Q&A with Lt. Gov. Brian Calley: New tax structure will make Michigan more competitive
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Lt. Gov. Brian Calley says Michigan's new business tax structure will be among the simplest in the nation, placing fairness ahead of social planning, and making Michigan more competitive.
Calley, who at age 34 is the second youngest lieutenant governor in Michigan history, sat down recently with Lansing Bureau reporter Peter Luke to talk about what the changes mean for Michigan. (Responses have been edited for length.)Q. Why will the new business tax be better for the economy in ways the old one wasn’t?
A. Employers, meaning those who pay business taxes, nearly unanimously believe the Corporate Income Tax (CIT) is superior to and makes Michigan more competitive than it was with the Michigan Business Tax (MBT). Since the decision to add jobs has many subjective elements, the opinion of the decision makers is critical.
The CIT is arguably the simplest business tax code in the nation. The MBT was among the most complicated and burdensome in the nation. The cost of compliance with the CIT will be far lower than it was with the MBT.
The previous tax system picked certain industries to favor, and paid for their advantage with higher taxes on the others. It was patently unfair. The CIT places fairness ahead of social planning. It follows the idea that if you treat businesses fairly, and if you have a tax system that has fairness as core principle, the overall environment will be better for all businesses - not just those with effective lobbyists.The CIT also eliminates the double taxation of “pass through entities” which are mostly small businesses. The MBT and the SBT before it taxed the income of small businesses twice - once on the business tax and again on the individual income tax.
The CIT is substantially smaller than the MBT, making Michigan much more competitive than before.
Q. You’ve cited the unfairness of double taxing business owners - once through the Michigan Business Tax and secondly through the personal income tax. But doesn’t the business separately benefit from state services and if so, why shouldn’t it contribute to them as well?
A. The taxation of business income on the personal income tax is the taxation of the business. That’s the whole point of exempting them from the CIT.
Furthermore, the CIT is only a small portion of what businesses pay for services in Michigan. Between fees and other taxes, Michigan businesses pay well over $10 billion beyond the CIT for the services they consume.
Q. The Citizens Research Council’s new review of the budget and tax changes says reducing business taxes will produce positive economic growth that will be offset, at least in part, by the negative economic growth that accompanies higher income taxes. Agree or disagree? And why?
A. The CRC review was a very transactional analysis of the tax reform package and did not consider any dynamic changes that are likely to occur.
The tax reform package is a substantial net reduction in taxes, which will create a net increase in economic activity. But this net tax cut is not as important as the dynamic impact our government, budget and tax reforms will have on the economy.
By passing the simplest business tax code in the nation, the cost of compliance will be far less than before.
Because the CIT is so competitive with the rest of the nation and the world, growing businesses located in multiple states and countries will be more likely to add jobs at their Michigan site, rather than other options they may have.
By eliminating the double taxation of small businesses, the likelihood of both their survival and growth will increase. Our only net job growth between 1998 and 2008 in Michigan came from small businesses.
None of these dynamic changes were considered in that CRC analysis.
Q. Which types of firms are likely to benefit most from the elimination of the MBT or are most likely to use the money to hire workers?
A. The vast majority of firms will benefit from the elimination of the MBT as the size and the complexity of the CIT is far less and the structure is far superior. This goes for businesses in every industry and of every size. That’s the beauty of this tax reform; it does not pick certain companies over others and it offers no special deals for those who make large political contributions or hire lobbyists.
The previous tax had high rates that were offset by a few massive credits. If you qualified for the credits you did fine. If you didn’t, then you were simply left with an excessive tax. Therefore, those businesses that had substantial credits, mostly big companies, will now pay the same as everyone else.
Additionally, this fall, our administration will propose substantial changes in the personal property tax (on machinery tools and other equipment) that will make the state even more attractive and competitive.
Q. Which types of firms are least likely to add jobs?
A. I don’t think there is any industry that will be less likely to add jobs under the CIT than they would have added under the MBT. I expect the opposite to be true pretty much across the board. It is simpler, fairer and more competitive. The previous economic development strategies employed a micro, transactional approach where the state put together individual deals to overcome a bad overall jobs environment. This tax reform gets at the root of the problem. Instead of making special deals to mitigate the bad jobs environment, we fix the bad jobs environment.
Q. The previous Republican administration often cut taxes regardless of the budget consequences. This one is largely paid for on a full-year basis. Why the change?
A. Not being present for the actions taken under previous administrations, I cannot offer any insight into their decision-making process. However, I can say that this administration will continue to insist on a maintaining a structurally sound, transparent and sustainable budget. We are not willing to avoid difficult decisions, leaving more debt and burden on the next generation.
Q. In terms of Michigan’s ability to attract big projects from big companies, will the new 6 percent tax rate on corporations that file a federal corporate return - as opposed to the MBT - make the state more competitive?
A. According to the Edward Lowe Foundation, Michigan lost more than 278,000 jobs from large businesses between 1998 and 2008. This is in spite of the fact that Michigan put billions of dollars during that time into large project incentives. During that same period, small businesses, who do not typically qualify for such incentives, added jobs. This demonstrates how much of a spectacular failure the previous method of economic development was.
Q. How will we know whether the tax plan has succeeded or failed?
A. Business tax reform on its own is not enough for Michigan to reach its true employment potential. When coupled with personal property tax reform, regulatory reform, talent and workforce development and adequate intellectual and transportation infrastructure, we will see the results our citizens deserve.
In January we unveiled the Michigan dashboard, which is essentially a report card on Michigan and it’s government. Included within that dashboard are important economic indicators such as unemployment, gross domestic product and per capita income, all of which are benchmarked against the national averages. These are relevant indicators of the effectiveness of state policies and reforms when compared to national averages.
Comments
OverTaxed
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 8:58 p.m.
First Granholm raised our income tax, now Snyder lowers the business tax. The middle class will get hurt. Vote Tea Party in November!
godsbreath64
Tue, Jul 26, 2011 : 10:27 p.m.
It is high time Mr Calley sleeps without his clown-shoes under his bed. The Richard Dale Snyder administration is a perpetual constitutional crisis and requires the public intervention by the public in the form of RECALL. This author should use his time more wisely than carrying water for people who utterally refuse to obey the law or common decency to be honest.
Veracity
Mon, Jul 25, 2011 : 1:04 p.m.
Kathryn is correct and Chip Reed and Mike K are not. Business tax cuts will allow companies to keep more of their profits but these retained funds will not be used to increase employment nor can be expected to be spent into the economy. Increased demand for good and services drives producers to increase employment. Most of increased demand comes from middle class spending. When disposable income is reduced for the middle class, as is happening under Snyder's governance, then consumption will be reduced and jobs will not be stimulated. To understand how corporate tax reductions will not translate into job formation please read the following article: <a href="http://www.annarbor.com/news/opinion/why-corporate-tax-reduction-will-not-increase-jobs/">http://www.annarbor.com/news/opinion/why-corporate-tax-reduction-will-not-increase-jobs/</a>
Monica R-W
Mon, Jul 25, 2011 : 12:04 a.m.
Recall the Governor Snyder, vote out Lt. Gov. Calley and get real change in our state. <a href="http://www.firericksnyder.org" rel='nofollow'>http://www.firericksnyder.org</a> <a href="http://www.repealpa4.org" rel='nofollow'>http://www.repealpa4.org</a> Michigan businesses have had the same tax cuts under the Bush Administration, continued by the Obama Administration in 2010. They have YET to really hire here, in the state of Michigan. Let's try something else besides shifting the tax burden to Michigan Workers, Middle and Lower Classes! One other thing....the MBT has been changed since April 2011, yet the state's unemployment rate have increased to 10.5% over the last two months. Gov. Snyder and Lt. Gov. Calley, were are the JOBS? Monica RW Reach Out Job Search News Blog
Thick Candy Shell
Mon, Jul 25, 2011 : 4:33 a.m.
The changes have not kicked in yet. And don't worry, there will be jobs, unfortunately for most, they will not be jobs for lower education. The engineers, the computer folks, the researchers..... they will start to see it. We will never as a country the same manufacturing culture.
kathryn
Sun, Jul 24, 2011 : 2:44 p.m.
I guess we can only hope that they are correct...that tax changes will cause businesses to hire. Personally, I'm skeptical. Hiring is based on demand. You hire when you have more business than you can handle with your current employees. You don't hire just because you have extra money sitting around. If they are wrong...how long until we know? And how much will us regular folks be paying in the meantime?
Mike K
Sun, Jul 24, 2011 : 2:19 p.m.
Frankly, I think Mr. Calley is right. Right because of what he has done to done for the small business owners who were taxed twice - once on their small business, then again on his or her income. Small business owners are far more likely to consume goods and services than retirees. Taxing retiree pensions certainly can be inflammatory when promotely as such, but when I cash out of my retirement instruments, I will pay dearly as will hundreds of thousands of Michiganders. It is not new, nor is it unique. As for public schools, I have two children enrolled in AAPS, and I'm not worrying about it. We participate in our children's education - that is just as important as good teachers - maybe even more so. Michigan families need to value education. Political idealogy aside, the changes Snyder is making are positive. Whether or not they will be effective in this difficult economic environment is hard to tell. The jobs lost might never come back. Michigan had it and lost it. Michigan used to be a jobs destination - I relocated here in 1991 myself.
John B.
Mon, Jul 25, 2011 : 1:51 p.m.
Oh yeah, he's 'Right,' all right. And Right is wrong.
Chip Reed
Sun, Jul 24, 2011 : 2:16 p.m.
Mr. Calley's position is a very good reason not to recall Mr. Snyder. If you would rather have this young man running the state...
godsbreath64
Tue, Jul 26, 2011 : 11:23 p.m.
It'll be only for a few weeks until the general election for Richard Dale Snyder's office. Calley is WAY to craven to stick around after the fall of RDS. He is only about all the benefits of office without any of the responsibilities
pseudo
Sun, Jul 24, 2011 : 1:49 p.m.
Frankly, I think Mr. Calley is wrong. Wrong because of what he has done to the workforce and wrong because of what he has done to public school students, the poor and retirees. Wrong because of what this will eventually do to our state. When I talk to potential employers - those thinking of options for placing new facilities the single largest issue is the quality of the workforce. This giant shift in tax burden under cuts all of the efforts at work to enhance the quality of the workforce. I am unimpressed.