Posted on Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 9:41 a.m.
Group plans to launch second Rick Snyder recall effort
By Cindy Heflin
A group plans to launch a second recall effort against Gov. Rick Snyder, the Detroit Free Press reported.
Rick Snyder
AP Photo | Carlos Osorio
A previous recall effort failed to collect the more than 800,000 signatures needed to force a recall vote.
Recall language has to be approved by the election commission of Washtenaw County because Snyder is a resident of Washtenaw County’s Superior Township.
Comments
jayjay
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 1:34 p.m.
Happy to see this happening. Snyder has duped the very people who elected him. He is a microcosm of what is wrong with America. He divides instead or uniting. He favors the wealthy and those that have versus those who have less or have nothing. He is anything but a representative of the people. It would be nice if he could live in the real world for even a few minutes and understand the struggles of the majority. But when you live in a gilded palace, why would you want to understand that others do not have the same opportunity -- just like Romney's $10,000 bet issue -- talk about out of touch. I now that certain groups want you to believe that anyone/everyone who is poor or has issues has created them on their own and therefore they deserve what they get. That is pure garbage. Just like a lot of the rich do not deserve the wealth they inherited rather than wealth that was created. What is changing or has changed is that we no longer are a state or a nation of equal opportunity. We now have an elite that is "more equal" than the others. Look at the downfall of other great empires and see what in part was responsible. We are sowing those very seeds. It won't be Iran, or North Korea, or illegal immigration -- it will be us and our own greed, the inability to take care of our own people because a few want more/more/more. As the saying goes, "We have met the enemy and the enemy is us"!
jcj
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 10:22 p.m.
"We now have an elite that is "more equal" than the others." You think it has not always been this way? How do you think all the Kennedy's got elected?
jcj
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 10:20 p.m.
"He is anything but a representative of the people" Please explain how he got elected! He did not have ACORN and fake votes behind him!
Sparty
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 3:52 a.m.
Finally, I'm thrilled to see a new recall of a Governor who has alienated and engaged Seniors, LGBT, the poor, middle class, teachers, firemen, police, Unions, insurance employees (workers comp and catastrophic auto), Democrats, just to name a few groups shaken out of their ambivalence and now ready to take on the mean spirited legislation coming out of Lansing by sending a message to the Nerd.
DonBee
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 2:47 a.m.
Headline should say "Third Recall Effort". They gave up on the first and allowed the signatures of most people to expire, than tried again to do it in the fall on the same petition language. I hope this is like baseball - the third strike and they quit trying.
grye
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 8:57 p.m.
If those on the left of center can come up with a legitimate plan on how to fix economy, I'm sure everyone will tune in. However, past candidates only say they can do it without any substance to backup the statement. Snyder's plan was clear from the beginning that his intent was to overhaul the business tax code, to make schools more accountable for proper utilization of the money they received, and to look at the value of govt received for the cost. He has pretty much stuck to his original statements. There was no substance to any plan offered by the democrats during the last election. If you want back in office, come up with something tangible, other than "we can solve the problems, trust us".
godsbreath64
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 10:11 p.m.
Fiction is your calling, gyre. He was hardly clear. You would have some credibility arguendo if he had not skirted a second gubernatorial debate. But alas, ...
Stephen Landes
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 8:11 p.m.
Just another union organizing effort. They have nothing positive to say or do, so they use this stuff as an opportunity to "get out there" and get some publicity. What a waste of effort and time.
tim
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 6:57 p.m.
From Granholm to Snyder = jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Maybe Democrats will get off the couch next election, Snyder has proven that when things get bad there is also an opportunity for things to get worse.
Tex Treeder
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 6:29 p.m.
A recall should be used to oust someone who has violated the law. It is the wrong process to use to get rid of someone just because you disagree with his policies. To recall someone you disagree with: The proper process is called an "election." I suggest that all the anti-Snyder people register and vote next time. What was the percentage of voting last election, somewhere around 50%? Plus a real alternative would help. Nothing against Virg Bernero, but he seemed to give up halfway through the election. I'm sure the Democrats can find a better alternative in 2014.
godsbreath64
Thu, Dec 22, 2011 : 6:51 p.m.
If it were necessary, I would. But is not. It is Richard dale Snyder.
jcj
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 10:19 p.m.
@godsbreath64 "the solution is recalling Rick" Have at it! All the comments you can post here won't do! I expect we'll see you out in the snow with a petition?
godsbreath64
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 9:28 p.m.
Best for whom? As for Michigan, the solution is recalling Rick so he can stop municipal raiding asap and go back to his comfort zone: corporate raiding.
jcj
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 9:10 p.m.
Tex I thought your comment was well stated. And offered the best way to change things in this case.
Tex Treeder
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 8:32 p.m.
I don't think my post is either pro- or anti-Snyder. Actually it may be a little pro-Democrat, encouraging them to find a better alternative. What specific laws do you think Mr. Snyder has broken?
godsbreath64
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 7:44 p.m.
Nice try. He breaks the law daily
snoopdog
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 5:16 p.m.
"A group plans to launch a second recall effort against Gov. Rick Snyder, the Detroit Free Press reported." Ridiculous, the voters and taxpayers of this state will hold "Michigan Rising" accountable "A spokesman for Michigan Rising told the newspaper the organization expects to start circulating petitions in May. The goal is to get the recall on the November 2012 ballot, Bruce Fealk said." Who is this guy ? Need to find out where their funding is coming from, probably the MEA ! Good Day
DonBee
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 5:21 p.m.
Rob - Most firemen, police officers, teachers and other public employees are democrats or vote democrat. So including those groups and Democrats seems redundant to me. Most Democrats were against Governor Snyder from the beginning. So, it will not matter what he does, they will still dislike him. As I said before he was elected, by the end of the first year, he will be successful if everyone dislikes him. He is and he is. Michigan needed very painful changes. Many of them impact people in their wallet. While I do not agree with many of the specific changes that have happened. Changes needed to happen to move Michigan out of a decade long rut. We are not there yet and 2012 will be another painful year.
Sparty
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 3:49 a.m.
And how will voters and taxpayers of his State hold "Michigan Rising" accountable? Should they be shaking in their boots? Or just thrilled to begin a recall of a Governor who has alienated and engaged Seniors, LGBT, the poor, middle class, teachers, firemen, police, Unions, insurance employees (orders comp and catastrophic auto), Democrats, just to name a few groups shaken out of their ambivalence and now ready to take on the mean spirited legislation moving out of Lansing by sending a message to the Nerd.
Billy Bob Schwartz
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 9:57 p.m.
I'm sure the MEA can beat out the billionaire supporters of the governor. Not even if heck freezes over.
Forever27
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 5:11 p.m.
Lets put our efforts towards nominating a decent candidate to run against Snyder. The election will come around before any recall effort could ever come to fruition. This, along with the first attempt, was a waste of resources that could be put towards actually beating Snyder in an election.
Billy Bob Schwartz
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 9:55 p.m.
Gubernatorial election is in 2014. This recall would be for 2012. It would be quicker, but less likely to work. Still, money talks.
walker101
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 5:01 p.m.
Please hurry, I want to drive by and wave when they are outside freezing.
SMAIVE
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 4:57 p.m.
Where can I sign. I voted for him, but so regret it. Gave him the benefit of the doubt and he sided with the regressives, the bigots and the wealthy.
bunnyabbot
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 4:34 p.m.
by the time they get anything going it will be another election.
Sparty
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 10:55 p.m.
Hippity hop, here comes the recall train.
towny
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 4:30 p.m.
Have been for gov. snyder since he announced he was running. Voted for and supported. But, am a little concerned in some of his decisions. He is not only pro-business but I believe he has went to far in this area. Some of the breaks he has made for business have went to the point of hurting this state. The fund he set up for himself that was contributed to heavily by big business did not look,sound or smell good. Overall, huge improvement in what we had the previous 8 years. Michigan is definitely headed in a better direction. This second recall drive will be a costly waste of time.
Elena
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 4:04 p.m.
I was so glad to see this. I think that Snyder has done even more harm to the "main street" citizens and because of this, more people will be eager to sign the petition this time around. Thank you, Michigan Rising. I look forward to helping obtain signatures this time around.
jcj
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 6:41 p.m.
Mr Ed Don't let the door hit ya! As I said earlier talk is cheap.
Mr. Ed
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 4:29 p.m.
I'm planning on moving from Michigan where I grew up. I'm thinking Tennessee, no state tax!
lumberg48108
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 3:55 p.m.
Here we go - get ready for the recall media agenda. Is it just me or do you find the constant recall stories not newsworthy? During the last recall effort we received updates on the progress of the recall effort, like it was an actual campaign. Annabor.com was essentially a PR company for the recall effort. Are we going to get more of the same this time around? A recall effort is newsworthy maybe 2-3 times - when it is officially announced, when it reaches its goals or not, and when the actual election is held. Any thing else is basically promotion for the effort. I have NEWS for you - most do not support the recall effort (obviously) and if it failed the first time it will fail again (as most efforts do.) Setting aside your support or non-support for the governor for a moment, this fact needs to be addressed - why does it seem annarbor.com is an active supporter of this effort?
lumberg48108
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 4:34 p.m.
@ Mr. Ed - as they story states "A previous recall effort failed to collect the more than 800,000 signatures needed to force a recall vote." therefore it failed. If an effort cannot get enough signatures, it does not have enough support. Second attempts have less impact tham initial, when people are more motivated. objectively speaking, most efforts fail - this is fact! Most are also driven by democrats who simply do not like the will of the people when it comes to elections but that is politics. Facts are simple - most dont want a recall or it would have gotten the needed signatures last summer when anti-Rick sentiment was it its highest.
Mr. Ed
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 4:27 p.m.
Lumberg you stated "I have NEWS for you - most do not support the recall effort (obviously) and if it failed the first time it will fail again (as most efforts do.)" Who are most? Did you take a poll? Do you have hard evidence to support this? Are you a business owner in Michigan?
Regularjoey
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 3:54 p.m.
my biggest problem with Snyder is that he won't reel in Schuette... Recall B.S.!!!!
grye
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 3:39 p.m.
How does that old song go? "Second verse, same as the first". When you look at everything Snyder has done, someone has been upset. That is probably a good thing. You can't please all the people all the time. So you do what you think is best to fix what is broken and plan for the future. I am not happy with some of his decisions but the State is headed in the right direction (although many will disagree) and we should be better off than when Jen blew us away for 8 years.
Dog Guy
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 3:33 p.m.
Our MEA can afford it; it's all tax money.
godsbreath64
Thu, Dec 22, 2011 : 6:49 p.m.
Now that is money well spent!
DonBee
Wed, Dec 21, 2011 : 5:16 p.m.
walker - I think Dog Guy is trying to say. Schools with MEA representation are overwhelmingly public schools that are supported with taxes. So teacher's pay is done from tax money So the union dues that teachers pay originates with tax money So the recall effort will be supported by your tax dollars
walker101
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 5:07 p.m.
Unfortunately that comes out of the union dues, maybe after tax money is taken.
Ron Granger
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 3:25 p.m.
Run him out of town on a rail. A very high speed rail.
jcj
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 6:39 p.m.
Take your best shot! Talk is cheap! Sounds like something a Cincinnati basketball player might say.
Lionel Hutz
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 2:58 p.m.
Shocking that any group would even try this after the Scott recall. It cost the MEA about $13 a signature to get the Scott recall on the ballot. The recall was successful, but the cost was astronomical. Further, a republican will likely resume the seat, so the MEA gained nothing. Recalling Snyder would cost about $10 million based on price per signature from the Scott recall. The last recall Snyder campaign wasn't even able to pull in $50k.
Usual Suspect
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 2:58 p.m.
Oh, this is just too funny! It was fun to watch these crazies the first time around, but I never thought we'd get a second opportunity to be entertained by them. But they have a new name now, so that will make all the difference.
2020
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 9:55 p.m.
I'm sure the recall won't work, but I bet there are alot more people out there, including many republicans like myself, that will not seek to re-elect him. He keeps on taking away from the middle class and poor. Example: The proposed $10 per month, (why not just say One Hundred and Twenty dollars a year, per vehicle added to the original renewal license plate fee.) While this new tax may not affect someone who is upper middle or upperclass, the middle class and poor will feel the pinch. Especially, if you are married, have two cars, and both work full time to make ends meat. That is another $240 out of their pockets. What will happen to the original money set aside for our road repair, will it go to the Governor's new bridge project.
Michigan Man
Tue, Dec 20, 2011 : 6:45 p.m.
Oh my! I thought the smartest people in the USA lived in Ann Arbor?