Safety and fire concerns: New Michigan fireworks law sparks statewide debate
Indiana resident Andrew Milliman explains a type of firework to Dexter residents William Derksen, 13, and his sister Claire, 10, as they look over fireworks recently at a tent on the corner of South Maple and West Stadium Boulevard in Ann Arbor. They were looking just for fun. While aerial explosives such as bottle rockets, mortars and roman candles are now legal, brother and sister Derksen will have to wait until they're 18 to buy them.
Jeffrey Smith | AnnArbor.com
Business may be booming for fireworks dealers because of a new state law allowing previously illegal “aerial” explosives like bottle rockets, but some residents aren’t exactly cheering.
Communities across the state are taking aim at the law because of such safety and noise concerns. In West Michigan, Walker, Hudsonville, Rockford, Kentwood and Grand Rapids have all restricted the use of consumer fireworks in some capacity. The city of Warren in suburban Detroit also recently challenged the law.
For a long time, it was a Michigan tradition to drive down to Indiana or Ohio to buy fireworks for Fourth of July celebrations. Now, firework enthusiasts can get Roman candles, bottle rockets, firecrackers and sky lanterns at the firework tents that pop up every year in parking lots across the state.
This means increased business for the fireworks dealer, but increased concern for the fire agencies, which are called when things go wrong.
The change in state law started last December, when Gov. Rick Snyder signed legislation allowing what is referred to as “consumer fireworks.” The law took effect Jan. 1, 2012.
The state is expected to make money off not only increased sales tax from exploding sales, but also the $600 fee non-permanent retail operations - like a tent in a parking lot - and the $1,000 fee permanent retail operations have to pay to be certified to sell the consumer fireworks.
Rich Miller, fire marshal for the state of Michigan, told AnnArbor.com that since this is the first year the previously illegal fireworks will be sold, it’s very difficult to estimate how much money will be generated, though some are guessing it might be as much as $10 million.
Statewide, 960 permits were sought, Miller said. According to the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, 696 outfits are registered to legally sell the fireworks. Many of those who didn’t get the permits just didn’t follow up on the paperwork, said Miller.
In Washtenaw County, there have been 10 permits issued, four in Ann Arbor, four in Ypsilanti Township and two in Saline. Find out where they are located on the LARA website.
Other stipulations in the law mandate that people must be 18 years old to buy consumer fireworks and that they not be sold near gas stations. Retailers have to be inspected by a state-certified state fire marshal, as well.
Despite it being the first year, Miller said, “The process is pretty good right out of the gate,”
Fireworks are stacked at a tent on the corner of South Maple and West Stadium Boulevard. Bottle rockets, mortars and Roman candles are now legal in Michigan.
Jeffrey Smith | AnnArbor.com
BUSINESS BOOM
One of the four permits in Ann Arbor was issued to Rudy Rodriguez, who has set up shop in The Quarter Bistro and Tavern’s parking lot off South Maple Road just south of Jackson Avenue for the past 10 years.
In the parking lot, boxes of fireworks are stacked on cafeteria tables shaded by a circus-like red and white tent. Rodriguez estimates that 99 percent of his inventory would have been illegal to sell in Michigan last year.
Rodriguez, who owns Nonstop Fireworks, has been in the business for 20 years. He has tents in Adrian, Battle Creek and Brooklyn.
It’s no surprise that, since he stands to profit from the law, Rodriguez welcomed it with open arms.
“It’s been great. It’s been wonderful for everybody,” he said.
When asked about his profits this year compared with last year, Rodriguez declined to estimate in percentages by how much more he was taking in, though he did admit that it’s “quite a bit higher.”
“Things are a lot better,” he said. “We’re way ahead of schedule. We’re selling a lot more this early in the game than what we normally do.”
More money equals more competition, though. Just down the street from the Nonstop Firework's tent are two retailers in similar tents Rodriguez said haven’t been there in years past.
One is Jake’s, a national chain. It was being manned Tuesday afternoon by Nate Wegryn, who said this was his first year selling fireworks.
“There’s kind of a craze around here,” Wegreyn said about the newly legal fireworks.
Sales representatives Mary Clifford-Hammond and Rachel Camper at the BIG Fireworks' tent a few hundred feet away from Jake’s said the customers they’ve dealt with are glad to be able to get the aerial type of fireworks here in Michigan.
“It’s better than going down to Ohio and bringing them back,” said Camper.
The customers milling about the tents Tuesday seemed to agree. Quinn Smith, of Ann Arbor, already has purchased some previously illegal fireworks, but was looking for more at Jake’s. When Smith moved to Michigan from upstate New York two years ago, he was dismayed to see that the more explosive types of fireworks were illegal.
“I think it’s great,” he said about the law. “Let people celebrate the Fourth of July and have fun.”
Richard Ott, of Ann Arbor, was at Rodriguez’s tent buying fountains, which were legal before the change in the law and are now considered “low-impact fireworks.”
“When you have a 1-year-old and a 5-year-old, you can’t exactly play with firecrackers yet,” he said.
Still, Ott was glad to see the change in the law.
“I remember growing up, being in Ann Arbor, we just drove down to Ohio and bought firecrackers and bottle rockets,” he said. “I’ve been playing with fireworks since I was a kid. Just don’t be dumb and blow yourself up.”
‘MISGUIDED MISSILES’
Every year, fire officials warn the public to be safe around fireworks. This year, not only because of the newly legal fireworks but also the very dry conditions, those warnings are a little more stern.
Ypsilanti Fire Chief Jon Ischesco calls aerial fireworks “misguided missiles.”
“They have more power,” he said. “You could … lose a hand. Keep your garden hose handy. I could really see this being a big problem. This first year is going to be somewhat tenuous.”
Ischesco said he thinks there will be more injuries, more fires and more people ending up in court for fireworks.
Pittsfield Township Fire Chief Sean Gleason pointed out that people have been using smuggled Roman candles and bottle rockets in Michigan for years, but agreed consumer fireworks could pose additional problems.
“It creates more of a danger of people getting hurt and property getting damaged,” he said.
The Ypsilanti Township Fire Department is handing out safety brochures as the Fourth of July approaches, said Fire Marshal Vic Chevrette .
“Hopefully people will read them,” he said. “It basically tells people to use common sense.”
Saline Fire Chief Craig Hoeft said extremely dry conditions also are of major concern.
“It’s pretty dry,” he said. “In the country, it will be that much worse. I would suggest to people to call their fire and police departments and ask questions.”
John Counts covers cops and courts for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at johncounts@annarbor.com or you can follow him on Twitter.
Comments
Bill D
Thu, Sep 20, 2012 : 4:06 p.m.
Common sense and safety are the major concerns today with consumer fireworks. Each fireworks device has all the safety precautions clear stated on the label. The use of fireworks should never be allowed without competent adult supervision, and strict adherence to the labels instructions on the discharge procedures. Find the best fireworks online at the lowest prices delivered to your door from www.fireworksstoreonline.com. Remember, drinking or drugs and driving do not mix. Drinking, drugs and the use of fireworks, spells DISASTER!
Newcomer
Thu, Jul 5, 2012 : 3:49 a.m.
I don't mind the noise (even though it kept my 2 year old up until 11:00). I'm not even that concerned about people getting hurt setting off their fireworks--it's their choice to play with explosives. What really bothers me is the fact that we have been under Air Quality Alerts for over a week and right now the air is incredibly thick with the additional firework pollution. I don't have air conditioning and so must have my windows open--it smells horrible, acrid, noxious. I am furious that my children have to breathe these toxic fumes all night. Who knows what kind of crap they're putting in the air. And the fireworks aren't even impressive, just loud and smelly. Leave it to the professionals.
JRW
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 3:29 p.m.
The majority of the injuries were from metal shrapnel in an explosion, Stoll said. "A lot of people make homemade explosives," Stoll said. "They fill a container with gunpowder and put metal pieces or BBs in it. Then they put it in something and try to blow it up." This is a fireworks? It's a homemade bomb with one purpose: to injure someone. And someone ended up in the ER as a result. This is what the legalization of fireworks does. Idiots think that building a pipe bomb on the 4th of July and detonating it is part of the "legal fireworks" in MI. Hey Rick, are you picking up the tab for the medical costs for these injuries from homemade "fireworks/bombs"?
Arborcomment
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 8:40 p.m.
Sorry JRW, intended thumbs up. Making an explosive device for the purpose of property destruction or bodily harm is a felony.
thinker
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 1:54 p.m.
What I wish was that fireworks would only be legal from July 1 through July 8, for example. Why do they have to be set off starting in May, and probably go all summer? I agree about the dogs and other livestock, as well as small children: Limit the legal season for fireworks!
thinker
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 1:50 p.m.
The issue is not the fireworks--what is allowed now is just the aerial ones, not such a big deal unless it's dry, and it's up to each community to ban fireworks or not), but the fact that it is, and has always been, "Fourth of July" starting in May, not July 1. And the problem has always been the window-rattling M-80s, which are still not legal. The problem is inconsiderate neighbors, and lack of enforcement on still-illegal fireworks. Because how can the police fine for those if the evidence has already been destroyed before they get there?
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Pizza Man
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 7:10 a.m.
Ok, this start with this whole "driving to Ohio" to buy fireworks. Star Fireworks is the place most of you are taking about in in Michigan. Yes, that is right. Exit 2 on 23 South in Michigan, Ottawa Lake Michigan. Second, people have been driving to the state border and to other states for as long as I can remember to get good fireworks and the fact that they changed the law is about time.
jns131
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 4:08 p.m.
Amen. So, what time do you want to shoot off the fireworks tonight?
ToddAustin
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 3:28 a.m.
The peace of our Dexter neighborhood has been shattered every evening for more than a week. I see certain neighbors out in the street in front of their houses setting off very large very loud fireworks, spraying everyone's houses with sparks. Their small children stand not far away, even though the hour is 9:30, 10, or even later. The last shell went off next door at 11:10 this evening. Do we really need money so badly that we'll risk loss of life and limb, injuries to our children, damaged property, and loss of sleep for this? Can't we just pay reasonable taxes on normal things like our homes and incomes? Why must we 'celebrate' by deliberately risking damage and injury to ourselves, our children, our neighbors, and everyone's property? Can we really not do better than this?
HENRYK
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 12:23 a.m.
I feel they should have the one night and one night only for fireworks. They been going off every night for a week and I have a big problem with this. Can I call the police to stop the disturbance? Probably not. I get up a 3:30 A.M. for work everyday yall with the fireworks. Please let me get some sleep!
mbill
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 8:26 p.m.
Happy Independence Day! Will the fort hold? Will the ammo hold out? Celebrate, Dance, Go Wild, Free at Last. The rest take your prescriptions, put your pets in the padded safe room and have the buckets ready.
hail2thevict0r
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 5:39 p.m.
No tom, Arson is intentionally or maliciously starting a fire. Accidentally starting one with legal fireworks would not be illegal and it's why we all have home insurance.
jns131
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 4:06 p.m.
Good point.
Tom Todd
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 9:52 p.m.
is arson still a crime even if it was caused by fireworks?
calmic
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 8:11 p.m.
I don't care where people buy their fireworks. But I do very much care when thoughtless fools set off their fireworks in the city at night, without regard to the fact that the noise is a terrible nuisance. I want the police patrolling and arresting anyone setting of fireworks after 9 pm.
jns131
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 4:06 p.m.
Won't happen until 2am or the fireworks are causing havoc and mayhem. Turn on fan or music and lull yourself to sleep thinking of Sousa.
Mike
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:44 p.m.
We're Ok with legalizing drugs for the tax dollars but not fireworks? Please change it back and protect us from ourselves...........
buildergirl
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:18 p.m.
It might be expected on the Fourth, or even tonight, but the past two weeks have been lively. Just the other night I woke from a dead sleep by a loud boom; I thought something had blown up. It was impossible to get back to sleep after that fear factor kicked in even after I was awake enough to realize what was happening. Kids having fun, fine, but I have to work in the morning. Not appreciated people.
a2guy1974
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 6:12 p.m.
"... not be sold near gas stations." oops--bp on packard/platt!
Stupid Hick
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:47 p.m.
When I was a child, I too had a dog who was scared by fireworks and from that point forward, any thunderstorm would make her visibly (and audibly) nervous.
15crown00
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:39 p.m.
You see folks you can't have it both ways.there has been a movement as long as i can remember to makes them legal and keep the fireworks $$$$$$$ in Michigan instead of sending it to Ohio,and Indiana.Now that it is legal you're not quite so sure.Well it's a little late. about all that can be done now is (1)convince the crooks in Lansing to strike the law from the books or (2) convince your community to restrict the hours and days of sale.and curfew the times they can be shot off..
Mike
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:46 p.m.
There's always a way to restirct something, you just have to be creative like this guy.............I don't know about most of you but I like having more and more of my choices made for me by the government............
SalineBob
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:25 p.m.
Dogs and cats are hugging each other in fear. I wonder how birds and deer react during these bombardments? Got a neighbor whose hobby is running a wood chipper in the evenings. Neighbor kid was recently playing a very poor rendition of Amazing Grace on a trumpet--in his yard. Neighbors cutting their grass at 9:30 pm. Motorcycles. Dogs barking at coyotes howling. Tree frogs trying to get a word in. Fireworks celebrating every holiday including Mother's Day. And this is in pastoral Lodi Township! A few Saturdays ago all of a sudden it became quiet for a couple of hours. It was bizarre. I thought the Mayan end of the world prediction was kicking in early. Or I suddenly became a character in a Stephen King movie.
Arborcomment
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 8:34 p.m.
Ain't America great!
dfossil
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:23 p.m.
I have to agree with Tom Swift, Jr., it's all about money with the Republicans in the Legislature & the Governor. Tax the sales & justify that we are just getting what the next state would get if we didn't. Then blame the USERS as irresponsible & maybe fine them if you can if they or someone else gets hurt or injured or fires start BUT don't take any responsibility for having opened the door! They think we are sooooo stupid as to believe them about anything at the state or federal level.
whojix
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:19 p.m.
Hard to feel bad for dog owners, their mutts annoy people year round. Maybe a taste of their own medicine for a week will teach them some empathy skills.
jns131
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 4:01 p.m.
Hate to say it, but I totally agree with the dog barking annoying neighbors.
mixmaster
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 11:41 p.m.
What you're saying will really make for a good relationship with your dog owning neighbors. Their dog barks and you shoot a bottle rocket or a string of black cats at their house. Nice. Open warfare.
mixmaster
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:12 p.m.
A fine for improper and dangerous use could be prevented by keeping fireworks illegal? After the fact? I mean who wants to go thru the incredible hassle and potential life threatening house fire or loss of limb caused by an "accident", when most of them could be prevented by keeping fireworks illegal?
Tru2Blu76
Mon, Jul 9, 2012 : 2:52 a.m.
Just like banning guns from banks prevents armed bank robberies... RIGHT?? LOL!
hail2thevict0r
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 5:43 p.m.
fireworks aren't going away. Even when they were illegal they were just as easy to get, set off and cause an "accident". At least now there's a way to pay for those accidents directly from the people who are causing them. Also, cities can ban the use of fireworks outside of the days before, on and after national holidays.
mixmaster
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:07 p.m.
What will the emergency room count be for fireworks related burns and worse? What's the incident count for fireworks accidents while under the influence? And how many of those people either can't afford health care or refuse to get into the pool like the rest of us?
Arborcomment
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 8:32 p.m.
Fireworks social Darwinism.
hail2thevict0r
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 5:46 p.m.
The real question is if there will actually be a huge difference between the injuries encountered last year when they were illegal and this year when they're legal.
jns131
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 4 p.m.
Let us know once you get the count.
Grade
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:58 p.m.
First Snyder gives guns to kids, and now fireworks? Really!???
katmando
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:43 p.m.
Tax the heck out of them and use it to pay for t.he damages inflected on others. Any who injurys themselves should pay a large fine anyone that damages other peoples property should pay for it. If the perpetrator can not be located the state should pay the damages.
JRW
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:34 p.m.
Now we have one more idiotic activity for teens, toss bottle rockets all over the neighborhood late at night. Just toss them over the conservatives' homes, they are the ones who passed this idiotic law.
JRW
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:26 p.m.
There is absolutely NO reason for individuals to be able to purchase fireworks. NONE. They are loud and dangerous. Go to a professional display. Keep this junk out of our community.
hail2thevict0r
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 5:53 p.m.
You could use this arguments for a lot of things. All that does is take away our individual freedoms to do and purchase what we want and take the risks that we want in our lifetime. If you don't choose to set them off - fine - but don't say that I can't set them off.
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:23 p.m.
The problem is is that most cities and townships are canceling these things due to cost. This is why they are now legal. There is almost no where to go, except Detroit and you won't find me there, to shoot these things off. I guess we need to go to a state that has money and has no problems shooting these things off.
lumberg48108
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 6:07 p.m.
no reason except they are legal and I choose to purchase them :-)
thinker
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:15 p.m.
The fireworks that I object to re the noisy M-80s. I may be wrong, but I believe those are still illegal. What IS wrong, however, is people who begin setting off fireworks in May, often at 11 or 12 at night, or later, sometimes loud booming M-80s that nearly make you jump out of your skin or wake you up. I have no objection to fireworks around (one week on either side of ) July 4. Please just be considerate, people.
SMC
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:44 p.m.
I have to laugh at the people who are up in arms about losing a little sleep for one night of the year due to a little bit of noise. It's not like everyone waits until 2am to light their fireworks; most are gone within 30 minutes of sundown. If that's too much noise for you, several companies make small devices that can be inserted into your ears, called "earplugs," which effectively block out most loud noises. These devices cost as little as $.50/pair, and can be used for other fun activities, like attending loud rock concerts and trips to the shooting range.
Linda Peck
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 6:37 p.m.
SMC, I wonder where you live, must be far far away from where I live where the booming sounds start at 10 pm and continue until 1 or 2 AM. It is a very different situation that what you are describing. Last night was the first night in the past few weeks that it was actually quiet after 10. I think my calls to the police for help were the factor. I am grateful for one night's sleep in the last two weeks.
Grade
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5 p.m.
Most of the noise is gone within 30 minutes of sundown? Hmmm...wonder what I've been hearing for the last 2 weeks.
pvitaly
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:52 p.m.
And riding super loud motorcycles.
SonnyDog09
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:50 p.m.
or, you could take your hearing aid out. That wouldn't cost anything.
ArthGuinness
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:41 p.m.
I have no problem with it, but don't expect me at any of your amateur fireworks displays. Last time I did that, we got hit by a shell (enough to leave a bruise on the leg, glad it didn't hit me in the eye). Just don't set my house on fire, and don't explode things all night for four straight weeks like you usually do, and we'll all be happy.
81wolverine
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:35 p.m.
The extremely hot weather recently and lack of any significant rain, plus a huge increase in fireworks sales is not a good combination. We may be hearing more than just loud booms over the next few nights - how about fire engines too?
Dcam
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:07 p.m.
Besides the frightened dogs, three houses have burned in my little village in the past few years due to firecrackers. Already this morning I've heard two fire engine runs - due to the dryness, I'd presume. Add in firecrackers, and I'd expect to be hearing many more sirens over the next few days. When they were illegal, only scofflaws fired them off. Legality will bring out many more shooting them off, leading to many more injuries and fires. A law banning firecrackers probably took a long time and a lot of effort to get passed, it was stupid to eliminate it. The same with the helmet law. Once removed, they would take herculean efforts to bring them back, if it's at all possible.
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:21 p.m.
rabid? I could not agree more. As for the M80? Where are you shooting that thing off? Just kidding.
Rabid Wolverine
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:38 p.m.
Firecrackers, in general, weren't ever illegal. Anything over the size of M80's were. Perhaps the parents of these children should be teaching them about safe usage of fireworks/fire crackers instead of relying on the government to tell them what the it thinks they are mentally capable of handling and what they are not.
Thinking over here
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:49 p.m.
Once this 4th is over, can someone calculate the profit Michigan made from the sales, vs the amount paid on police/fire calls/property damage, etc.
Monica R-W
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 3:21 a.m.
That's a story for Ann Arbor.com!
Genboy
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:44 p.m.
I'm very left leaning in my politics, but this is an area where we should compromise. It's a prime example of where libertarianism works -- taking care of one's own safety -- and conservatives can be allowed to have their day. Michigan's economy needs the boost, and this is a pretty palatable way to provide one.
Jack Campbell
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:51 p.m.
How is shooting a flaming missile into the air and not caring where it lands "taking care of one's own safety?" I have no problem with people destroying their own property. This could very well be taking money away from local govt. due to increased police/fire presence. And how much of that $$$ will come back to the city? You think Rick is going to be giving any of that tax revenue back?
Jon Wax
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:31 p.m.
Ann Arbor used to be sooo cool! Eveybody was laid back and people didn't get upset every time somebody disagreed with them. Now it seems like folks actually define themselves on whether or not they are in the majority of every trite issue that comes down the pike. aww i miss the good ole days... You would figure "ok, 1 week or so a year these nerds get to waste money blowin up fireworks. whatever, man. if that's what you wanna do with your money, more power to ya!" As long as they aren't firing 'em AT you, be happy! With todays "walmart-parenting" style it could easily go the other way. Noise? Traffic noise, helicopter noise, sirens... oh yeah! irony of ironies: dogs bark, man. so just remember you folks with dogs? i DEFY you to tell me nobody was ever put out over your dog barking, yeah? and your dogs are ALLOWED to bark 365. us firework nerds are looking at maybe 1 week. I'm one of those nerds. We've been doin it for years. Actually since it became legal this year we are looking to make up for all the years it wasn't. Felt like we missed out. One of my dogs used to get scared of thunder, fireworks, guns, whatever. She forgot all about it come morning once the food hit the dish. dogs can get over it. your kids woke up from fireworks? c'mon man. tomorrow it'll be the monster under the bed, sunday it'll be a glass of water. kids wake up. they forget about it in the morning, too when the food hits the dish. you guys REALLY need to let the small stuff not bother you so much. enjoy the show for crying it out loud. Peace
Use Logic
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 5:21 p.m.
It is beyond me how anyone could have given you a thumbs down, Jon. How much better would the world be if we were all a little more willing to compromise?
SMC
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 8:14 p.m.
That's a fair point. Little girls aren't usually as excited about loud noises and colorful explosions as little boys often are.
almightydanish
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:18 p.m.
@SMC - Agreed, but right now my responsibility has to be a bit more about being protective because my daughter is two. Trust me, I've been reinforcing that fireworks aren't bad, but she's convinced they'll hurt her. We even left the Livonia Spree fireworks after five minutes because she was scared...even though she loves color and light. It's the sound that's the issue with her unfortunately. Once she gets older, I might be able to share similar experiences as you did, but for now, I'm the Poppa Bear protecting my cub.
SMC
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:58 p.m.
My dad took me to to the fireworks display in Detroit as soon as I was old enough to be out after dark, taught me how to light small fireworks properly and safely, and took me on my first trip to buy the big ones down in Ohio. Responsibility and fun can play nicely together. That's what being a father is all about.
almightydanish
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:37 p.m.
Something weird happened Jon - I felt this way before too...but then I grew up, gained responsibility, and became a Dad. Now my perspective on things is a little different. I'd love to go back to being carefree and all. Who knows, when my kid gets older and can appreciate fireworks, I may change my tune since I personally like watching them. But, for now, she's terrified of them and mentions several times a day that "fireworks are too loud" and "fireworks scare me." She's only two and is having a hard time forgetting about her fear in the morning.
hepcat
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:26 p.m.
The Republican dominated Michigan government liberalized the fireworks laws, gun laws , the motorcycle helmet laws and the retail pricing laws and then have the chutzpah to call themselves "conservatives" ! We've got to vote these " liberals " out of power.
Rabid Wolverine
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:46 p.m.
How do thunderstorms effect your life then? I can only imagine you are in constant fear at night that lightening/thunder might strike near your home at any second....It must keep you laying awake at night..
JRW
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:29 p.m.
Fireworks DO affect my life. They are LOUD and dangerous. I hope all the kids with bottle rockets toss them over homes where the conservatives live. See how they like their new law.
Rabid Wolverine
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:39 p.m.
conservative = conservative in the amount that government affects your life and your daily decisions due to unnecessary legislation...
Jack Campbell
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:01 p.m.
More money for the state. How much of that will go to local fire depts that are already low on personnel and strapped for cash? dry as a bone + drunken fireworks display = bad idea.
Ron Granger
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:50 p.m.
Kids will make their own fireworks if they cannot buy safe versions. As a kid, I made my own from sparklers. I burned my hands at least a couple of times. If I had safe legal options available, I would not have engaged in that dangerous practice. Also, people will always have fireworks from out of state. So banning them in Michigan doesn't solve much.
Linda Peck
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:43 p.m.
You can call the police desk at night and they are very willing to help with loud noises after 10 pm. Call 994-2911. I did this and last night for the first night in 3 weeks, I was able to sleep without being awoken by the huge booms. Thank you police and dispatchers! They are here to enforce the law and this means the noise ordinance, too. It is our right as residents to enjoy peace and quiet. Hooray for the 4th of July and I will not complain on that day about the noise.
Monica R-W
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 3:18 a.m.
Linda, Ypsilanti Township has a similar noise ordinance. The fireworks law doesn't supersede this ordnance, so yes, the WCSO can be called in this area for loud noises after 10 PM.
Tom Todd
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:29 p.m.
Wow! now even the police have no power or authority to get tough and arrest people who are being dumb/obnoxious/ drunk/disorderly/loud after 10pm.
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:19 p.m.
They can say what they want, but the law stands at 2am. WCSD has told us this. They will not come out unless something goes horribly wrong. Try a fan if the noise bothers you. Otherwise, endure something that goes on all summer long. I have been told story after story that if the police show? All they can say is tone it down. Happy 4th.
rs
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:40 p.m.
On the radio yesterday and they were talking about how war vets that suffer from post traumatic stress are being negatively impacted by the nightly explosions since this new law took effect. It was an interesting angle on this topic that I hadn't thought of before.
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:14 p.m.
Now we bring in the vets. Do they have dogs too?
Rabid Wolverine
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:34 p.m.
Complain a bit more that people are celebrating the independence of this nation? Complain that you are allowed the freedom to actually set off whatever type of celebratory device you'd like legally for the first time in a long time? If you were in any lesser of a nation your children wouldn't be so "boom"-shy, because they'd be used to hearing the sounds of gunshots and mortars in their neighborhoods from civil unrest.
treetowncartel
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:43 p.m.
60 miles down 94 puts you out at about Harrison Township
Rabid Wolverine
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:35 p.m.
Stop using a lame-duck excuse that Detroit is in shambles to compare it against Syria, Lybia, Iraq, etc...The people who live in the worst parts of Detroit and Flint still share the same freedoms which you all do living around AA. My point is that most people seem like the would like to constantly have their freedoms legislated for them instead of enjoying true freedom of choice.
Tom Todd
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:53 p.m.
Travel east down 94 sixty or so miles and take a look around.
Ignatz
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:34 p.m.
Seems like a lot of grief for the profit of the few. How American is that?
almightydanish
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:19 p.m.
As American as apple pie.
Tom Todd
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:51 p.m.
it's called Capitalism, we Americans think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread,profits for a few scraps for the rest.
fjord
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:30 p.m.
Just remember that even with the change in the fireworks laws, there are still noise ordinances, and if you set off explosions past certain times you're breaking the law, not to mention annoying the heck out of your neighbors. Some of the late-night blasts in my neighborhood lately have crossed the line from mere noise violations to disturbing the peace. Have your fun, but please be respectful of others. Don't light off fireworks at all hours of the night. And don't give me that "it's one week out of the year" bunk ... it started almost a month ago, and I'm guessing it'll go at least another three weeks. Or maybe the inconsiderate dolts in my neighborhood just have greater stamina when it comes to blowing stuff up at 2 a.m. Not that the relaxed law has really changed anything ... it's been like this for years, albeit on a somewhat smaller scale.
KimS
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:56 p.m.
@fjord: I'm shakin' from your great Clint Eastwood impression...have a great 4th! :D
Tom Todd
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:50 p.m.
the 1970's are over respectful of others is gone.
fjord
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:31 p.m.
Also: all you kids, get off my lawn.
arborani
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:28 p.m.
Heat, drought, and bigger and "better" backyard fireworks - the timing is exquisite.
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:12 p.m.
Thats when the problems occur. Alcohol and irresponsibly. Otherwise, I heard three lawns caught fire in Ypsi the other day. Interesting.
arborani
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 4:51 p.m.
Oops - forgot to factor in alcohol.
lurkypsi
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:27 p.m.
I would't have a problem with the new law if it didn't mean mortars going off in my neighborhood until 2am every night. Unfortunately I find it hard to call the police simply because of fireworks.
seldon
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:16 p.m.
Well, they picked a really dry year to change the law. Yow.
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:14 p.m.
How dry I am........boom!!!
tdw
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:55 p.m.
Yes....I'm quite sure they knew how dry it was going to be this year Yow
sc8
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:04 p.m.
Can you run a story about how important to wear sunscreen? And how chlorine used in swimming pools isn't good for you? Or that the air quality is bad and that kids shouldn't play outside? I'd like a little more fear-mongering with my coffee.
Silly Sally
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:35 p.m.
The problem with all of these items, especially the illegal black cats and small firecrackers an the larger m-80s and such is the Chinese made fuses. most last for the expected 4 or 5 seconds and then one goes off almost instantly. That is what makes them truly dangerous. How would you light a M-80? is it a 10 second fuse? 5 second? 1 second? Do you like your hand or eyes? I'd enjoy them if I could buy American made external fuses that I could trust. These Chinese ones are just too unreliable to be safe. Especially for one's hearing.
tdw
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:32 p.m.
I was going to say what Brad said about M-80's illegal at a Federal level.People on this sight should get their facts straight before commenting on things they have no clue about
obviouscomment
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:58 p.m.
"chinese made fortune cookies"...last time i checked my fortune cookies were made in the U.S.A. lol
Brad
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:43 p.m.
M-80s have been outlawed at the federal level for a while, so you won't be buying those anywhere. And fireworks have had Chinese-made fuses pretty much since the Chinese invented fireworks, so that's nothing new. It's like railing against Chinese-made fortune cookies. I've discharged many small fireworks over my lifetime and still have two eyes and ten fingers. Use some sense and supervise the children and everything will be OK.
Elijah Shalis
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:31 p.m.
I am a proud liberal but leave it to ultra liberals to ruin the 4th of july because of the loud noises and nationalism. I remember as a kid fireworks at the ann arbor airport. Bring those back!!!
sh1
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:22 p.m.
How are you identifying "ultra liberals" on this site?
Madeleine Borthwick
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:21 p.m.
Elijah, I too remember fireworks at the airport, also at Buhr Park and I agree with you!! bring them back so those of us who love pyrotechnic displays can get our fix. I remember that there was a charge for driving one's car into the airport; another good source of revenue...are you listening, city hall?
evenyoubrutus
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:18 p.m.
pocofrosty, I had the same thing happen with my dogs. Also, I have two small boys under age 3 and the barrage of fireworks in my once quiet subdivision woke them up several times. When I was younger I used to be so frustrated that those fireworks were outlawed. Now I understand why they were.
almightydanish
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:19 p.m.
@Silly Sally - I wish that were the case - seems like they're going from sundown until about 11:00 or so in our neighborhood.
Silly Sally
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:28 p.m.
They may be done at late-at-night BECAUSE they were illegal. Now that they are not, perhaps they can return to earlier in the day.
transplant
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:17 p.m.
We have common land right behind our house and people have been setting off fireworks on grass like straw for over a week now. We are keeping our hose hooked up in the back yard. I will be glad when tomorrow is over. And pocofrosty, our dog is keeping us up very late trembling in fear at the noise.
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:11 p.m.
More like August. I've noticed once Labor Day hits? I don't hear those things at all.
Major
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:22 p.m.
How'd your doggie doo with the thunder last night?
obviouscomment
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:56 p.m.
bad news...it probably wont end tomorrow
Jimmy McNulty
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:17 p.m.
I'm not sure how I feel about the law change. The 13 year-old in me thinks it's awesome and about freaking time. Today however, I worry more about a lawn fire in this dry July summer, I worry about upsetting my pets (who really don't mind them), and am thankful that my neighborhood doesn't have kids like the youth that I was running around with a pocketful of fireworks.
Forever27
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:59 p.m.
thanks for the mental image of a frosted flakes-style fireworks dilemma. :)
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:10 p.m.
We hosed down our front lawn before setting them off. With the rain today we are hoping that we won't have to come sun down 4th of July.
interested
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:11 p.m.
I'd like Annarbor.com to give a call to U of M hospital and St. Joe's emergency rooms to find out if there has been an increase of traumatic/burn injuries and how many of those people are uninsured? We may be getting revenue from these tents, however I'm afraid that the additional injuries that occur from lighting off these fireworks will cause deficits elsewhere. Oh I forgot to mention, Snyder is against "Obamacare". What shall we do with uninsured people who blow off their hands? Certain legislators were greedily signing in bills that bring more revenue to the state, yet not thinking of the strain this could put on our healthcare establishments, who already deal with having to treat uninsured patients (which causes healthcare costs to go up for everyone else). There is a lot more to this issue than was considered. Also, it is extremely annoying to hear fireworks ALL night long.
interested
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 2:17 a.m.
"One friggin night?" really? That "friggin"night is tomorrow. It's 10:15 tonight, July 3, the night before the "friggin" night you're apparently referring to, and it sound like gunshots and bombs outside of my home...and I have my television on LOUD.
clownfish
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 7:56 p.m.
Maybe it is one night near you, around my house it is nightly and has been since May. People set them off at 10, 11, 12, 2 am or whenever they feel like it. They are louder than they have been in past years as well. It would be great if we lived in this Utopia where everyone respected neighbors, but I live in the real world where they could care less about my sleep or my dogs freaking out at 2 am.
lumberg48108
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 6:01 p.m.
its one friggin night - my god - deal with it there are bigger issues in the world - this is not one of them
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:09 p.m.
As long as the fireworks go off before midnite there should be no problems at all. As for injuries? Make sure there is a fire hose and someone else to help out. Most times it is the stupidity of the situation that makes these things go O so wrong.
Tom Todd
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:44 p.m.
it's totally acceptable to have no respect for others who live by you and there property nowadays.
Alan Goldsmith
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 11:50 a.m.
Thanks Rick Snyder.
tdw
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 11:45 a.m.
For some reason people don't know that you could buy all those fireworks for years in Michigan ( I've been doing it for at least 15 years ) all you had to do is drive to exit 1 on 23 ( Michigan ).The law was you could buy,sell and posses them just not light them off.And the police pretty much ignored people setting them off ( I got caught red handed one time as is I was lighting the fuse when the Sheriff pulled up ) so as usual, you can attack Synder on anything and everything you can think of (even if you want to make thing up) but the new law changes nothing.
ToddAustin
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 3:31 a.m.
Wrong. The number and intensity of fireworks in our neighborhood is many many times greater than it every was before. The new law has changed EVERYTHING.
SMC
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 3:38 p.m.
Sorry Brad, you're still dead wrong, unless I've been imagining the aerial display fireworks I've been buying from the stores at exit 1, in Michigan, for the last 10+ years. They do sell sparklers and snakes, but I usually stick with the multi-shot box type displays, and the ever-popular 3" mortars. The kids love 'em.
Major
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:28 p.m.
I have bought there at Uncle Louie's (exit 1 on US 23)and from the shack that used to be there for decades. They have the best inventory bar none. I've set up entire shows with their products alone. I've been a firework builder for decades as well. Never been hurt, never seen anyone get hurt other than a few kids touching a sparkler...you know the "safe" kind of firework. http://www.unclelouiesfireworks.com/
BAUS
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:19 p.m.
I love how someone who obviously has never been to this store thinks they can tell me what I have bought there. Sure, they did have sparklers and snakes, but I also bought Roman Candles and 3" mortars. This will be my last comment to Brad, as it seems he thinks he knows everything, and I won't waste my time on discussing this with him.
Brad
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:05 p.m.
Sure you could buy "low-end" fireworks like sparklers and snakes and such. And if you had appropriate permits I believe you used to be able to buy fireworks, but without that I still say they were illegal. Here's a link to a page summarizing the law in 2004: http://www.beverlyhillspolice.com/Laws%20Ordinances/fireworks%20laws.htm From that page: "It is illegal to sell, possess, transport, or use fireworks in Michigan without a permit" "HELPFUL HINT: If it makes a loud bang or leaves the ground, spins or twirls, it is illegal"
BAUS
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:31 p.m.
Hey Brad, tdw is not giving misinformation. I used to drive every year from Midland, MI to 7300 Schnipke Drive Ottawa Lake, MI 49267, to buy my fireworks. Unless the state of Ohio allows cities to use Michigan addresses and zip codes, you are the one who is misinformed.
tdw
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:28 p.m.
Brad no YOU are misinformed.The fire works place IS in Michigan.If you go north from Ohio and get off at the first exit ( 1 ) IN Michigan that is where it's at period.I started going the over 15 years ago when a person in OHIO told us to go to Michigan.Read my comment explaining the goffy Michigan fireworks law.SALES in Michigan have been legal for a long time.You get on 1 in Michigan cross the overpass and head north.If you don't believe me look at a map.Even if you were correct ( which you are not ) SALES were still legal in Michigan
Madeleine Borthwick
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:17 p.m.
ok, what is the point of buying and possessing fireworks if one can't set them off?! another idiotic law that's crying out to be made fun of.....
Brad
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:24 p.m.
That's simply misinformation. The reason you had to drive to exit 1 in Michigan was because you were then turning south INTO OHIO to buy your fireworks. So the new law does change a lot of things. "Passed 33 to 1 in the Senate on November 9, 2011, to establish a comprehensive regulatory regime for the sale, distribution and use of currently-illegal "consumer fireworks" including firecrackers, bottle rockets, aerial spinners, Roman candles, etc. "
motorcycleminer
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 11:42 a.m.
The sky is falling ...the sky is falling.......ya just gotta love all the chicken littles .....
JRW
Thu, Jul 5, 2012 : 4:44 p.m.
Maybe someone should launch a few bottle rockets on the 4th of July over your home at 2 am, and you'll soon learn how great this new law is.
jns131
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:07 p.m.
We are thinking of the children. No hands lost here. We are teaching ours how to handle them and be responsible. The best thing is is to make sure you are with someone in case things do go wrong. Otherwise, love those aerial rockets.
Homeland Conspiracy
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:26 p.m.
"Think Of The Children"
dmyy20
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 11:10 a.m.
I'm surprised so many people are upset about this. Quite a bit of money was going towards Indiana and Ohio while it could be going here for fireworks. People just don't like change, so they rebel against it. In a few years everyone will be used to it. Also, you can have a specific city ordnance to only allow arial fireworks to be shot in parks and or away from homes if need be, which is perfectly fine.
northside
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 11:07 a.m.
I'll leave it to The Simpsons to tackle this silliness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqfxmWbelcQ
Chloe
Wed, Jul 4, 2012 : 2:09 a.m.
Marge: Homer, I don't know what you have planned for tonight but count me out...
lumberg48108
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:59 p.m.
awesome
tom swift jr.
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 10:42 a.m.
Just like everything else Snyder does, it is all about the money. This man could care less about the environment, the tranquility of our lives, or the safety of our children.
Homeland Conspiracy
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 11:17 p.m.
@Kims I'm sure they did. But I left the house early & didn't come home until the street lights came on they did not hoover over me & preach fear this & fear that, they let me be a kid! Not an china doll. We even played in the road, climbed trees, went fishing, rode bikes & many many other things that were what is called dangerous...we I made it out alive & all of my friends did too.
Major
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:32 p.m.
I'm with you homeland, I would say this type of mindset is what's wrong with the country, except for the fact that, once you step out of Ann Arbor, you don't ever encounter it!
KimS
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:04 p.m.
@Homeland: Sorry if you don't have any kiddos at home that take priority in your life. I'm pretty sure you were a kid once, and perhaps your mom and/or dad tried to do all they could to protect you...
Homeland Conspiracy
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:25 p.m.
You ppl & your kids. every time some like this ... or ANYTHING! comes up you use your kids as a shield to hide your fear behind. "Think Of The Children" seems to be the only thing ppl with kids have to say. If the world is so dangerous then why did you have them in the 1st place? I want to a live free from your fear & the cry of "Think Of The Children" every time something with a little risk is involved. Wrap them in bubble wrap, put corks in their ears & blinders on their eyes, then just maybe they would be safe...oh I forgot keep them lock in a fireproof & storm proof bomb shelter!
greg, too
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 10:50 a.m.
I hope this isn't his big move to rebuild our economy.
pocofrosty
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 10:36 a.m.
Right now I have a little dog sitting at my feet trembling from fear. Last night aerial fireworks we set off in the Haisley Schoolyard directly behind my house. My little dog went into panic. This morning we have a thunderstorm. She has never reacted to thunder before but since the bombarment of firworks last night she is now fearful. Yes, I know it is all about money and personal freedom but I havce my rights too. For peace and quiet and a good night's sleep.
15crown00
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 6:04 p.m.
it's very unlikely the law will be repealed because pets or kids get scared. of the noise. how about restricting days,times,conditions they can be used.also severe penalties for not following the rules i.e. 5 days in jail and a $1,000.00 fine for EACH violation.
lumberg48108
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:58 p.m.
pocofrosty is right we should cease decades of tradition (and some noise) so his little doggy does not get scared ... yes, you have rights - the right to post nonsesnse.
Spencer Thomas
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 5:30 p.m.
Setting fireworks off on public property is still against the law.
Major
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:37 p.m.
Curious, how did "little dog" do with the thunder last night? My big ole shep was right next to me, scared to death lol...the backyard fireworks earlier in the evening didn't even phase him (sorry to out you Major)
Davidian
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:28 p.m.
Ok - no offense - but I don't buy it. People have been going to Ohio for years to get fireworks. Are you really stating that this is the first time poor Fido has heard a firecracker? I simply do not believe it.
almightydanish
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 2:28 p.m.
@Jason - My guess is fireworks would be considered under the Noise Control Ordinance. If that's the case, after 10:00 PM, folks lighting them off need a special permit. 9:362. - General prohibition.permanent link to this piece of content It shall be unlawful for any person to create, assist in creating, permit, continue or permit the continuance of any unreasonably loud, disturbing, unusual or unnecessary noise which annoys, disturbs, injures, or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace or safety of others within the limits of the City of Ann Arbor.
Jason
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:26 p.m.
Sorry, you do not have a right to peace and quiet and a good nights sleep. It's the Fourth people! This is part of the deal. And this law has changed nothing. Neighborhood fireworks have been going off for years. Now the only difference is we don't have to go to Ohio or Indiana for the good stuff. People have always been setting off fireworks with no consequences for as long as this 29-year-old can remember. Quit complaining and lighten up.
almightydanish
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:17 p.m.
@pocofrosty - my dogs and toddler also agree with your assessment of the firework noise in the Haisley area. Last year, there were one or two people who set them off, but this year, it seems like it's many more folks (it smells like there was a gunfight outside because of all the fireworks too) - and they're setting them off with no regard to the time of evening. We're actually going to have our toddler spend the night with grandma in the country on the 4th just in case.
Madeleine Borthwick
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 1:13 p.m.
pocofrosty, I am truly sorry to hear that your dog was traumatized; would you consider maybe giving her part of a sedative, just to help her "over the hump?" sign me, an unrepentant animal lover who intends to stay that way
obviouscomment
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:53 p.m.
it's more than one week a year...in ypsi township it seems to go on all summer long
Dennis
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:33 p.m.
It's one week a year chief. My dog gets scared too, I just don't think I'm more important than everyone else. Also please don't bring up a good nights sleep, I work second shift and get woken up by people mowing their laws early in the AM all the time. Learn to deal with it.
Silly Sally
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:25 p.m.
We used to give our dog part of a tranquilizer that the vet prescribed during this time of the year for the same reason. Our dog when I was a child was also scared of the noise during the 4th of July.
Homeland Conspiracy
Tue, Jul 3, 2012 : 12:18 p.m.
It you want peace & quite on the 4th of July move to the country...oh that's right they have guns that make boom boom too.