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Posted on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 1:37 p.m.

Library reinvention vital for future of community

By Letters to the Editor

It would be easy to assume in a world of constant connectivity, instant communication and ever smaller, cheaper and ubiquitous electronic devices, that a library is now a useless anachronism of modern society.

That couldn't be further from the truth. We desperately need places to connect with history, with art, with knowledge and with each other. The vision that the Ann Arbor District Library has for a reinvention of our public library as a resource for our entire community, and one that takes into consideration how the world has changed in seeking knowledge, makes their proposal compelling and essential.

We take great pride in our community: our downtown, our parks, our schools, our children and how we take care of all of them together. A library is one of those key resources that we as leaders can only bring about as a whole community working together.

Richard B. Sheridan

Ann Arbor

Comments

Jim Schueler

Tue, Oct 23, 2012 : 7:02 p.m.

A few minutes ago, one of the downtown security guards directed me to one of the 4 seats in that facility where users have access to power for laptop computers. None of those 4 were available. The conversation went like this: Me: Are you telling me I have to leave? Guard: You don't have to leave, you just can't plug in your computer. The first problem is that the shortage of outlets is ridiculous. The second is their creative way of resolving that problem. I'm torn between two positions: If the $65M bond passes, there will surely be more power outlets available. But there are other, cheaper solutions; including, as far as I can tell, re-arranging the furniture. Possibly, the library is perpetuating the problem to underscore the need for the bond. Either way, I've concluded that the $65M will end up in the hands of people whose priorities clearly differ from mine.

TommyJ

Thu, Oct 25, 2012 : 3:22 a.m.

An additional laptop battery will cost you $30. IMO, last time I checked, that was a lot less than $65 million.

Dave DeVarti

Wed, Oct 24, 2012 : 3:10 a.m.

Jim: I'm laughing as I read this!! you are totally correct. The Library could solve this outlet problem for a few thousand dollars ( I know this from personal experience with building projects). Yet they are enforcing this now as a way to demonstrate their need for $65 million. Vote NO on the $65 million! You can come over to my house and use my outlet for your laptop computer if the Library is unable to solve this problem with the generous millage funds the taxpayers already give annually to the Library!

Jim Schueler

Tue, Oct 23, 2012 : 10:31 p.m.

I've been haunted by the voice of a shrill librarian indignantly pointing out: "Yes. But he was creating a safety hazard." Maybe if I elaborate, those little voices will go away. The library prohibits the use of all power outlets in the exterior wall. When the security guard intervened, a hazardous situation would occur if someone was walking in the narrow gap between the table and wall *and* dragging their feet *and* incapacitated to the point that their balance was compromised. Exactly the situation in a major fire, explosion, or something similar. Apparently, the current thinking in building safety is that in an emergency, a significant number of people would grope along an exterior wall looking for an exit. This may be true. It may also be true that the current library is a deathtrap. Perhaps the building is in danger of losing its CO, and I just haven't heard these details. What is more likely is that this theory about building safety is one of many desirable state-of-the-art building enhancements. And I suspect this desire for the perfect building is starting to outweigh the library's obligations of public service.

Steve Johgart

Tue, Oct 23, 2012 : 4:59 p.m.

I'm certain a new library building would be of great benefit to the community, and if there were no other pressing expenses, I'd enthusiastically support it. But here's the problem. According to a report on Public Radio, this bond will add $50 a year to the taxes of the average homeowner. That's a significant amount, but if there were no other bonds coming soon, I'd vote for it. However, as things look now, sometime in the near future, if the planning all goes well, there will be a major mass transit bond issue coming before the voters. I'm guessing (entirely guessing, I admit) that this could be another $50 a year. I fear that if the $50 a year bond for the library passes, folks will be much more hesitant to vote for the far more significant mass transit bond issue. Thus, my plan is to vote No on this otherwise worthwhile issue, and look forward to an enthusiastic Yes vote on a well-planned comprehensive mass transit initiative in a couple of years.

Dave DeVarti

Tue, Oct 23, 2012 : 4:13 p.m.

i am a Library user and supporter and I will be voting NO on this proposal. Taxpayers in Ann Arbor already pay a generous millage to support a Library system we can be justifiably proud of. There are many competing community needs for taxpayer support, which we should look to before substantially increasing the amount of tax dollars we already pay to support the Library.

A Voice of Reason

Mon, Oct 22, 2012 : 12:52 p.m.

This is a waste of tax payer money! Why is big business (GRATZI) owner putting $5000 into the campaign and the treasurer is a banker who is hoping to finance the loan. SELF INTEREST in front of what is best for the people. Plus, we do not need any more strangers, especially out of town visitors at a new conference center, around our children. I am very worried about safety of our kids. VOTE NO!!

Richard Wickboldt

Sun, Oct 21, 2012 : 2:01 p.m.

Our Library doesn't need to be reinvented. We have a library which already is "a resource for our entire community, and one that takes into consideration how the world has changed in seeking knowledge". What we do not have is the $130 million of bonded payments to tear down and rebuild a building already constructed as a library. There is no need to rush. I am sure we could come up with a 10 - 15 million dollar refurbishment project which will keep our functioning library look like it is made for the 21st century. I will be voting NO and urge my fellow citizens to do also. Besides having property/homeowners bear the burden of the cost is also very unfair!

A2Onward

Sun, Oct 21, 2012 : 6:03 p.m.

Well, if you're sure, then it must be true. We sure do have a lot of armchair construction experts on this site.

cindy1

Sun, Oct 21, 2012 : 5:53 p.m.

Well said. A significant portion of property taxes already goes to our libraries.

KINGofSKA

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 11:49 p.m.

I've heard from a couple different places, that it costs around a million dollars a mile to repave a road, and I know there's plenty of roads that need to be redone. 65 miles of road is probably all of downtown and alleyways. There's something this money could go towards.

talker

Sun, Oct 21, 2012 : 10 p.m.

Though a "yes" vote wouldn't take money from road paving at this time, it would tax many to the max or beyond the max and that could prevent urgent local projects in the future. So excessive spending on a new edifice now would make it more likely that worthier bond issues will be voted down later. Also, this proposal threatens to push people out of the city.

A2Onward

Sun, Oct 21, 2012 : 1:57 p.m.

Except that it won't go towards that. It won't go towards anything if you vote no, we'll still have the same roads, and the same old library. A yes vote gets us a great new library, and takes nothing from the road paving program.

Halter

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 7:38 p.m.

I respect this opinion -- I can also go on record to say I am NOT voting for this proposal. Does the Library need some updates? Sure. Am I proud of our Library. Sure. But what we need is to spend some money on upgrading THIS library, not a new one. What Ann Arbor needs for its other needs is a viable community center with theater and gallaries and break-out rooms for rehearsals and artists. What we don't need is to try to create community meeting spaces inside the Library.

Brad

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 2:40 p.m.

OK, let me ask the "elephant in the room" question. How many of those "door counts" are what we would call "non-traditional library visitors"? And you know exactly what I am talking about. I don't care that they want to hang out at the library, but their numbers sure shouldn't be used to bolster the case for building a new library. How about it, AADL? Got those numbers?

talker

Sun, Oct 21, 2012 : 9:42 p.m.

I think the reference is to a variety of visitors, including "bums" and including sometime library users who also stop in occasionally to use the public restrooms while they are nearby.

Cathy

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 3:47 p.m.

Are you talking about bums?

Dog Guy

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 3:14 p.m.

Subtract number of flushes from the door count. I am more than a hundred of those non-traditional annual visitors.

Donald Harrison

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:43 p.m.

For those interested to learn more about the five buildings of the AADL and the bond proposal to rebuild the downtown facility, there's a free informational bike tour this Sunday. It's about a 20-mile ride to visit each of the branches and learn more about them. The ride will depart from Common Cycle at the Kerrytown Artisan's Market at 1pm. Full details: https://www.facebook.com/events/122538461229232/

talker

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:43 p.m.

Some of the larger cities cited as having better library buildings also have more businesses to provide the type of tax base Ann Arbor hasn't had since the departure of Pfizer. Pfizer was Ann Arbor's largest payer of property taxes. Many homeowners and at least some renters I've heard say they can't afford ANY increase in property taxes. It seems strange that people in houses that are 40+ years old are expected to pay to replace a library that includes a 20 year old addition (and the entire building is about 50 years old). On another site discussing the library proposal, at least two poster emphasized specific things they'd like, but can't afford.

Arboriginal

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:37 p.m.

I'll be voting yes, but this seems like a bad year for progress!

LXIX

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:03 p.m.

"I hope I've clarified things. The important thing for you to remember, Montag, is we're the Happiness Boys, the Dixie Duo, you and I and the others. We stand against the small tide of those who want to make everyone unhappy with conflicting theory and thought. We have our fingers in the dike. Hold steady. Don't let the torrent of melancholy and drear philosophy drown our world. We depend on you. I don't think you realize how important you are, to our happy world as it stands now." (Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury

Tyler

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:03 p.m.

Didn't they just build a new library in the past 3 or 4 years? Why didn't they address these concerns when they build the library on Traverwood?

Donald Harrison

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:40 p.m.

They completed Traverwood in 2008 (and two other new branches in 2006 and 2004), at which point the downtown building became their next top priority, to address its major deficiencies. As a large scale municipal building serving a the AADL's main branch, it's a major project, not something that could be addressed within their operating budget.

Donald Harrison

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 10:45 p.m.

Ann Arbor's downtown facility is falling far short of the needs and expectations of our community. It's a wastefully inefficient building to operate, poorly accessible for people with disabilities, difficult to upgrade or add technology and it's exceeded capacity in significant ways. Downtown draws over 600,000 visitors/year. Cities like Seattle, Madison, Austin, Salt Lake City and San Diego have invested significantly in new downtown libraries. I think Ann Arbor has a great library system, but the main downtown building is not well structured or designed to serve this community now or well into the future.

Dave DeVarti

Tue, Oct 23, 2012 : 4:07 p.m.

Donald: my family and I use the downtown branch of the Library and we have never found it to be inadequate in serving our needs. It is a vital part of a great library system that we already pay a generous millage to support. This $65 million is way too much given other community needs for limited taxpayer resources. I will be voting NO! I am curious to know, by the way, the specifics of just how the Library falls "well short" of meeting your needs as you stated here.

DJBudSonic

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 12:12 p.m.

My family of four uses the downtown library constantly, we are there 3-4 times a week, and attend many events held there and offsite, so I think I can speak from experience when say we have never had a problem with overcrowding, noise, lack of resources, lack of communication, or any of the other so-called problems we keep hearing about from the pro-bond library supporters that haunt these forums. I can tell you that this family is giving 2 NO votes to the library bond. And, I might add, we have great respect for the library staff, we are known on sight by the directors and staff down there, but we are already paying for the library with a current bond, and simply cannot afford more taxes.

Veracity

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 2:52 a.m.

Your complaints are unusual and apparently not shared by the vast majority of 600,000 visitors that use the library. To me the library is as functional now as it was since I started visiting it regularly with my daughter over 30 years ago. Of course I use the library rarely now as I can obtain information, reading and audiovisual materials easily via the Internet from the convenience of my home and almost everywhere else. If I want to borrow library material I arrange for it to be delivered to my branch library for pickup.

Brad

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 12:24 a.m.

That's great, Donald, but I was just responding to your "falling far short of the needs [...] of our community." statement. I don't agree. At least not 65 million dollars (plus) worth at this time. So please stop generalizing about what "the community" thinks if you don't have anything to back it up. And so far I haven't seen it.

Donald Harrison

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:35 p.m.

That's great, Brad, but the real issue is that the AADL is seeing and hearing every day how they can't properly serve so many patrons. And although the service and collections and programs of the AADL are fantastic, the downtown building falls well short for too many people, myself included. I strongly believe that investing more in the AADL is going to provide great value for our community.

Brad

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:12 p.m.

I'm in the community and it is not falling short of my expectations.

David

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:54 p.m.

We are still in a major state of flux on information dissemination. Not outlandish to think that in ten years most volumes currently on shelves will or could be replaced with ebook licenses that are leased or owned by AADL, that e-readers or tablets will be ubiquitous, and that universal wi-fi will make physical trips to the library unnecessary. Libraries should undergo metamorphoses and become centers of culture, repositories where one-of-a-kind visual elements, print and fine arts media are available for use or enjoyment on premises. It's way too early to commit $65 million to an exciting but nonetheless uncertain library of the future.

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 10:10 p.m.

"Libraries should undergo metamorphoses and become centers of culture, repositories where one-of-a-kind visual elements, print and fine arts media are available for use or enjoyment on premises." Um, that's exactly what they've been doing. The Library in Ann Arbor lends out music instruments, telescopes, art for your walls, and lots of other non-media stuff, along with events and talks. They're one step ahead of you, and need a new building to keep doing it.

Dog Guy

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:47 p.m.

A compelling and essential vision for reinvention to connect with history can bring the downtown library branch into the 20th century for only about $150 million total.

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 10:15 p.m.

Now it's $150m? You've got a pretty crumby mortgage broker if your paying 6.75% while everyone else is paying less than half that (municipal rates are even lower than that).

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:39 p.m.

For those questioning the popularity of library's these days, check out the library's annual reports: http://www.aadl.org/taxonomy/term/574 2010 Systemwide Door Count: 1,767,784 (up 3.2% year over year) Downtown Library: 649,231 (up 5.6%) 4 Branches: 1,118,553 (up 1.8%) 2009 Annual Report Systemwide Door Count: 1,713,595 (up 4.4% year over year) Downtown Library: 614,533 (up 2.3%) 4 Branches: 1,099,062 (up 5.4%) Total Program Attendance is up even more, 6-15% more every year. Book circulation is up to (14.2%), and the AADL barely has any ebooks. Say what you will about how much money to spend on a new library, but the library is clearly popular, and increasingly so.

Veracity

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 2:41 a.m.

Average daily use of the downtown library calculates to be 1778 daily or 178 patrons hourly during a ten hour day. The figure can be adjusted up or down if my time assumption is wrong. Nevertheless I have not heard that any services have been impaired by the number of hourly library visitors. Furthermore, the numbers do not account for families or groups of three or four coming to the library when only one or two family or group members wish to use the library (and the others just accompany them). My wife and I would often bring our daughter to the childrens' section of the library to check out books and other materials but did not actually use the library ourselves. We would be counted as three visitors though only one was actually making use of the library. So the actual number of patrons using the library at anyone time is likely exaggerated by a factor of two or three. But the bottom line is that no significant user problems have been prominently noted due to the number of library users.

Brad

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:29 p.m.

If we're reinventing it what makes us think that the librarians would still be the "experts"? Just because it's still called a "library"?

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:12 p.m.

There are some pretty compelling and concrete reasons in this 20-year feasibility study: http://www.aadl.org/files/ProvidenceReportjul2307.pdf The library needs to expand the building to continue provided services to the growing number of downtown users, and they can't do that with the cobbled together buildings. There's no room to expand the footprint, and the buildings that are there cannot sustain extra floors above.

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 11:39 p.m.

They get paid whatever they recommend.

Tyler

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 10:58 p.m.

Do you think that kind of situation could create bias in their "report"?

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 10:07 p.m.

Of course they were hired by the library! Who else is going to pay for that kind of thing, you?

Tyler

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:35 p.m.

If you look at the link A2onward posted, two things in particular stand out: 1) The consulting firm was hired by the library - hardly what I would call an unbiased opinion. 2) The questions they first pose all assume that change needs to be made; either the building needs to be remodeled or redesigned.

Brad

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 7:36 p.m.

It's "vital for the future of the community"!! Sounds good, means nothing.

DonBee

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 7:14 p.m.

They have never done a renovation only study. All the studies they have done has included some demolition. I would want to understand what can not be fixed in a pure renovation. 2 years without a library? After only 20 in service. Does that make the library a 90% service? We just finished opening the streets around the library after years of closure. Do we really have to close them again? $65 million is the building cost, what is the cost of the actual bonds - by the time the interest is paid. Since we are still paying for the last renovation that was done on 30 year bonds. Does that mean we pay double for a decade for 1 building - and 2 years of that double we have no building? Come back and ask again if you can prove that a renovation only option will not work or the existing bonds are fully paid off.

DonBee

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 6:37 p.m.

A2Onward - They are replacing a roughly 140,000 square foot building with a roughly 160,000 square foot building. In that additional 20,000 square feet is a 400 person auditorium and the supporting AV rooms, etc for it. That is probably 1/2 the extra space in the new building. So how does this fix capacity?

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:09 p.m.

Renovation is only part of the problem. Capacity is the issue they keep telling us they're struggling with. There is no way with the current building to expand the library. Three building's worth of load bearing walls do not make for a flexible layout to expand upon. See the 20-year feasibility report here: http://www.aadl.org/files/ProvidenceReportjul2307.pdf And lot's of other information here: http://www.aadl.org/buildings/downtown

alarictoo

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 6:44 p.m.

I have yet to see a compelling reason presented from AADL to tear down the existing library and replace it. When they present compelling reasons for such a radical approach I might be willing to entertain the idea. In the meantime, while I think that the downtown library could do with some renovation, I do not see any compelling reason to spend $65,000,000 on this. In fact, if you go to the URL below, #1 lists what they believe cannot be done with/in the current building. If you look at #2, you will see that they have not even commissioned specific plans for the building, but want to assure us in #3 that $65,000,000 will cover it all. http://www.aadl.org/node/212308 I think that AADL owes us a lot clearer information than this before coming and asking for $65,000,000.

Nosy V

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 5:31 p.m.

I am dubious about a feasibility study done in collaboration with O'Neal Construction. I don't think there is a compelling reason to demolish the library unless we are talking about tearing down every building older than 20 years old for 'environmental' reasons. To me, I still believe we are making the facts fit the decision to build a new library.

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 10:05 p.m.

Of course they were hired by the library! Who else is going to pay for that kind of thing, you?

Tyler

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:34 p.m.

If you look at the link A2onward posted, two things in particular stand out: 1) The consulting firm was hired by the library - hardly what I would call an unbiased opinion. 2) The questions they first pose all assume that change needs to be made; either the building needs to be remodeled or redesigned.

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:11 p.m.

Some pretty compelling reasons in this 20-year feasibility study: http://www.aadl.org/files/ProvidenceReportjul2307.pdf They need to expand the library to continue provided services to the growing number of users, and they can't do that with the currently cobbled together buildings.

Tony Livingston

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 6:24 p.m.

We use the libraries a lot. The branch buildings are great and the only problem is that the parking lot gets full. That is a good problem to have. I don't see the need for a new library with all of the expenses that go along with it. Too much of a financial burden on top of already very high taxes in the city of Ann Arbor. We are big library users but we will be voting no on this one.

Roaring_Chicken

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 6:13 p.m.

Well let's see, I have about 30 years of library experience: let's evaluate these thoughts: "It would be easy to assume in a world of constant connectivity, instant communication and ever smaller, cheaper and ubiquitous electronic devices, that a library is now a useless anachronism of modern society." No one here assumes any such thing. YOU are leading the jury. "We desperately need places to connect with history, with art, with knowledge and with each other." These ubiquitous elec. devices allow you to do just that, in case you haven't experienced them. And libraries all over Creation know it & are prioritizing digital over print. And YES they ARE downsizing: staff, footprint, etc. " The vision that the Ann Arbor District Library has for a reinvention of our public library ..." Reinvented as what? It's not going to be a library anymore? "... as a resource for our entire community..." It isn't now? You mean, a BIGGER BETTER building will accomplish this, having failed with the current building ... "... and one that takes into consideration how the world has changed in seeking knowledge, makes their proposal compelling and essential." Not compelling, not essential. Yes, the world has changed in using "discovery platforms." No, the downtown library doesn't need reinventing to keep pace with the changes.

Tyler

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:27 p.m.

You do a good job rebutting these points. Perhaps you can put your 30 years of experience to use by putting forward a better argument for the library than the author of this aa.com article. Any thoughts?

groland

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 6:11 p.m.

We have an outstanding library here in Ann Arbor. It can continue to be outstanding without the need for a 65 million dollar building. Let's dial back the ambition just a bit. I am sure that renovations to the existing structure can be done to update the building and create new spaces. More and more people are getting content online, so it is hard to imagine that library use will grow substantially in the future. Under the current financial constraints , this project is poorly justified.

Nosy V

Sat, Oct 20, 2012 : 5:27 p.m.

I agree A2Onward, I think libraries will continue to play a strong role in the community, which is why we need to expand the system and build new branches rather than suspend a working service.

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:38 p.m.

It's in the library's annual reports: http://www.aadl.org/taxonomy/term/574 2010 Annual Report Systemwide Door Count: 1,767,784 (up 3.2% year over year) Downtown Library: 649,231 (up 5.6%) 4 Branches: 1,118,553 (up 1.8%) 2009 Annual Report Systemwide Door Count: 1,713,595 (up 4.4% year over year) Downtown Library: 614,533 (up 2.3%) 4 Branches: 1,099,062 (up 5.4%) Total Program Attendance is up even more, 6-15% more every year. Book circulation is up to (14.2%), and the AADL barely has any ebooks. Say what you will about how much money to spend on a new library, but the library is clearly popular, and increasingly so.

Tyler

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:25 p.m.

A2 onward, please source "library use is UP" and what areas of use are up? Library use as far as I know (and read on the ALA website) is up as part of a demand in e-books. This is NOT a service that requires a $65 million building or a 400 seat auditorium.

A2Onward

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 9:15 p.m.

"Dial back the ambition"? Now THAT'S inspiring. Since when should Ann Arbor ever dial back it's ambition. "More and more people are getting content online, so it is hard to imagine that library use will grow substantially in the future." Really? The internet's been around for almost 20 years and library use is UP. And up substantially in recent years.

PersonX

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 5:46 p.m.

Why publish such an empty statement? There is no debate about the importance of libraries, but only on the wisdom of tearing down a perfectly good library building to replace it with something else. This short statement makes no clear argument one way or another. What is its purpose? Perhaps the author should spend some time reading ....

Linda Peck

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 5:45 p.m.

With all respect, Mr Sheridan, and thank you expressing your opinion, but the majority of people who are going to vote "no" on the new library I would guess are not anti-libraries, but anti-this particular library at this particular time. Sixty five million dollars for our children to pay back is a lot of money. Our downtoen library is working now and it is not dangerous, so why tear it down? It was just added on to twenty years ago and totally refurbished.

Peter Baker

Tue, Oct 23, 2012 : 7:49 p.m.

Talker, no it doesn't. If you think interest rates are really 6%, I've got a bridge to sell you.

talker

Sun, Oct 21, 2012 : 9:45 p.m.

Actually, the 65 million dollars becomes about 130 million dollars when including the cost of financing over the years.

alarictoo

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 6:35 p.m.

I have yet to see a compelling reason presented from AADL to tear down the existing library and replace it. When they present compelling reasons for such a radical approach I might be willing to entertain the idea. In the meantime, while I think that the downtown library could do with some renovation, I do not see any compelling reason to spend $65,000,000 on this.

Stephen Wehmeyer

Fri, Oct 19, 2012 : 6:08 p.m.

Are you seriously invoking "Please think of the children"? Nothing but deceptive politics from the anti-library side. I like how the "Save the library" movement is actually against the library. Don't try to present coherent arguments. Try to deceive.