pragmatic

Fri, Aug 17, 2012 : 1:41 a.m.

I've used that crosswalk hundreds of times going to and from the Rec Center on my bike. You need to be very cautious and always assume the motor vehicles do not see you. The crosswalk ordinance shouldn't apply to roads with speed limits over 35 mph. Drivers are not going to stop at higher speeds.

An Arborigine

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 9:13 p.m.

Perhaps a pedestrian tunnel or bridge would be a solution. Of course, that will open up the whole barrier-free can of worms. Then there's always the fact that the city is hurting for funds. Maybe if a bridge was designed such that it qualified as municipal art, the city would have a budget for it?

Jan Tripp

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 8:22 p.m.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the injured bicyclist. I hope she makes a full and speedy recovery. I can only imagine how the young man felt after hitting the bicyclist. As an Ann Arbor cyclist for over 40 years, the thought of getting run over by a vehicle is never far from my mind. I think that this crosswalk should be eliminated for the safety of anyone attempting to cross Washtenaw Avenue, be it someone on a bicycle or on foot. Five lanes of traffic traveling 45 mph (and more) don't mix well with a pedestrian crossing here. A traffic signal at Platt is about the only thing that makes sense to me. I can't see flashing cross-walk lights resulting in more than back-ups to US-23 and more rear-end car crashes The Ann Arbor cross walk ordinance gives pedestrians and bicyclists a false sense of security that cars will actually stop for them. Drivers are slowly catching on (me included) but with out-of-town drivers we may never educate everybody. I've never personally never used this crosswalk and I am reluctant to admit that I've never paid much attention to it while driving. I was surprised today at the Murray Rec Center that my car was parked about 20 feet from the crosswalk. Scary as there are big yellow signs across Washtenaw. I've used the signals at Manchester and Huron Parkway exclusively to get across Washtenaw. The crossing at Huron Parkway is dangerous due to right-hand turners that don't see you standing with your bicycle waiting to cross on the "Walk" light. Sometimes you have to wait for three cars to make the turn and by then the "Do Not Walk" light is on. Best to avoid this intersection completely whether on foot or in your car.

Rose Garden

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 7:36 p.m.

I drive along that stretch of Washtenaw at least twice per day and I never think to watch for pedestrians. I walk along the path there for exercise and I would NEVER try to cross that busy street as a pedestrian or cyclist.

HENRYK

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 6:26 p.m.

I ride my bike all always to get around town and run errands. This is a terrible accident and I feel for both the biker and the driver of the car. Bikes have to be careful and stay out of the way of cars. I think there are too many bikers that ride bikes like they are a motor vehicle.They turn left in the turn lane and all that stuff, not me. I usually ride there on my own little private road A2 has there for me called the sidewalk. And I never liked those crosswalks from the start. We have lights for that. I maybe can see a crosswalk on a 3 lane Packard at 30 MPH.But a 5 lane Washtenaw at 45-50 MPH not for that.

Taz

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 5:29 p.m.

Unmarked pedestrian crossings are a hazard to both the pedestrian and motorest, when one car stops they often partially obscure the pedestrian and the car in the other lane does not see that the car is stopped for any reason. The stopping in a heavily traveled road can and has caused collisions. Even with the crossings pedestrians and Bicycle riders are crossing streets in the non designated crossings. This law is a failure and a danger to all.

Tru2Blu76

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 5:24 p.m.

The entire Washtenaw Corridor from the juncture with E. Stadium into Ypsi is designed primarily as a commuter / commercial artery. For pedestrians and cyclists alike: it's really a version of Hell's Canyon. So arguing moral absolutes is just an annoying, wasteful diversion. The real question is whether it can be adapted to be more amenable to pedestrians and cyclists - and it looks like the answer is... "probably not." As either a cyclist or pedestrian: I take measures to avoid that area and have done so for about 14 years. My latest "adaptive measure" is to plan ahead and reserve a Zipcar for the few times I have to use the Washtenaw Ave. commuter / commercial corridor. FWIW: scientific evidence tells us that we humans are still adapted to bipedal locomotion, NOT to mechanical contrivance locomotion. Since such changes in adaptation take up to around 50,000 years, it "suggests" we have a long time to wait before we can make any morally absolute statements and that we're in for an equal lag in combining bipedal and mechanical modes of transportation. This is a case of a certain kind of infrastructure forcing a rapid adaptation. (Usual prognosis: failure.) LOL! Since the cops & prosecutor's office now have this incident in hand, we'll probably never know what the real motivations or thinking of the driver or the cyclist were - except through court transcript. Woe! Another chance to take indomitable (mutually conflicting) moral stands is ripped from our grasp! ;-)

E Claire

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 5:12 p.m.

"He said the 25-year-old Ann Arbor man driving did not stop before hitting the woman but did so after the collision." Am I the only one who sees the absurdity in this quote? If not mentioned, were we to think that he stopped, hit the gas again and hit the woman, then stopped again? BTW, prays to all involved for a full physical and emotional recovery.

Julius

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 3:40 p.m.

I avoid driving on Washtenaw at all costs.

jpud

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 3:31 p.m.

The crosswalk ordinance is the DUMBEST law ever...used to be the instruction to a driver was "keep your eyes on the road", now you need to keep your eyes on the sidewalk, no, not just the sidewalk next to the crosswalk, but actually the sidewalk up and down the street to watch for bicycles approaching quickly so you can yield to them. What is wrong with a system of colored lights regulating the flow of vehicular traffic, red you stop, green you go? Pedestrians cross in front of a car when it is stopped by a red light? Too simple for the mayor? We need a new mayor, plain and simple. This one is too flacky, and it could kill people with this wacky crosswalk ordinance. The local body shops love the mayor, all the unnecessary rear end collisions from stopping short, it would be funny if this was a Seinfeld skit, but these are real people being hurt by this silly crosswalk ordinance.

Major

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 3:28 p.m.

I hope this person will be ok, I hope the driver will be ok. Scary how our worlds can be set upside down in an instant! I ride my bike all over this crazy town. Almost everyday now due to the moronic street repair scheduling. One thing I've observed, AA is NOT bike friendly...not even remotely! Good thing I have a mountain bike, but even that takes a beating. All roads, all sidewalks, darn near everything I ride on is cracked, broken, uneven, pot-holed, misaligned, blind spotted etc., etc.!! I now believe riding a bicycle in this town is like playing Russian roulette with two in the chamber on five hole wheel. NUTS!!! Yet, that's what I am and I love the adrenaline rush of 1 NDE per hour. One thing to be "right" quite another to be "dead right". Leave the bike at home and drive, live another day!!!

Gretchen Ridenour

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 3:24 p.m.

My heart goes out to this bicyclist during her long road to recovery ahead of her. I am faithful at stopping at crosswalks throughout the day, but this is a difficult one to see in advance due to the hill. And we all know what a "dodge 'em car" road that Washtenaw becomes during rush hour. This needs to be more clearly marked in advance to help prevent more accidents like this. And we should all take notice since the students are coming soon and there will be alot of out-of-town drivers who aren't pedestrian friendly like we are here in A2.

UtrespassM

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 3:15 p.m.

I am afraid of semi-trucks; I am more afraid of bicycles when I drive.

cornelius McDougenschniefferburgenstein jr. 3 esq.

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 3 p.m.

@ slave2 its part of the plan.they put so many microfilm signs,drivers have 2 choices.1-read all signs+drive into something cuz eyes arent on road or.B watch road+break some law cuz you werent reading signs.either way city gets big $$$.

golfer

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 3 p.m.

then pu up a blinking crosswalk light. like the ones still missing on stadium blvd. maybe the money went to the art commission.

HeimerBoodle

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 2:55 p.m.

A couple weeks ago I decided to try my hand (feet?) at using the crosswalk on Huron near Ingalls (across from Rackham on campus). Imagine my surprise when an AA Police car (not running with lights/sirens, just driving down the road) whizzed right by me when I was waiting on the curb. If the cops won't obey the law, I think I'm better off either making my way to a light or playing frogger like in the good old days. That being said, all the best to the cyclist for a quick recovery. Regardless of fault, I hope she's ok!

Carolyn

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 2:44 p.m.

There should be a blinking light system here just as there are on Plymouth Road.

JRW

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 2:31 p.m.

"Stephens pointed to the dangerous nature of the crosswalk, situated just after the crest of a hill that makes it hard for those in the crosswalk and those driving to see what's coming." This sums it up. It's very unfortunate for all concerned, but that particular crosswalk is an accident waiting to happen. Washtenaw is a 4 lane congested roadway with 45 mph speed limits and unless there is a light at a crosswalk, such as the intersection with Arlington, it's not a good idea to try to cross the road. Very unfortunate accident.

slave2work

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:46 p.m.

Another question!!,, What if the driver isn't from this area?.. The signs telling you you are reguired to stop at cross-walks are way to close and who can read them at 45 mph?. If you are watching the road, look away to try to read the sign and boom you are already in the crosswalk. What a bad place for a crosswalk. Seems ludacris for pedestrians or bicyclists to just venture out into any road with out traffic being clear. What ever happened to following the rules of the road?. and making bikers follow the rules also?.

cornelius McDougenschniefferburgenstein jr. 3 esq.

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:30 p.m.

i dismount+walk my bike.then there is no question im a pedestrian.

Fabius

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:29 p.m.

Sad situation, hope the woman who was injured heals quickly. This was a poor location for a crosswalk crest of a hill, no traffic control device. I have a coule of questions though? "She said the SUV hit the woman broadside....." So, the SUV caused the accident? And, who's the girl? "but if he even looked away for an instant that would have been enough time to not see the girl crossing," Stephens said" Is AA.com looking for a proof reader?

snoopjane

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:13 p.m.

I thought that is what the lights at the corner were for. It is hard enough to drive on Washtenaw without people crossing in the middle of it.

Ron Granger

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:03 p.m.

As drivers of heavy machinery - cars and SUVs - we have heavy responsibilities. When there is a crosswalk sign, especially one prominently displayed as this one is above the crosswalk, it is our responsibility to scan the area for anyone who may be crossing. If you feel there is too much traffic to scan the area, or that you are moving too fast to give it an adequate look, then you meet the definition of driving too fast for conditions. Slow down. Wherever you are going likely isn't really that important. Being in a metal cage does not make you more important than anyone else.

bunnyabbot

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 12:57 p.m.

Gotta say the ordinance is stupid. I've waited at a zebra crossing for as long as 5 mins due to cars not stopping or only one lane stopped and just crossed when traffic cleared until it was safe to do so. If traffic is thick and I am tired of waiting I will raise my arm, this indication helps drivers know I want to cross as opposed to wishing they could read my mind. While the ordinance says cars should stop with an approaching pedestrian the islands on Stadium have signs that say "stop for a pedestrian IN a crosswalk" I have now stopped three times on Ellsworth for a pedestrian standing at a crosswalk, only to have them step back and wave me to go b/c they were just waiting for a bus. I don't enter a crosswalk until the cars have stopped. If I have a walk signal I look over my shoulder to see that the people turning aware of me, the pedestrian. I don't have a bubble around me.

TinyArtist

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 12:53 p.m.

I have often "tested" the crosswalk ordinance at the crossing on Main between Liberty and William by just putting my leg out to see if anyone would stop. Alas, the ordinance consistently fails. On a brighter note, I have found that cars are more likely to stop for someone on crutches.

golfer

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 12:38 p.m.

Jackson road bike paths are an accident waiting to happen. wait and see.

psaume23

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 12:32 p.m.

That is not a good place for a street crossing without a traffic light, especially if the speed limit there is 45 mph. Hopefully the cyclist heals quickly, and the city removes the crosswalk markings.

Davidian

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 11:57 a.m.

I really hope she recovers quickly. As a related comment, I really hope that pedestrians are not relying on an ordinance to protect them. Just because it may be techically legal to enter a crosswalk and cars are technically supposed to stop doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so, especially in peak traffic times. I'm not saying this is what happened here. I'm just saying that the ordinance is terrible and should be repealed immediately. When you have a traffic law that is unique to a locality, especially one that centers around pedestrians, tragedy is the obvious outcome.

J

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 11:54 a.m.

Our laws are the failure here. Not too many were aware that there were situations where a bicycle was given the same rights as a pedestrian. It is a dangerous situation to allow a bicycle that can easily travel 10+ mph the right of way in a cross walk. Surprised that so many here are confident they could easily stop for one. I'm a little confused by comments who are quick to point their finger at the driver here... Eventually, with the increased traffic in the area, laws regarding bicycler rights will need to change. Some streets, Dexter-Chelsea Rd for example, are very challenging to share with large groups of bikers on both sides of the road who do not ride on the right close to the shoulder. More bicyclers are bound to be hit until laws change. Roads with 50 MPH speed limits with no shoulder are not safe for large groups of bicyclers.

Lisa

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 11:45 a.m.

I pray for both of them I have been hit twice at lights I believe anyone involved in an accident should have to be tested and there licenses temporarily suspended until the court so orders. Everyday drivers are out there that shouldn't be. I am so angry when I do not see people pull over for fire and ambulance and police. They don't know what they are doing.It just sad. Thank you Seto for having the police back out on the roads my day was a 2-3 hour wait for help no one.The Bicyclists I thought were considered vehicles in the 80's and 90's we spent millions on bike paths that are not utilized. What about a license to operate on the road and testing if people choose to be in the roads ?People are so angry driving these days to be in your 50's and be struck twice head on wrong lane and 30 miles an hour form behind ??? Insurance companies we are forever disabled and thrown away. What about the people Thank you young man for stopping most people flee.That is punishment in itself you will remember this day forever get him some help. I pray for you all the ones that flip me off for following the laws, the ones that honk when you are following the LAW. there ARE BIKERS, GEESE DEER CHILDREN OUT THERE. THE DRUNK DRIVERS TAKE A CAB.The ROADS ARE NOT SAFE ANYMORE!

Wolf's Bane

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 11:08 a.m.

Two things: 1. Ann Arbor has thousands of crosswalks but only selected to add alert signage to a few along Plymouth road. That means other major crosswalks such as this one at Washtenaw and Platt remain without the blinking lights. This is not just potentially confusing to drivers. While one cannot defend this driver's inability to scan the road for obstacles, the city has an opportunity to make it easier for drivers to spot crosswalks in the future. 2. "...did not stop before hitting the woman." REALLY?

Halter

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 10:25 a.m.

This entire stretch of road from Carpenter to the Washtenaw/Stadium split is a disaster area and has been for decades. All we do is study after study on how to improve it and yet nothing has been done. I moved out of that area 5 years ago specifically because it was so dangerous to drive OR walk OR bicycle in that stretch. This should have been addressed 15 YEARS ago, not just now.

A A Resident

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 10:25 a.m.

From the article: " When the ordinance went into effect last year, there were many reports of fender-benders when drivers didn't notice others had stopped for pedestrians, but those reports had tapered off in recent months." That's because hardly anyone stops anymore. After stopping one time in my car, and having a vehicle behind me drive onto the sidewalk to avoid rear-ending me, I probably won't be stopping on my motorcycle. Safer to be ticketed. And if I am, I'll fight it in court, hiring an attorney if necessary. As others have mentioned, it was only a matter of time before this "feel-good" ordinance resulted in casualties.

YpsiYapper

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 9:58 a.m.

I drive to and from work passing this crosswalk every day. The exact same thing almost occured between myself and a person on a bicycle just last week. I would think this ordianace had the intention of protecting pedestrians near the U of M Campus and Downtown. In the spot where this happened I had to take evasive acction and lay it on the horn to get the bikers attention. I was traveling the speed limit and came up over the hill only to have a guy just stepping off the curb. Not enought time for me to come to a stop complete stop even doing the speed limit. A good Idea for all involved is to to familiarize yourself with you usually traveled route and slow down when appproaching these mid block crosswalks. Bicyclists and pedestrains should attempt top have have eye contact with the driver. I was taught as a kid never to step in front of a car ever unless the driver and I locked eyes. At night NEVER ! As far as this ordinance, this was waiting to happen. In fact I am suprised this did not happen within a month of it being enforced. This really should be a wake up call to either repeal the ordinance or without a 6 month study, put up bright flashing yellow traffic lights at all these mid block crosswalks. There is another one on Plymouth Road that is on a curve with another accident just waiting to happen. God-speed to this lady in her recovery. she isa someones mother, wife, sister ect. Same goes for the driver. A trauma like that may require some counseling. I know I would feel horrible if I ever hit a person with my car.

bunnyabbot

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 6:27 a.m.

without placing blame here, many things that I learned in Kindergarten still make sense 30 some years later. Don't spit, bite or pull hair. Look before crossing and walk your bike across. Refresher coarses in Safety Town would benefit a lot of people in this town.

hjocque

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 6:19 a.m.

Hi. I am one of the (apparently life throw-away-ing) people who bike through crosswalks. It has been asked repeatedly in this thread: "Why would you bike through a crosswalk?" I do it because it is completely legal, it is faster, and often much safer, than dismounting and walking. On a bike, I am quick. A gap in traffic that would be too small for a walker could allow buckets of time for a bike. (I never expect drivers to stop for me.) Why do we judge that a human in a car as safe to make a snap judgement to cross traffic, but a human on a bike making the same decision is seen as reckless? I cannot speak for all bikers, but I am not blithely unaware of my potential for harm. I do not want to be hit by or impede cars. I LIKE being uninjured. I think we REALLY need car driver's education to include a section on a bikers, and we need bikers education (a guide maybe?) on how bikers should act as vehicles or as a pedestrian. People in cars too often don't respect bike's rights/safety (making a turn into bike lanes without checking for bikers, parking in bike lanes, never looking for pedestrians, tailgating so that no one CAN stop for pedestrians, honking) or act terrified of bikes (cars that refuse to move if there's a bike when the car has right of way at a 4 way, cars veering into another lane to avoid a bike despite the bike having lots of room). And bikers need education too, on how to signal, when to act like a ped and when to be a vehicle. Police also need to start pulling over bikers than run red lights (UGH). Also: "Michigan Vehicle Code, bicyclists in crosswalk are considered the same as pedestrians (#3): 257.660c Operation of bicycle upon sidewalk or pedestrian crosswalk."

Alex Nickodemus

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 2:33 a.m.

I'm confused. I thought pedestrians (root of that word being "ped", or FOOT) meant people traveling on foot. For all the fighting about cyclists' rights to the road, why is it that as soon as one is riding (not walking, as you're supposed to) their so-called "vehicle" across a 5 lane road in a crossWALK, suddenly said rider is an innocent pedestrian who was struck by a law-breaking criminal? But if they're riding on the street, they're a vehicle with equal rights to the road? (yet, in most cases, do not feel the need to actually abide by the rules of the road, for example, riding between lanes of cars stopped at a red light)

leezee

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 2 a.m.

Please, please, please get that planned light installed at Platt and Washtenaw ASAP! That crosswalk is at a bad location - high speed and poor visibility make a very poor combination. I would never dream of crossing there on foot or on a bike. If I had a the speed of a bike I would go to the nearest light.

Kevin Bolon

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:59 a.m.

This is a difficult area for pedestrians. Here are a few of my observations: - This cross-walk is at the very crest of the hill (not after, as the witness reported) and therefore is at the VERY best location for visibility from both directions. - Washtenaw Ave. needs HAWK signals , both at this crosswalk and at the bus stop across from Whole Foods. - These locations on Washtenaw Ave. need safety islands, so that bikes/pedestrians have a place to stop to make sure that traffic in the opposite lanes will actually stop. Although the article doesn't mention the directions of travel, I suspect the driver was on the far side of the road from where the woman began crossing. Plymouth Rd. has both HAWK signals, and safety islands, and (I believe) is much safer as a result.

Milton Shift

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:29 a.m.

Why is it that accidents are now treated as criminal matters? Does everything have to end with someone in prison?

whatsupwithMI

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:11 a.m.

50mph speed limit on a street with crosswalks, driveways, business entrances etc. is just insane. More lanes makes it worse, not better. I've never understood Michigan speed limits- it is as if every time you regulating speed someplace, an angel fails to gets its wings. This state needs to get its head sorted out.

whatsupwithMI

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 1:05 a.m.

Per MDOT position on other accidents, this is an indication that speed limits needs increased upon this street. Pedestrian safety is a city issue. Sounds crazy, but its the position our state has taken. to change it, vote for different people.

Urban Sombrero

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 12:16 a.m.

How scary! I really hope she's alright. I'll keep her in my thoughts. That said, I really wish the city would use some common sense with these crosswalks. The spot where this happened is in an incredibly busy area. Lights, or some sort of signal to drivers, would definitely help. Yes, I know drivers need to watch but at the same time, a little, "Hey! Someone's trying to cross here!" notification could help immensely. Also, Officer Clock gave me my one and only traffic ticket. I'd grrr about it, but I deserved it. And, he was nothing but professional, so....

einy

Wed, Aug 15, 2012 : 12:09 a.m.

This is an extremely dangerous crosswalk! Before the city reworded the new ordinance, I saw people get rear-ended. But people still want to cross and no one slows down or stop. This crosswalk needs the flashy light system like Plymouth Road has. I would even be willing to donate money to put one there!

jcj

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 11:59 p.m.

Chuck brings up a critical point. Pedestrians and cyclist are constantly putting their lives in the hands of total strangers. I submit that not many would invite a stranger into their home. BUT that would be much safer than assuming every driver can see you or will stop if they do see you. Wise up and stop putting your lives in a total strangers hands!

Chuck Saltpeter

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 11:38 p.m.

I consider myself an extremely defensive driver and I walk and use the bus system a lot and from what I've seen I've concluded: You're better off breaking the law and not stopping at a crosswalk on roads with more than two lanes (one in each direction) so you don't obstruct the view of the pedestrian by other drivers (and vice versa) and don't encourage the pedestrian to cross unsafely. If a pedestrian has committed to crossing and is putting their life in my hands, I'm stopping and trying to get other cars around me to stop, even if that means pulling halfway in to the lane next to me.

Ron Granger

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 11:29 p.m.

As you can see in the photo accompanying the story, the crosswalk has a prominent sign hanging above it, as well as signs on the side of the roadway.

AANative

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 11:20 p.m.

Who in the world put a crosswalk there, Isn't that five lanes? Dangerous place to cross! It has been my observation that this crosswalk law is a joke, not to be trusted, drivers are very unlikely to stop, I will not cross until all cars have come to a stop, or none are around. It is a dangerous trap to pedestrians who think they can trust drivers to stop for them. I love the concept but it expects too much of our in a hurry distracted driving public. This will not be the last time we have to read about this type of tragedy. It makes me sick to think about the Woman now in critical condition who was simply trying to cross the road, on or off her bike, it might have been avoided if we didn't have this risky ordinance, change it!

a2cents

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 11:17 p.m.

What a wonderful location for AA's first ped tunnel

Orangecrush2000

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 11:09 p.m.

I think that a pedestrian bridge should be where the crosswalk is.

justcurious

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 10:55 p.m.

If this crosswalk is obstructed by a hill on a 45 mile per hour busy road, then it should be eliminated. If convenience is the reason for it, then they need to erect a stoplight.

BlueNever!

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 10:40 p.m.

I believe it is a case of "selective exclusion". Car drivers are never expecting to see pedestrians or bikes crossing mid-intersection. Without highly visible lights markers to grab attention, the driver naturally excludes the biker or pedestrian. Same thing happens frequently with motorcycles at turning intersections. The driver is specifically looking for cars, trucks or buses and does not see cycles. Shame on Ann Arbor for putting that cross walk there without providing a traffic signal and endangering pedestrians. (The victim has a good case against the City for documented endangerment.)

trafikskeptik

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 10:28 p.m.

The article suggests that accidents caused by pedestrian crossings are "tapering off": I witnessed one in the lane next to me on Aug 3, on Plymouth near the entrance to the Kroger part of the mall, 30 yards from the stoplight by McDonald's. Traffic was spotty, pedestrian hit the Hawk light button, which immediately turned on (as intended): car nearest her in the curb lane, maybe 20 feet away, stopped, car behind that could not stop in time. Because pedestrian could not walk 30 yards, or wait until four cars had passed to hit the button, two cars were seriously damaged. Having the legal right of way is one thing; exercising it sensibly is another. Because of the fast change the Hawk lights can make, it is possible to create a situation where a car cannot stop in time: choose between a $100 ticket, hitting a pedestrian, or driving 15 mph.

Brad

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 10:06 p.m.

That is simply an inadequate "crossing control" for that location. Too many lanes, too much traffic, poorly located at the crest of a hill and too many intersections with side streets in the area. Just too risky for pedestrians and motorists alike. It appears to have been designed in the school of wishful thinking and worked accordingly today.

Are you serious?

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:56 p.m.

Note: I went by this accident just after it happened and was puzzled there was NOTHING on aa.com last night or even this morning. Why was that? As of of the many thousands of motorists that drive this route several times daily I agree with all the comments about the dangerous nature of this cross walk. Given how backed up traffic is on Washtenaw most times of the day, it would probably not slow traffic down much to put a traffic light there. The traffic will only get worse when the new construction just east of these is complete.

PWJT8D

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:53 p.m.

I hope this points out the flaw with this ordinance and the danger pedestrians and bicyclist have at these type of crossings. For example, the ones on W. Stadium Blvd. No one stops. Everyone is already driving so close and fast that if you were to stop, there is no question that you would be hit. And it sounds like this crosswalk is even worse with a blind crest. On crossings like these, a light (like the one on Jackson rd/Huron just before entering downtown) need to be put in. They warn vehicles with plenty of time and can be seen for quite a ways.

Vince Caruso

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:49 p.m.

We worked hard to get islands on Liberty St. years ago and it has made a very big difference in crossing without a traffic light. Same for the newer islands. Thankfully in AA it has now become standard to have islands in road reconstruction- Stadium, Seventh, Packard, ... We should get them on Jackson when they redo the road to 3 lanes from 4 to work toward complete streets design. Not only are there no islands there are no crosswalks mid block and not even at some lights on Jackson-Huron. These old street designs were for cars only and that needs to change for a host of reasons least of which is ped., bike and auto safety (especially for kids and older folks crossing). Cars are not the only ones using our roadways, they should not be designed like they are.

Morris

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:36 p.m.

First: my sympathy and best wishes for the injured cyclist. Second: Are people RIDING a bicycle, pedestrians or a wheeled vehicle. I was always told that the only time I was a pedestrian was when I was pushing my cycle and when riding it, I was to obey traffic rules. Could the City attorney please clarify this for everybody? As drivers, we need to know how we are expected to treat cyclists.

Holy Cow

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:34 p.m.

I completely agree with A2M3's comment that it was only a matter of time until something like this happened. Unfortunately, more and more crosswalks like this are appearing around town and there is much confusion as to whether people need to stop at all crosswalks or only the ones that make it clear that it is expected. Maybe all of the crosswalks need to have reminder signs that it is the law. I personally think that everyone should cross at an intersection like they always have. How many critical injuries or deaths will it take for the city to rethink these crosswalks?

Paul Wiener

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:31 p.m.

Expecting a crosswalk to slow down or stop traffic is like expecting an email to warn you of a tornado. Putting painted crosswalks on the ground in highly trafficked and poor visibility areas - and there are many - is a naive and dangerous way to handle traffic. It's a "safety measure" that should have been outlawed years ago, because it's deceptive. Unfortunately, there are still many pedestrians and others who actually believe in their effectiveness, and fail to use their senses, common and biological.

John Gotts

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:28 p.m.

I almost got hit by a stupid old lady on Stadium last week. I was walking in the crosswalk in the middle of a sunny day back to my office job near Maple and Jackson from the grocery store with two grocery bags in hand. She was speeding and slammed on her brakes just a few feet before me. Had she hit me and not killed me, I would have made her pay for the rest of my life's expenses and retired to a nice house in the country.

A2centsworth

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:10 p.m.

The ordinance is ridiculous! I hope the poor woman who was hit sues the town!. We live in a town with many transient people. STUDENTS! How in the world do people know there is such an ordinance as there are no signs stating so on any roadway. Washtenaw is the busiest road in town, who in their right mind would think pedestrians have the right of way on a crosswalk with no stoplight? Town officials need to take their heads out of the sand and realize it was their stupidity that caused this accident.

Dana Wolford

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9:06 p.m.

I cal for a light or take out the cross walk! I personally think this cross walk ord is crazy because something like this will happen. I've been saying so since last summer. However, if the city want's it's ord then they need to make it safe!! I agree with the whitness "but if he even looked away for an instant that would have been enough time to not see the girl crossing," Stephens said. "With the clouds and the rain, plus rush hour traffic, that area is a disaster." That instant could have been looking at a mirror. I live near that intersection and go to the rec and personally I'd love a light at Washtenaw and Platt. With the addition of a new school on Platt (SKS) the need for a light seems even higher.

Woman in Ypsilanti

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 9 p.m.

There are no signaled crosswalks on this particular stretch of Washtenaw. This might be a good place to put one. I have been in fear of hitting someone at this crosswalk ever since the crosswalk ordinance went into effect. The visibility is bad. If you are driving in the left lane and there is a larger car in the right lane just ahead of you, you simply cannot see someone waiting (or starting) to cross from the right hand side. If you are a pedestrian and the car in the right hand lane stops, you can't see the cars in the left hand lane either. If there was ever a place that begged for some kind of signaled cross walk, this is it! It also wouldn't hurt to install one of those traffic islands in the middle of the road either.

Floyd

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:50 p.m.

There is a new light that pedestrians activate by hand on Huron near the YMCA on the west side. Every other time I've used this feature, a car has screeched to a halt for the red light, as folks are used to "blasting through" this stretch of road. It still feels only vaguely safe to cross. We need more of these pedestrian touch lights throughout Ann Arbor before we buy more public art installations.

Morton

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:49 p.m.

This is a very dangerous crosswalk. The visibility for drivers and for pedestrians is quite good (the crosswalk is at the top of an incline). The intersection is very clearly marked. The nearest traffic lights are at least a quarter of a mile in each direction at Washtenaw and Huron Parkway and at Washtenaw and Sheridan. The crosswalk connects an AATA bus stop directly across Washtenaw from the Meri Lou Murray county recreation center. I have crossed the street here and it is very daunting. The speed limit is 45 mph and many drivers seem to be going faster. The new Ann Arbor pedestrian crossing ordinance is a danger to pedestrians, cyclists, and car drivers. The Ann Arbor police could write citations all day long if they had someone pose as a pedestrian at this crosswalk. I walk for two-three hours each day around town and I have had three cars stop as I wait at crosswalks since the ordinance was enacted. I have started to stand well back from the crosswalk to wait for traffic to clear because it is too dangerous to try to guess if all lanes of traffic are going to stop because one driver has stopped.

HBA

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:41 p.m.

Wouldn't it be wonderful were there lights at all the crosswalks such as exist at the one on Huron Street that can be activated when one traverses it? This would be especially true on high trafficked thoroughfares such as Washtenaw and Plymouth Road. There are no traffic lights in close proximity to the intersection at Washtenaw and Platt and the traffic passes by that intersection in both direction--very often without a break. If the driver were traveling east, it would seem to me that the hill shouldn't have interfered with the driver's vision, though it might have for the bicyclist. Isn't a traffic light scheduled for that intersection, especially now that construction is moving ahead with the new shopping center?

BHarding

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:29 p.m.

Warning lights make a HUGE difference. I can always see the warning lights on Plymouth Rd. even if my vision is blocked by a big truck or other distraction. With a 45 mph speed limit, we absolutely need warning lights. (or, we could turn every 1 per cent for art into memorials for lost pedestrians.)

a2why

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:28 p.m.

aa.com, What are the rules regarding intent for bicyclists? Ever since the pedestrian ordinance has passed, I've had two close calls with bicyclists on crosswalks. Usually at a crosswalk, I can judge the intent of a pedestrian because they are typically waiting at the edge of a crosswalk which prompts me to stop. Twice, I've had bicyclists ride full speed along a parallel sidewalk and then make a sudden 90 degree turn into a crosswalk resulting in a near miss as I slam the brakes. Would I have been at fault if there were a collision?

simone66

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:27 p.m.

I am very, very familiar with that crosswalks as I use it at least once a week. It is dangerous, BUT, a pedestrian can cross it safely once traffic clears. I have patiently waited for up to a minute for heavy traffic to pass. I can easily envision trying to cross that wide patch of road while cars are coming, and not have a driver really notice a person until they actually hit them. Pedestrians need to not only think for themselves, but ASSUME always, that the person in the car, may not always be fully alert to notice you. I hope the woman is ok.

Matt

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:26 p.m.

I've often thought that is about the worst crosswalk in Ann Arbor. As a driver, I always try to stop for pedestrians waiting to cross in a crosswalk, but the one time I tried at this crosswalk, I was almost read-ended. I've often seen pedestrains here make it halfway across the street, only to wait in the left turn lane (still super dangerous). As a pedestrian, wanting to cross at this crosswalk about 2 years ago, I instantly thought better of it and just walked down to Huron Parkway. Put in a "HAWK" at this crosswalk!

Kilgore Trout

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:16 p.m.

I don't care if it is a crosswalk or if the lights say I can walk intot he street , I still look both ways.

leaguebus

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:12 p.m.

I'll bet they put in a HAWK light at that crossing after this accident. Its a perfect place for one.

insguy

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:12 p.m.

Maybe this crosswalk is in a dangerous spot and should be removed?

mw

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:08 p.m.

I've been waiting for this to happen. That's an insanely dangerous place for a uncontrolled crosswalk -- 4 lanes at 45mph with heavy traffic AND a hill that impairs visibility. Put in a light or take out the crosswalk.

KINGofSKA

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:07 p.m.

There's so many crosswalks in this town that need to be clearly marked. It's scary driving sometimes, and unfortunately, a terrible outcome had to come from this one. Hopefully she makes a fully recovery.

millermaple

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:04 p.m.

I saw a bicyclist almost get hit riding across Huron at the "HAWK"crossing. I was always taught that you dismount & walk at crosswalks- in other words you become (temporarily) a pedestrian.

ez12c

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:04 p.m.

I've stopped there for a pedestrian before. It is frightening for everyone involved. One guy I stopped for would not walk into the crosswalk even though I stopped...I guess he figured nobody else was going to stop. I don't blame him one bit....5 lanes and 45mph. There shoudl should be no unsignaled crossings on raods like that. Calling it the driver's fault for "blasting through" and "not stopping afterward" is just a bunch of people trying to make the situation worse than it is. The way I read it is much different. Speed was not a factor and he could not stop before hitting the cyclist but immediately did so upon impact and jumped out to check on the cyclist. I somehow feel that shows concern rather than a hit and run as so many accuse.

Ron Granger

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:02 p.m.

A busy, high speed road like Washtenaw means drivers must exercise even more alertness - for pedestrians, entering cars, turning cars, buses, bicycles, motorcycles, bus stops, debris in the road, illegal turns and u-turns, animals crossing - everything. And on that road you will encounter all of those things.

cinnabar7071

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:01 p.m.

My parents taught me to look both ways when I was about 3 years old, and as of this date havn't even had a close call. I wont even walk in front of a car if the driver waves me on, if something goes wrong, I'm the one on the loseing end. Protect yourselves people, don't ever trust ANYONE with your life.

G. Orwell

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8:01 p.m.

Blame the politicians that push agendas even when it makes no sense. This was predicted when the death cross walk ordinance went into effect. More people will be injured and possibly die. Repeal the ordinance. I hope the newly elected council members will have more sense and concern over the well being of its residents.

kdadnick

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 8 p.m.

Ann Arbor is going to have to get this right. A pedestrian is someone who is walking. A bike is a vehicle. A person on a bike on the sidewalk may be considered a pedestrian, but if the bicycle is going any faster than a walking pace, without stopping before entering the crosswalk, Ann Arbor has, in effect created an ordinance that will encourage future accidents. I pray this woman heals, and the driver is ok emotionally!

GoNavy

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:55 p.m.

I was not aware that there was a marked pedestrian crossing at Platt Road and Washtenaw. How did such a crossing even come into existence? Washtenaw is marked as I-94B, and is treated as a business loop and traffic throughfare. Are we to believe that 45 mph rush-hour traffic should be stopped unilaterally by the decision of a single pedestrian desiring to cross the road away from marked crossings? Seems like poor policy.

a2susan

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:51 p.m.

That crosswalk is in a very dangerous place on Washtenaw. Yes, the speed limit is 45 mph. Yes it's slightly on a hill and can be hard to see depending on what direction you're driving in. Washtenaw can be very busy and the flow of traffic difficult even for car drivers. I've seen people stranded in the turn lane trying to get across that crosswalk. I would never assume that anyone would stop for me at that location, regardless of the law. Having said that, I hope this woman recuperates fully. And a part of me feels badly for the driver, it must have been a terrifying experience for him as well.

MRunner73

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:49 p.m.

Sorry, I missed the critical condition so I hope she recovers quickly.

MRunner73

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:47 p.m.

Not a crossing I would attempt at 5:45 PM on a weekday. Heavy traffic volume and always seems like a football Saturday. Either way, I hope the cyclist does not have serious injuries and recovers quickly.

KJMClark

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:45 p.m.

It's not a simple question. State law says cyclists in crosswalks have the same rights as pedestrians, but state law doesn't say you have to stop for pedestrians in mid-block crosswalks (except blind and handicapped). It's the city ordinance 10:148 that says motorists have to yield to pedestrians in mid-block crosswalks, and it only talks about pedestrians. Does the state law mean that our local ordinance automatically covers cyclists too, even when it only talks about pedestrians? Hard to say. Earlier drafts of the crosswalk ordinance covered cyclists in the crosswalk as well, but the final version doesn't, and the Uniform Traffic Code (recommended ordinances) doesn't either. Another good reason to avoid biking on sidewalks, and walk across crosswalks. Had she been walking her bike across the crosswalk, there would be much less of a question that she had right of way. Because she was biking in a crosswalk, it's a little unclear. BTW, someone should tell Detroit Edison's drivers, and the dirt hauling truck drivers that UM has hired for North Campus work, that it's illegal to drive a motor vehicle in a bike lane. They're all driving in the bike lanes on Plymouth. Or maybe someone should tell the police that there's easy pickings for truck drivers driving in the bike lanes on Plymouth.

TAG

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:43 p.m.

This is obviously a very dangerous cross walk - signs are hard to see and the speed limit is 45 on a 4 lane+left turn lane road. If nothing else, this needs a Hawk light.

Napalm.Morning

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:34 p.m.

Pedestrian?, vehicle?, or vehicle acting as a pedestrian? . . hence the innate complexity (IMHO: futility) of trying to legislate common sense. I can just imagine the "knee-jerkers" on the City Council are, as we write these message, even now convening to draft a new ordinance making it illegal to strike, with a vehicle, a 55-year old riding a bicycle in a pedestrian crosswalk. . . or better yet ban all motorized vehicular traffic within the city limits. Sadly, bad things happen in spite of the government's self righteous attempts to controll and prevent all manner of happenstance.

brimble

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:32 p.m.

Obviously, this is a horrible circumstance. The difficult thing about this particular crosswalk is that it is at the top of a rise, and it is actually quite difficult to see even pedestrians at the curb. The article does not indicate whether the driver was east or westbound, but late afternoon sun absolutely can create additional visual impairment here. I would not use this as a pedestrian myself -- I have witnessed other 'close calls' here. This crossing absolutely requires some kind of signal and/or a pedestrian island.

Fender66

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:31 p.m.

Though I feel for the woman who got hit and hope that she is ok, these crosswalks are the real problem. They provide a false sense of security that "everything will be ok if I cross at a crosswalk", and "I'm so important that I can make hundreds of cars stop, just because I'm too lazy to walk down to the nearest traffic light". People need to realize that cars and trucks have the right of way on a street such as this one, with posted speed limits of 45 mph. If you need to cross the street, cross at a a traffic light when the cars are stopped! This accident happened at the height of the afternoon rush hour, making it absurd to think that one person on a bicycle has the power to stop the flow of hundreds or even thousands of cars doing 45.

a2cents

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:29 p.m.

"There's no indication of excessive speed there," he said. I would contend that the 45 mph speed limit is excessive for an non-signaled x-walk. Perhaps the limit needs to be raised yet again to further improve safety.

oyxclean

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:23 p.m.

1) I thought bicycles had to be walked across roads? 2) Traffic on a 4 lane road going 45 mph is supposed to come to a screeching halt for a bike rider? During rush hour?

Mike58

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:23 p.m.

I hope this is not the result of the new pedestrian ordinance.

BobbyJohn

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:22 p.m.

Irregardless of any ordinance, pedestrians and bicyclists must be aware that they are vulnerable and must use good judgment when crossing a busy road like Washtenaw. That is the problem with the ordinance, it gets pedestrians thinking that they can safely cross the street, the reality is that, to be safe, one must walk defensively. You don't want to be dead right. Hope the cyclist recovers fully.

A2M3

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:22 p.m.

Another reason why that law is unreasonable. Of course, I hope the woman fully recovers from her injuries, that said, whatever happened to crossing at the intersection and waiting for the walk (or in this case, ride symbol) to light up? It is unreasonable to expect a motorist with a green light, during rush hour on a busy thoroughfare such as Washtenaw to brake 45 to zero at the whim of a pedestrian who can't wait three minutes for a right-of-way symbol? This law clearly endangers, rather than empowers pedestrians, causes rear-end collisions where there would have been none and raises more premium$ for insurance companies that are already criminally gouging motorists.

LXIX

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:21 p.m.

People will cross there between the Washtenaw bus stop and rec center. Stopped there once on a motorcycle (risky) for a pedestrian caught in the median. Lady from Arlington turns onto Washtenaw and drives right by us onto Platt - clueless. Kids, don't ride bikes on the city crosswalks. In fact, tell your parents to avoid those stupid A2 stripes in any traffic.

cjh

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:21 p.m.

you said the man did not stop - how do you know he is 25 years old then??

RunrDad

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:21 p.m.

Honestly, every time I turn right onto Washtenaw from Platt at that intersection I feel like I'm going to get hit. Terrible visibility.

Kyle Feldscher

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:20 p.m.

As SEC Fan pointed out, the Michigan Vehicle Code does state bicyclists in pedestrian crosswalks should be treated as pedestrians and have all the rights and responsibilities as pedestrians (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(aty5qeuqf4hkl4f4pleikd55))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-257-660c). I just spoke with a sergeant at AAPD who said that investigators are still figuring out exactly how to treat this in relation to the ordinance, so it's a little up in the air as it relates to this case on the investigative end.

bobslowson

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:14 p.m.

Sadly, it was only a matter of time before something like this would happen

bereasonable

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:11 p.m.

Michigan Vehicle Code (Excerpt) 257.39 "Pedestrian" defined. Sec. 39. "Pedestrian" means any person afoot.

SEC Fan

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:10 p.m.

FYI: per Michigan Vehicle Code, bicyclists in crosswalk are considered the same as pedestrians (#3): 257.660c Operation of bicycle upon sidewalk or pedestrian crosswalk. Sec. 660c. (1) An individual operating a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians and shall give an audible signal before overtaking and passing a pedestrian. (2) An individual shall not operate a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk if that operation is prohibited by an official traffic control device. (3) An individual lawfully operating a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk has all of the rights and responsibilities applicable to a pedestrian using that sidewalk or crosswalk.

Ghost of Tom Joad

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 7:06 p.m.

I don't think this person can be considered a pedestrian if they were on their bike.

smokeblwr

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 6:53 p.m.

Does a person on a bike count as a "pedestrian"? I thought they were counted as a vehicle.

seldon

Tue, Aug 14, 2012 : 6:52 p.m.

Serious question: for purposes of the crosswalk ordinance, are cyclists who are riding their bikes legally pedestrians?