been thrown under the bus by "our" fans along with Brian Kelley. It's funny how people on this board were up in arms about a Big East coach and yet they're screaming for Kelley!?! By the way, for our extremely sensitive Wolverine fans, Kelley is off the table considering he was yelling (what a sideshow, huh?) at a coach during a heated game with WV Friday night. Can't have that on our sidelines--maybe it's a Big East thing!?! Ironically Oldman, everyone will eventually get what THEY want: RR will get HIS time in and either turn the program completely around (which means a lot of users changing their screen names) or he fails and is fired (get ready for the I Told You So's). However, I will assure you of one thing--AA will continue to slant articles so people will fill their message boards and showcase power (Fire RR Now!) they DO NOT even have! Go Blue!

azwolverine

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 5:46 p.m.

oldman, our offensive problem has not been solved, as you say. Let's look more closely. We scored a ton of points early this season against mediocre (ND @ 6-4) to awful (0-9 EMU) teams. Since the Indiana game, Michigan has scored 20 vs MSU, 21 vs Iowa (7 scored by defense made 28), 10 vs PSU, 13 vs Illinois, and 17 vs Wisconsin (again, 7 by D made 24). I disregard the 36 against Purdue since we actually scored LESS than the 42 we had last season with Threet at QB. If you average how much we've scored in the 5 Big Ten losses outside Purdue, we only average 16 points per game. That's not good. In fact, that's bad. While our defense is pathetic, our offense isn't much better. Everyone credits RR for the offense. Guess what? So do I. That's part of why I want to see him gone.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 4:42 p.m.

Oldmanblue You again make the foolish assumption that wanting to rid the program of a cancer in RichRod is some how "turning our back on the program". It's not, it's simply calling it as it is. RR is single handedly destroying this program and getting rid of him is the right thing FOR the program. I'd bet good money, you were one of the folks calling for LC to step down. Did that mean that you had turned your back on the program??? The idiot has done nothing to warrant more time on the job. The dearth of talent on the team lies at his feet. He's ran off more kids than he's graduated. All we're doing by allowing him to stay is delaying the inevitable, which is his dismissal after compiling a losing record. He will not put up a winning record next year. That's not me wishing for the team to lose, that's just giving an honest assessment of the schedule. Why would you supposed "friends of the program" want to do that? Why would you want to have the program, my alma mater, have a losing record next season? What is it about this guy that makes you want to push the program through its worst 3 year(or god forbid 4 year) stretch in history? It can't be because you think he's going to some how turn it around. I'm hearing he'll now win "8 games" in year 4, according to the koolaid drinkers. Wow, just wow. A whole 8 games in year 4. LC would have had that many wins each of the past 2 years. Heck, I think Brady Hoke would have had 8 wins each of these past 2 years. Of course, those guys wouldn't have chased off a bunch of talented kids, like the idiot did. I hope that MSC comes to her senses and makes the right call after we get demolished next week.

Legend

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 4:41 p.m.

Comparing Stanford pre-Harbaugh to Michigan pre-RR is like comparing apples to brake pads. Harbaugh took over a 1-11 team, RR took over a team that had 8 wins and 11 the year before. The challenges in recruiting for Stanford vs. Michigan is night and day. Some people will see 5 wins vs. 3 wins last year for us and see improvement. I see 1 Big Ten win and no road wins, that's 1 road win in 2 years!

Dmarcel

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 4:17 p.m.

oldmanblue, you're a wise man.... I'm a Pitt Grad & it amazes me how fickle Wolverine fans are. I trust that these are not the majority. Earlier this season, these postings were reading "Tate for Heisman", "10 Wins", "Big Ten Title", etc... Now they want to fire The Head Coach, The AD, The School President, The Board of Regents. It's laughable (actually, very immature). Dave Wannstedt (The Pitt Head Coach) was given time to make progress with his young team. From 2005 forward he went 5-6, 6-6, 5-7, 9-4, & this year Pitt is currently 9-1. U of M would be crazy to fire the head coach after 2 yrs. Given a few more years of development, this young team is going to be very dangerous.

oldmanblue

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 2:23 p.m.

Harbaugh was 5-7 last year in his second year. He won 4 games in year one. He has 7 wins this year so far. Let's fire a coach that has won 2 BCS games for another coach who has had the same success his first two years at Stanford. Remember how well Stanford's brilliant D coordinator was last year?

oldmanblue

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 2:14 p.m.

It stinks to lose but at the same time you have to be realistic. There have been some major hurdles this year and not just with the depleted numbers of defensive players. Injury has been a major factor but not as evident as experience. I dont get how people cant look around and see that other college football teams play mostly seniors and juniors. This team is beyond young. I dont understand why people ask what will we do when Devin Gardner comes next year? Simple, we redshirt him. He learns the system and then excels his junior year. I know this has been hard but Its time to sit back for a second and relax. This will get better, I promise. When it gets better please remember this day when for the second year in a row I said Im on board. The winning est NCAA football program is taking its lumps. Maybe for a minute we can understand how all these teams we have beat on for the last 30 years felt. We will be back and better then ever. The offensive problem has been solved, with time (next year) the defense will get better as well. Acting like upset 11 year olds that feel they deserve to win every time they play a game is getting so old at this point. I love Michigan football just as much as you. I guess even more so. I love Michigan football enough to not turn my back on the program when they are down.

D21

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 1:21 p.m.

InsideTheHall. No can do cuz Birkett also was part of that Martin-Birkett party.

azwolverine

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 1:17 p.m.

Are Lion fans who wanted Matt Millen out traitors who should cheer for another team? Didn't think so.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 1:09 p.m.

You RichRod Koolaidn drinkers crack me up! You make the absurd claim that you have to support the coach if you are "true" Michigan fan and then you turn right around and rip our previous head coach in the next breath! LMFAO!! You were probably the same people callng for LC's head just 2 years ago. This idiot in the HC office has done nothing to warrant any more time. In fact, he's provided ample evidence to lead to his termination. HEY KOOLAID!!! LOL!!!

InsideTheHall

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 12:43 p.m.

Ok Birkett here is your big journalist moment. I post it here because I have the scoop. On the Friday night before the Illinois game Bill Martin had dinner at Alexanders Steak House. It was a party of about 12 and include Jim Brandstatter, Frank Beckman, Bruce Madej, Marty Bodnar and other members of the Michigan travelling party. File a FOIA and see who picked up the tab and if the drinks (beer) was expensed. University policy prohibits the expensing of alcohol. OK, now go fetch, this is your journalistic moment.

azwolverine

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 12:41 p.m.

oldmanblue (hiding today, are we?), No one on here hates Michigan. We hate LOSING! We especially hate losing with a coach who has made ZERO PROGRESS in two years. I WILL NOT EVER CHEER FOR ANYONE BUT MICHIGAN!!! Stanford gave Harbaugh a chance because he DESERVED one! He took over a program that was a mess and made steady progress. RR took over a stable, winning program and has made steady REGRESS! Look at his record over his 16 seasons. Do it. Go to wikipedia. He's mediocre and inconsistent at best, LOUSY at worst (and oh, right now he is at his lousy worst). No, oldman. You go on and keep predicting your 9-3 and giving this guy a free pass for failing even your expectations. REAL Michigan fans will demand better for the program that we love. Go Blue!

oldmanblue

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 12:31 p.m.

Harbaugh will make his first bowl appearance this year. I bet he is glad Stanford gave him time. I can't believe how stupid people are to even consider firing our coach. These are the same people that claim to have loved Michigan football for all of their lives that now hope for losses. This team is made up of first and second year players. Both lines have freshman or red shirt freshmen starters. The best player on offense has missed 60% of the year. We have a freshman quarterback. We have had four defensive coordinators in five years. Shall I go on? The guy can coach. I suggest we let him do his job. If you hate Michigan football now then go cheer for another team. The true Blue do not want or need you around. Go follow Ohio State, or the powerful Spartans.

D21

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 12:25 p.m.

Wow, what an arrogant fella (Martin). The alumni needs to turn up the heat on Sue Coleman and the trustees and you may ask why??? Huge conflict of interest: Martin loaned $$$ to RR through his bank and no wonder Martin wants to keep RR around to pay off the loan. There may be a real probability in the loan that RR may have a clause or two that would allow him to walk away from the loan payments should he be terminated from his HC duties at UM. That, by itself, is a true scandal and NCAA needs to investigiate it asap.

GoblueinNE_PA

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 12:09 p.m.

Theo Do you actually read what you write? Seriously? You claim that we are Michigan and should have been in many more BCS games than we were. Ok, maybe that's true, but this idiot can't even get us a winning record!!!!! He can't even take the kids you say should be playing for a National Title and finish above.500!!!! And while I wanted LC gone, there is NO WAY you can say that LC left this idiot with a mess. The Idiot CREATED the mess by showing ZERO respect for the kids here or the traditions. He also has shown ZERO ability to do anything other than coach his gimmick offense. He's a complete failure. Bill Martin is really the problem as others have stated, but we now have to deal with folly. It's sad to say, but I yearn for the App State days. At least then, we expected to win every week. Now, I expect to lose every week.

azwolverine

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 11:46 a.m.

Theo, The 'King' has made it known that it will take time by his ineptness. He said before the season that anything short of a bowl game would be a 'major disappointment.' That's the only thing he's been right about since he's been here. Even he can't believe how poorly he's doing. Further, what evidence do you have that RR will have us consistently in any BCS hunts? In his 16 years as a coach, he's had 5 LOSING seasons, multiple 6-9 win seasons, and the 4 very good years with Pat White. Even after years of 'building' Glenville St, he went 6-4 in his final season there. Great 'building' job. In other words, in 16 years as a head coach, he's had FAR MORE losing and mediocre seasons than good ones. And in his one sniff at a NC with ALL OF HIS PLAYERS, he CHOKED! Why wait around for this clown? He will NEVER, and I repeat NEVER, win a National Title here or ANYWHERE. He can't even beat Purdue! Cut him now, he's proven over his 16 years he's not worth waiting for.

captain

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 11:22 a.m.

the police investigation had "nothing to do" w/ his decision to retire.... oh, sure! why couldn't he just do the right thing and resign immediately... if he had any real passion for mich. sports it is the obvious thing to do at this point. gotta hang around long enough to go out in his private box... (pigstye) next opening day... what a guy!!!

Stophersports

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 10:59 a.m.

Is Martin serious? Does he really think everyone is that stupid? Yes, let us look at what happened at Georgia Tech when Johnson first came. He installed a completely new offensive scheme, in a conference where no one thought it would work, and in his first season, they won nine games, tied for the Coastal Division title, and played in a bowl game. Sorry Bill, but none of those things happened the first year you brought your boy Rich to Michigan to install a completely new offensive scheme.

heartbreakM

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 10:26 a.m.

Hey allIn any coaching transition as we had--with the successful head coach retiring rather than bad coach being fired--automatically brings expectations with it from the fans. If we can believe the RR KoolAiders, bringing in RR was the way to go from mediocre Lloyd Carr years to outstanding world beatin' RR years. Yet, not one of you said at the time--well, it'll take 4 years to approach LC's record because RR needs to have his own players. The way the game is played--it is impossible for a coach to bring in his own players in one fell swoop. THerefore, the coach has to deal with what he has. Which RR has flat out not done. What happens when he brings in all his own athletes and still fails? Then the other coach will have another 4 years? That's nearly a decade of futility. Other coaches nationally have somehow dealt with a variety of situations and succeeded, coaches like Saban, Meyer, Harbaugh, Carroll, Neuheisel (to an extent), Dantonio, Kelley, Stoops. Why should RR be an exception?

azwolverine

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 10:13 a.m.

allinformichigan, What are we being patient for, exactly? RR has been a head coach for 16 years now at various levels. If you look up his record on wikipedia, you will see that he has been both inconsistent and average at best over that time save for his Pat White years at WVU. He's got 5 LOSING seasons, multiple 6-9 win seasons, and only went 6-4 in his final season at Glenville St after SEVERAL years there. In other words, he's had 12 mediocre to poor years, and 4 very good ones. THAT is what we are waiting for? In his only real chance to win a NC, he CHOKED!!! RR is a mediocre coach that is in way over his head. He is out of his league against Paterno, Tressel, and Ferentz. Heck, he's in over his head against Dantonio and Zook! He will NEVER be anything above mediocre here and it's time to cut our losses. NOW!!!

Allinformichigan

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 9:24 a.m.

RR has definitely underachieved...but I can see how good this offense could be. I know it is very puzzling to see that we possibly have the worst defense in the country! But the fire him now would set us back another 3 years and I cant take any of that. I honestly believe if you give him two more recruiting classes we will be jsut like West Virginia beating the snot out of Oklahoma in a BCS game. Next week is very important!!!!! We have some very good recruits coming on defense if we land some of these guys we will be just fine. Remain patient and support RR cause a this negativity doesnt help!!!! Especially in Recruiting!!!! At least if we get rid of him in 2 years we have the type of personell and to find the right coach to compliment the team.

Allinformichigan

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 9:22 a.m.

RR has definitely underachieved...but I can see how good this offense could be. I know it is very puzzling to see that we possibly have the worst defense in the country! But the fire him now would set us back another 3 years and I cant take any of that. I honestly believe if you give him two more recruiting classes we will be jsut like West Virginia beating the snot out of Oklahoma in a BCS game. Next week is very important!!!!! We have some very good recruits coming on defense if we land some of these guys we will be just fine. Remain patient and support RR cause a this negativity doesnt help!!!! Especially in Recruiting!!!! At least if we get rid of him in 2 years we have the type of personell and to find the right coach to compliment the team.

BlueFan97

Sun, Nov 15, 2009 : 9:06 a.m.

FIRE Martin NOW. I know it won't happen, but would at least be a step in the right direction, only IF MSC can hire the right guy to replace him. Bill Martin is Michigan's version of Matt Millen. Extremely inept with a huge ego, and doesn't really have a clue. And please people, stop with the cupboard was bare garbage. Dantonio took over a train wreck at MSU, and went 9-7 in his first two years. By no means did Dantonio have more talent than what Rich Rod had when he got here, yet he's 3-12, and soon to be 3-13. What a mess. This isn't a few steps back to get to several steps forward, this is a utter destruction.

heartbreakM

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 11:40 p.m.

A2bud: Right on brother. (or sister). If it were up to me, I'd fire RR immediately. Get rid of his stuff. Put Jackson in charge for the week, then go after Harbaugh hard. Only he can understand what Michigan is about, what the OSU-UM rivalry is about (I guarantee it!!), what it's like to be in these stadiums, and what it takes to win. Comes from a coaching family, including father and brother. And he succeeded in his first, second, and third season using Stanford admission standards not to mention San Diego. Finally, he obviously has a high expectation for Michigan, given his comments in 07--he can come in and back up his words. Should be a no-brainer. But he also grew up in Palo-Alto so he may no longer be interested.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 11:36 p.m.

Hell. Let's beg Harbaugh. The man has integrity and leadership skills. Remember he had to play under the king of jackass coaches: Mike Ditka.

captain

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 10:59 p.m.

right you are tomhagen... martin failed miserably in the only assignment he had to get right... hire the right football coach anf get out of the way.per, don canham. he messed up the les myles deal because it was so obvious it was gonna be of no value to martin's huge ego... he meddled w/ it... and lost it to the media... clumsily offered the job to the rutgers coach... got turned down... panicked.. offered it to rich rod w/o being properly vetted... a pathetic, amateurish blunder... unbelievable,really in the magnitude of the damage to the football program when the bad news really gets ugly w/ the investigation findings.. martin has gotta go NOW!!! especially after the despicable treatment of the students... it's all so very sad... ego, arrogance...

Blueman Rick

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 9:53 p.m.

(Shes) very supportive, Martin said. Michigan hasnt experienced this in recent history, we know that. But we havent had a coaching chance since Bo (Schembechler), really, to a different system, in quite a long time. WHAT ARE THESE IDIOTS TALKING ABOUT? A coaching change? To a different system? THIS IS SABOTAGE!!!!

SG

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 9:52 p.m.

RR has destroyed Michigan football in less than two years. It is definitely time to get rid of him. And I am so tired of him blaming Carr's "bare cupboard" for his problems. He's got athletes and the failure to make in-game adjustments are not anyone else's fault. And Bill Martin, I'm glad to see you go too. It's a few years too late.

Blueman Rick

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 9:48 p.m.

Great. Just the news that we needed. Keep on drivin' nails in the coffin. It'll be years before we recover. Bastards.

UofMbeWorser

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 9:24 p.m.

I will speak of Jim Tressel only because he is now our next opponent. in almost two years Rich Rodriguez has a 3-12 record in the big ten. In almost nine years Jim Tressel has a 58-13 record in the big ten. So IF Ohio beats Michigan next week RR will have tied Tressels Big ten loss record with 7 years to spare. Excellent work Rodriguez, what a Pioneer. Tressel also won a NC in his second year :(

djuninho

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 8:54 p.m.

Dollar Bill didn't have an effing clue that Johnson was in his 2nd year, otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it... RR mentioned last year he wanted to be like Nick Saban in year 2 but I don't see no 12-0 team in the regular season! I wonder what he and MSC will do next week when 100,000 peeps boo RichRod off the field?!

azwolverine

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 8:33 p.m.

He's never been effective at Michigan anyway. Duck or not, he's always been LAME!

tomhagan

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 8:11 p.m.

Rich Rod is a Lame Duck Coach. It is only a matter of time..the clock is ticking. He wont be effective as a Lame Duck.

BadgerBill

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 8:04 p.m.

As a Wisconsin alum and diehard Badger Fan - I have to say most of us hate what's happened to UM. It used to be a big year when we beat UM, now WE"RE considered losers if we don't. As the saying goes "Be careful what you wish for, it might come true". Where have you gone Lloyd Carr, the Wolverine Nation turns it's lonely eyes to you - woo, woo, woo!!!

tomhagan

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 7:48 p.m.

Martin has such a HUGE ego...he will never admit the massive mistake he made in hiring Rich Rod... therefore he is not looking at the best interests of the program. That will be his legacy, unfortunately. Meanwhile, Coach Jim Harbaugh just laid 55 points on USC, beating them for the 2nd time in 3 years...on the heels of beating Oregon... USC and Oregon are 2 teams that Michigan has lost to 2 times this decade each....and Jim Harbaugh beats both with scholar athletes from Stanford.... Martin...hmmm...time to put your Pride out of the way and end the Fall.

azwolverine

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 7:47 p.m.

Not only does Martin not know football, but he is a jerk to the hardworking, blue collar stadium staff just trying to do their jobs. He can't leave soon enough.

GettingBluer

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 7:44 p.m.

Well, I've been doing that for over a year now. They call (almost nightly) for donations and I tell 'em that we can talk after they fire the idiot. Maybe there are too many idiots and I'm confusing them...

Man in the Mirror

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 7:44 p.m.

Michigan has atleast four more years according to Susie...hee hee. IN ROD WE TRUST he will have "HIS" players and "HIS" system in place then because the cupboard was bare with lack of talent when he got here.

A2Bud

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 7:43 p.m.

Hire Harbaugh! This biggest loser, Rich Rod, in UM football history needs to go back to "Big Least" territory. He can't even have non-debates during this past week with his QB? A.D. Martin also is jumping ship after hiring rrod, and Mary Sue doesn't have a clue about UM football as proven after two years of disasters and giving him another year? This is a no brainer. Jim Harbaugh knows how to coach, knows UM football, and can turn this worst decline in UM history around! Pink slip for rod tonight...motivation for beating the team who thinks they own the Wolves even with "zeroes" opn their caps.

coachcookeAZ

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 7:32 p.m.

Only when Coleman and Martin see a few less donor checks will they stop supporting Dumb Rod. The word I would use to describe Michigan Athletics...hubris. They thumbed their noses at Harbaugh and Kelly. Now what do we have? Nothing, absolutely nothing!!

Disthekey

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 7:20 p.m.

Mr. Martin may know business but he doesn't know football, especially Michigan football. He and Ms. Coleman have no idea how important football is to the Michigan following. If the program continues on it's present course, they will both learn some painful financial lessons.

StarZone

Sat, Nov 14, 2009 : 7:19 p.m.

Good thing everyone had a fit about what Jim Harbaugh said in summer 2007, otherwise maybe UM would be taking down Top 10 competition these days. Fan base wanted change, so you get what you ask for.