Police: Two 18-year-olds in custody after shooting in Ann Arbor
- Update: Court records: 18-year-old charged in drive-by shooting was free on bond after weapons arrest
A man and a woman are in the Washtenaw County Jail awaiting charges in the shooting of an 18-year-old Ypsilanti man early Sunday morning in Ann Arbor, police said Monday.
Courtesy of Ann Arbor police
Ann Arbor Police Detective Lt. Robert Pfannes said police responded at 2 a.m. Sunday to the 3500 block of South State Street after a report of shots fired. While checking the area, officers learned an 18-year-old Ypsilanti man had arrived at a local hospital to be treated for a gunshot wound to his shoulder.
Pfannes said police spoke with multiple witnesses and got descriptions of the suspects and their vehicle.
“Investigating officers located the suspect vehicle at a residence in Lenawee County,” Pfannes said in a statement emailed to AnnArbor.com Monday. “Detectives from the AAPD responded and, with the assistance of Lenawee County sheriffs and the Tecumseh police, were able to take the suspected shooter and an accomplice into custody.”
The suspects are an 18-year-old Ann Arbor man and an 18-year-old Tecumseh woman, Pfannes said. They are both held at the Washtenaw County Jail.
Pfannes said charges are being sought against the two. The Ypsilanti man and the two suspects knew each other.
The Ypsilanti man is still undergoing treatment and was listed in stable condition Monday, Pfannes said.
Kyle Feldscher covers cops and courts for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached at kylefeldscher@annarbor.com or you can follow him on Twitter.
Comments
edredneck
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 : 10:07 a.m.
For those who advise on banning "assault weapons", please tell us what you think an assault weapon is. These have been banned since the 30s. So what do you mean when you use the words?:? Police cannot (nor are they obligated to according to SCOTUS) protect anyone from being shot. Only the individual can do that, and it can't be done the Biden way: Firing both barrels of a 12 ga. shotgun from a balcony is illegal if you fire it to scare people off. . As for gun-free zones that prevent criminals from acting, most massacres in the last 25 years have happened in gun-free zones. The AZ gun laws protect people who would otherwise have no protection. The last I read about their law is that if a gun-free zone is established it should be identified that way and have armed guards on duty and should advertise the fact. The only way to stop a massacre is to have someone at the scene who can fight back whether it be a gun or a knife and is trained sufficiently enough to know that possible innocents in the line of fire should be recognized. Over and over again shooters have killed at will because there was no one there to respond. Google "Suzanna Gratia Hupp testifies before congress". Her testimony tells about being with her mother and father celebrating their anniversary in Luby's Cafe in Killeen TX in 1991. One George Hennard drove his Ranger pickup through a window, got out and started shooting. One of the first killed was her father and she didn't have her .22 cal gun with her prohibited by law. Take away all our guns and we will be at the mercy of a vicous power-mad individual (along with his cohorts) can take over the country. Study past conversions from capitalism to communism or fascist governments such as Hitler, Stalin, Pol pot, Kim il Jung and many others. One of the first acts to ban all firearms from the citizens.
brian
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 : 12:55 a.m.
Glad I live in Ypsi. Ann Arbor becoming so dangerous. Go ahead Ann Arborites. vote me down but it is the truth.
ordmad
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 : 4:41 a.m.
The facts are a huge hurdle for your argument. Check em.
annarbor28
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 11:19 p.m.
Bear: So you would rather just lock people up and let them rot for20 years? What's wrong with working it off?
HenryRK
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 7:27 p.m.
These people are killing us. When do we draw the line?
Bear
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:50 p.m.
sure, let's follow China's example! Re-education camps (slave labor camps) and executions! Yeah, that's the answer! You might wish to look up why Michigan legilators banned capital punishment in the mid-1900's. simplistic answers don't generally work to solve complex issues and problems.
annarbor28
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 6:31 p.m.
We are paying for the medical treatment via our taxes. These criminals should have to work off these medical expenses in prison, by cleaning up cities and other places that need help from young strong men and women such as these for labor. It costs about $32,000/year for each prisoner, they should have to work for this. Why should the rest of us pay for their crimes?
Cash
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 9:14 p.m.
Bear, Amen! That's exactly right. Those in power count on this kind of reaction.
Bear
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:47 p.m.
great argument for slave labor, which already exists via prisoners. They work for ridiculously low wages that profit those they work for immensely. Private prison advocates and corporations such as the Corrections Corporation of America love to use your short-sighted, kneejerk argument to their advantage. And you wonder why this country is going to hades in a handbasket.... 'Murika!
Ricebrnr
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 7:44 p.m.
We're not paying for their crimes, we're paying to keep them locked away from the rest of decent society. Semantics yes, but true none the less.
djacks24
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 6:59 p.m.
We are not interested in "reforming" criminals in this country or state for the matter.
JRW
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 6:04 p.m.
Who is paying for the medical treatment? Do these people involved in shootings have health insurance? Not likely.
ThinkingOne
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 9:58 p.m.
Yes djakcs never in the history of the US until Obama became president was a hospital stiffed on a bill that somehow the hospital, the insurance company, or the government covered. Note that all 3 ultimately manage to get their money back by passing it along to us.
Ricebrnr
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 7:43 p.m.
getting a bill and paying it are not the same thing...
Basic Bob
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 7:01 p.m.
rest easy, i'm sure the victim will get a bill
djacks24
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 6:58 p.m.
We taxpayers are courtesy of Obamacare.
Tesla
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:49 p.m.
Law enforcement must have been on to something going down prior to it happening here since Lenawee Sheriffs were involved as well as Tecumseh P.D. and AAPD "Detectives......"
Tesla
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 7:14 p.m.
I didn't do a very good job of reading the article.
djacks24
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 6:57 p.m.
They had to go to Lenawee county to apprehend the suspects which is out of AAPD's jurisdiction. Doesn't mean they knew anything beforehand.
annarbor28
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:04 p.m.
It will be interesting to see if the suspects have prior arrests and were let out to clear the prisons of criminals during a budget crunch. The other problem is allowing juveniles to commit serious crimes and be released fairly soon because of their ages, with little chance for rehabilitation. If a 15 year old commits the crime of carjacking, he or she will soon be back at work as a criminal. Yes, they know it's illegal by age 14.
PineyWoodsGuy
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:03 p.m.
It's not about guns, the topic d'jour. It's about drugs and the drug trade btw A2 and Adrian. Adrian is prosperous; Jackson is not.
djacks24
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:01 p.m.
This must have something to do with that 'wall' that many posters on here think needs to exist between Ypsi and Ann Arbor? So, we can assume the shooting of the Ypsi man was justified by these same posters since he crossed the border into Ann Arbor and a Ann Arbor man was involved
Ricebrnr
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 7:42 p.m.
point of order, the altercation likely would still have happened...just on the other side of the wall.
EyeHeartA2
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:46 p.m.
Had the wall been in place, the altercation never would have happened. Doesn't mean it was justified, just that guns don't kill people, unbuilt walls kill people.
Linda Peck
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:51 p.m.
Excellent work, police departments!
gold&purple
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:18 p.m.
I just wonder, how many times did it need to be pointed out that the victim is from Ypsilanti? I count 4 times in the article. It seems that one reference to his hometown would be sufficient, and then "victim" really would be the more appropriate term, seeing as how he was SHOT.
John of Saline
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:08 p.m.
Beats saying "Dude #1," "Dude #2," etc.
Basic Bob
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 6:57 p.m.
and the point is that the shooter knew a person from ypsilanti
Lovaduck
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:42 p.m.
Good point about the word "victim", Kyle!
Kyle Feldscher
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:39 p.m.
I completely understand, g&p, and I'm not trying to be confrontational, just want to explain my rationale here.
gold&purple
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:37 p.m.
Kyle, Thank you for the explanation. I do want to point out that this is the first time I've ever made this kind of complaint, whereas many of my Ypsi friends and neighbors point this out frequently. This one just really jumped out at me.
Kyle Feldscher
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:24 p.m.
gold&purple - I used the person's hometown, as I regularly do, to help identify who I'm writing about. In this case, all the people involved are the same age, eliminating that identifier. I also try to stay away from using terms such as victim to identify people. I've noticed in these kind of stories that using a term such as victim - in some stories, maybe not so much in this one - can give a false representation of how a person is involved. Here's an example: If there is a fight and one person ends up more injured than the other person involved, is the more-injured person a "victim"? The word ends up saying a lot when it might not accurately reflect the situation. Again, that might not be the case in this instance - as you rightfully point out, someone was shot. But, that's my rationale for trying not to use that term in my stories on a regular basis.
Dirty Mouth
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:07 p.m.
Its amazing how much trash blows around after midnight.
napoleon
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 3:57 p.m.
If the City of AnnArbor was declared gun-free or shooting-free before Sunday morning, this would have never happened. The suspects would have had to follow the victim until he was outside the city to shoot him. If all the surrounding municipalities and their surrounding municipalities and their surrounding municipalities declared the same, all the gun violence would move to other countries and we can all live gun violence fear-free just like Chicago. How aboult we just make America a "felony-free" zone so rapes, car jackings, embezzling, stabbings, burglaries, molesting, etc, would all stop!
HB11
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:58 p.m.
Kudos to you sir!
Macabre Sunset
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 7:17 p.m.
The Ann Arbor School Board will hold a meeting at 3:15 a.m. this week to decide whether to condemn your comment as unnecessarily sarcastic.
Billy
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:15 p.m.
I wonder how many people voted you down before getting to the "like Chicago" part which pretty much cemented in the sarcasm.
justcurious
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:18 p.m.
You are being sarcastic, right?
annarbor28
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 3:55 p.m.
There should be a mandatory 10 year sentence for possession of an illegal gun. And an additional 10 years tacked on to whatever sentence is otherwise issued. For second offense, tack on a mandatory 20 year sentence. These criminals know that they can have guns with little consequences. They will plea and get 5 years, and then will be out with more illegal guns committing crimes. Obama, et al will not address this problem because it is not politically correct. The focus is on those buying guns legally, not illegally. Illegal guns are what killed a 6 month old in Chicago, a 9 month old in Detroit, and an 18 month old in Georgia recently. Where is the outrage about this? I agree that Sandy Hook was horrible, but there is unfortunately too much acceptance of illegal gun homicides involving children in the cities.
Bear
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:38 p.m.
great argument for the private prison industry. longer sentences! Mandatory life! That will stop those criminals from doing illegal things! Sure. Criminals fear such laws more than they fear each other, more than they desire the power to rob victims... Ask Texas how that mandatory 10 year sentence thing works for handguns.
Ricebrnr
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:27 p.m.
"You cannot carry a gun in MI while being under the age of 21, therefore it was illegal." As a blanket statement this is untrue. Minimum age to OPEN CARRY in Michigan is 18. http://www.opencarry.org/?page_id=257 However you are correct in this case because Michigan considers open carrying in a vehicle to be concealed carry. You must be 21 to get a CPL so the 18 yo shooting from the car would be violating another law, correct.
aduggs
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 7:38 p.m.
You cannot carry a gun in MI while being under the age of 21, therefore it was illegal. Logic is hard...
annarbor28
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:49 p.m.
Mr. Delete: If you think that this is a law abiding citizen that got a permit to carry a weapon, and then legally bought a gun at age 18, then you need to get out more.
dading dont delete me bro
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:07 p.m.
annarbor28, yes, chances are, but facts are not stated here. yet there are other comments here that suprise me are still posted. we
annarbor28
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:47 p.m.
Mr. Delete: The chances are overwhelming that it was an illegally acquired gun. "While assault rifles serve no legitimate hunting purpose, and their ban would be a welcome advance after the Newtown slaughter, illegal handguns remain the weapon of choice for killers and other criminals in New York City. Ninety percent, or 2,493, of the 2,779 illegal firearms seized from suspects in arrests in the city last year were handguns. By contrast, a total of 77 assault weapons were seized in arrests in the city, less than 3 percent of the total. In only three of nearly 1,400 shooting incidents last year were ballistics associated with assault weapons." http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/scourge_of_nyc_streets_eZuOUMryiS38ewn9UuFlBM
Homeland Conspiracy
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:39 p.m.
Don't let the facts get in the way
dading dont delete me bro
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4 p.m.
where in the story is it mentioned an 'illegal gun' ?
iCraig
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 3:49 p.m.
Isn't this the part where someone chimes in about the "creeping of crime from Detroit". I enjoy reading the comments from people in my community. One day (maybe with Google glasses) we will be able to spot someone in a crowd and say "hey that's Basementdweller who made that close minded comment last week". Oh the vast potential of technology.
EyeHeartA2
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 5:44 p.m.
So, just to be clear here: You are putting words in an imaginary commentators mouth and then criticizing them for the comment they didn't make. Got it. Good job there.
smokeblwr
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 3:29 p.m.
I'm gonna guess drugs or women were involved in the dispute.
a2cents
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 2:57 p.m.
More guns might help?
glimmertwin
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 3:40 p.m.
Or just be a better shot.
Craig Lounsbury
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 2:44 p.m.
" The Ypsilanti man and the two suspects knew each other." This is a bit comforting to know for many folks. i prefer that to "random".
aabikes
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 2:24 p.m.
What kind of gun was it? How did they get it?
aabikes
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 11:51 p.m.
"most gun violence victims don't actually die of their wounds, unlike victims of baseball bats and the like" Also. Incorrect. The likelihood that a death will result is significantly increased when either the victim or the attacker has a firearm. For example, the mortality rate for gunshot wounds to the heart is 84%, compared to 30% for people who sustain stab wounds to the heart. http://www.journalacs.org/article/S1072-7515(97)00144-0/abstract
aabikes
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 11:45 p.m.
Cory C. You're wrong. For cripes sake, google before you speak. http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/baseballbats.asp
Cory C
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 11:31 p.m.
My reason behind the comparison is that more people were killed by baseball bats than guns last year. And the year before that. And the year before that. Go look at the FBI crime stats, they tell the story. Dood.
Robert E.
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 10:34 p.m.
Wow Mr Cory dood...equating guns with baseball bats....no wait, baseball bats are worse...there has been a spike in baseball bat related violence lately so I see your point...your antilogic makes me sick to my stomach...didnt realize I was debating a hardcore gun fanatic...my family hunts by the way...just dont see any reason for assault weapons or handguns...God help you sir...
Cory C
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 9:58 p.m.
Robert E. If you'd like to see all guns banned, please move to Australia or Britain. Where all (ok, most) guns are banned, and the only armed people are the criminals. I would prefer to keep my firearms and not see a 200% spike in violent crime. Where the police are re-arming themselves due to the gangs that they can't handle when unarmed. The point of all this of course is that violence isn't the fault of the gun. Nor is gun control an effective way of stopping violence. Violence will happen with or without the gun, and without the gun it's much bloodier and more deadly (most gun violence victims don't actually die of their wounds, unlike victims of baseball bats and the like).
Robert E.
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:37 p.m.
Isolated events? What planet are you on Cory C? It isnt an either/or question...I agree with you about Chicago as well...ban all assault weapons AND handguns...regardless of the type of gun used, these are no longer isolated events...
Cory C
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:18 p.m.
No Robert E. actually I was more referencing the 500 deaths in Chicago. But obviously 30 kids in Newtown is worse than 42 people every month in Chicago (which is just one city), so we should go after assault weapons instead of battling the real problem of gun crime. Please tell me more about how mass murders are such a massive problem in the U.S. that we need to create laws based on isolated events. Because that's always a great idea.
John of Saline
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 8:05 p.m.
Robert, your argument isn't convincing. I think there weren't enough question marks.
Robert E.
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 4:58 p.m.
Are you kidding me Cory C??? Your statement in effect ridicules what happened at Newtown and Aurora and many many other places where assault weapons were used..."man is shot with handgun therefore we should not ban assualt weapons"??????????? Please spare us the nonsense...
Cory C
Mon, Mar 25, 2013 : 3:25 p.m.
Most likely a black handgun. We should ban assault rifles to fix this. Makes sense.