U-M student sexually assaulted in 6th recent attack in Ann Arbor
A University of Michigan student was grabbed from behind and fondled by a man as she was walking to her car Tuesday night in a parking lot in the 700 block of South State Street, a university police crime alert said.
The 21-year-old victim broke free, ran to an apartment and called police, authorities said. She was not injured in the 11:30 p.m. attack.
It's unclear whether it's related to five other recent attacks on women in the city between July 15 and July 18, Ann Arbor police spokeswoman Lt. Renee Bush said. Tuesday night's attack occurred in the same block as the first of the two rapes on July 18.
About 12:40 a.m. July 18, an 18-year-old Ann Arbor woman was returning from a party and walking in the 700 block of South State Street when a man grabbed her, pulled her behind a wall and raped her, police said. About 10:30 p.m. that night, a man followed a 26-year-old Ypsilanti woman into an elevator in the Liberty Square parking structure and raped her.
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Three other women were assaulted between 10:10 p.m. July 15 and 2 a.m. July 16 on Thompson Street, North Division Street and Greenwood Avenue. In all cases, women walking alone were attacked late at night or early in the morning and apparently targeted at random.
Remy Sarhan, 20, who is going to be a junior at U-M in the fall, said Tuesday's attack occurred right outside her apartment building.
"Our parking lot is very scary to walk to even if you're just grabbing something from your car," she said. "It's very dark back there and very secluded. My friends and I never walk alone. You just never know what's gonna happen."
In the latest case, the attacker was described as tan, 5 feet, 10 inches to 6 feet tall, with no facial hair. He was wearing a black hooded sweatshirt with the hood pulled up, blue jeans and black sunglasses, the alert said.
Police released a composite sketch last week of the man believed to be responsible for the first of the two rapes on July 18. Investigators have three other composite sketches, one of which is expected to be released at a press conference scheduled for 11 a.m. today on the 4th floor of the justice center at 301 East Huron Street, Bush said. Police said they are not sure how many attackers there are.
Crime Stoppers is offering up to a $1,000 reward for information leading to an arrest in any of the attacks.
Anyone with information can call the Ann Arbor Police Department's confidential tip line at (734) 794-6939 or Crime Stoppers at 1 (800) SPEAK UP.
Lee Higgins covers crime and courts for AnnArbor.com. He can be reached by phone at (734) 623-2527 and email at leehiggins@annarbor.com.
Comments
rrt911
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 11:38 a.m.
Ok, now this is ridiculous. Even I am shaking my head. What does it take for you to stop walking alone at night? I am a woman, but I am not living in a cave. What could possibly possess you to continue this while there is a rapist overpowering women. No, you are still not asking for it, there is still no excuse. You don't love yourself enough. Stop walking alone in the dark until this stops!
Terri
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 3:37 p.m.
It won't stop when this guy is caught. So much for women's autonomy, I guess?
JGS
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 3:04 a.m.
Wow! Lots of time and energy wasted on this anonymous forum. I'd love to see everyone (me included) at a face to face meeting and see who says what there. Ahh the good old internet and the keyboard courage. Gotta love technology. Bitterness abound... whew!
Isabelle
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 2:56 a.m.
Thanks so much for all of the advice everyone has been posting. I'd also like to give a big thumbs up for the AAPD; the increase in patrol has been amazing! I saw a policeman walking through the library today, and saw about four or five cars on State St in the matter of just a few minutes. Although this doesn't mean that every girl is protected at every moment, it definitely relieves some of the stress. Be safe out there ladies. If you another girl walking alone, walk with her (if you're a girl, of course...no need to freak her out, guys)! Not everyone is fortunate enough to have friends around this summer to walk with. Keep your eyes out for this/these guy/guys! He looks like your average Joe, but many of us walk the same streets as him. Let's get him!
Not from around here
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 7:15 p.m.
How about calling some of the open carry crowd to take some strolls around town? I haven't bothered to get my CCW yet but I'd be happy to strap on one and walk with the take back the night crowd.
Ricebrnr
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 10:53 p.m.
Accident waiting to happen? I'm sure you'd be as offended if I stated the same of you and your driving.. Sucks being painted by a broad and ignorant brush, yes? People like you look down on the rest of us, then when you need help in defense of you and your loved ones, you call ARMED people to come rescue you. Yes hoplophobe covers but part of it, hypocrite defines the other.
David Paris
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 7:17 p.m.
Totally unnecessary, and entirely the wrong approach. Please keep your guns at home, they are not welcome. I know, I know, I know, possessing a CCW, and carrying a gun makes YOU feel safe, but ONLY you, it does nothing positive for the rest of us, and you should accept that. Call me a hoplophobe if you want, I really don't care, just stay away from us with your "accidentwaitingtohappen".
Ricebrnr
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 5:01 p.m.
""That's not "Take Back the Night," that's "Take Back Vigilantism."" then you should be ashamed because your comment plainly speaks otherwise.
Terri
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 3:39 p.m.
Oh, wait, I know what hoplophibia is. You're wrong that I have it, though. I grew up with guns, come from a hunting family and have law enforcement within our circle of long-time family friends.
Terri
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 3:36 p.m.
What in the word is a "hoplophobe"?
a2citizen
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 10:32 p.m.
Terri, your "rehab" obviously doesn't work. So why don't you give this commenter a shot (no pun intended).
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 10:20 p.m.
I don't suppose it occurred to you that legally armed and openly carrying men and women together with this group just might have even more deterrent value to the criminals and rapists than just you ladies marching alone? Vigilantes indeed.
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 10:11 p.m.
See that is wat I thought. Open cary is perfectly legal ,and has shown to prevent crime. So a 'mob' of people showing rapists the force of their collective is somehow ok and a peaceful demonstration whereas openly carrying guns in support of the same is vigilantism? Sexist and a hoplophobe
Terri
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 8:30 p.m.
That's not "Take Back the Night," that's "Take Back Vigilantism."
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 7:45 p.m.
But will the Take Back the Night Crowd welcome us?
Terri
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:23 p.m.
And for those suggesting that women's locations or whatever are the problem, I suggest this helpful material: <a href="http://www.menendingrape.org/Rape%20of%20Mr.%20Smith.pdf" rel='nofollow'>http://www.menendingrape.org/Rape%20of%20Mr.%20Smith.pdf</a>
Smart Logic
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:15 p.m.
UM is not helping matters with their long standing ban on legal concealed carry of firearms. They know best and do not allow law abiding citizens with clean criminal records to thoroughly defend themselves, even in the wake of tragedies like Virginia Tech.
Smart Logic
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 8:18 p.m.
Mick52: the law gives individual businesses the right to disallow concealed carry if they choose. Other businesses like Briarwood Mall also restrict it. As a upstanding citizen with a spotless police record it is frustrating to see businesses and the university show such a high level of ignorance.
Mick52
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 6:20 p.m.
When that ordinance came out, I was frustrated. I am not sure about the language of the state law, that is, that it gives universities the ability to pass such a law contrary to the state law. What irks me the most is how is a person supposed to know that the UM has circumvented a state law? I don't see any signs.
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:09 p.m.
As a retired social worker, I know that many men who forcibly rape were sexually abused as children. To prevent rape, we must also deal with the issue of child sexual abuse. Statistics indicates that, at least, 1 in 4 women is sexually abused as a child and 1 in 6 men. There is a mentality in our society that suggests that women are merely sexual toys to be played with by men. Check out the videos, movies, magazines and other "entertainment" in our culture. The internet provides sites where people can virtually fondle women and children. Men are also presented as unable to control their sexual desires. If this were true, it would not be safe to be anywhere, as teenagers have sexual thoughts several times per hour. Many men state to women that they "have a right to sex" at the end of a date. After all, they paid for it or "you led me on." Date rape is extremely common. According to news reports, rapes at fraternity house parties appear to be common. Gay men are raped by straight men as a show of power, as are straight men. Any type of sexual assault is an action to demonstrate power over another person. If we are to be truly safe in any location, this issues must be dealt with.
Fatkitty
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:47 p.m.
FWIW, interesting and valuable information here: Rape: Psychology, Prevention and Impact <a href="http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1981/3/81.03.06.x.html#p" rel='nofollow'>http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1981/3/81.03.06.x.html#p</a>
Terri
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:42 p.m.
You want to protect women, guys? You want to tell us how to protect ourselves? Call your friends on it every time they tell you some dumb story about getting a woman drunk and then having sex with her. Call them on it when they joke about raping women. Challenge them to call THEIR friends on joking or bragging about rape. As it's primarily men who rape women, I see no reason to put the responsibility on women to solve the problem by taking classes, carrying weapons and being afraid to be out in public after dark. Every man who's commented here with suggestions for what women can do--ask yourself what YOU can do. And then DO IT.
Ricebrnr
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 5:03 p.m.
well my idea of teaching women how to defend themselves from attack, male or otherwise is out...
Terri
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 3:35 p.m.
For the record, I'm not a social worker (and I think it's ridiculous to use that for name-calling), I don't rehab sex offenders, and my comments are "sexiest" OR "sexist," which is what I suspect you meant. You don't like my ideas for what men can do--fine. What are YOUR ideas for what men can do?
EyeHeartA2
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 1:43 p.m.
"Call them on it when they joke about raping women." I do. Every time. So far it has been zero times.
Charlie Brown's Ghost
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 1:10 a.m.
"Call your friends on it every time they tell you some dumb story about getting a woman drunk and then having sex with her. Call them on it when they joke about raping women" Excuse me, but some of us don't have people like that as friends, and never have. The suggestions made for women here are not solutions, but are things that unfortunately need to be done at the moment until the problem is solved.
a2citizen
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 10:29 p.m.
Terri, you are the one who is trying to "rehab" sex offenders. I know I'm just another ignorant 50 year old male that has never heard anyone brag about rape (like Tim), but I think trying to "rehab" sex offenders is a bunch of psycho babble for social workers. I wonder if this offender(s) was one of your "rehab" projects. What can I do? Just look out for my family while you social workers "Man up" and "rehab" rapists.
linuxtuxguy
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 9:24 p.m.
The few times I have overheard conversation about a male having sex with a drunk female, the male was also extremely drunk at the time.
tim
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 9:12 p.m.
I've been on this earth over 50 years and have never heard anyone brag about rape or admit to it. Your comments are very sexiest. I would be thought of as being racist if I singled out a race and told them to tell their thug friends to stop committing crimes ( making the assumption that their friends are thugs).
Terri
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 8:38 p.m.
Wow. I think it's incredibly telling that what I'm describing is seen as "anti-male agenda" and "painting with a broad brush" and saying that "all men rape." Let me say this again. MOST OF THE RAPES AGAINST WOMEN ARE PERPETRATED BY MEN. This is NOT the same as "all men rape women" OR "all rapes against women are by men" OR "women are never raped by women" OR "men are never raped." I am THRILLED that none of you know anyone who would ever take advantage of a woman sexually in any kind of situation at any point in their lives AND that you mysteriously know that NO MAN WITH WHOM YOU HAVE EVERY COME INTO CONTACT would EVER joke about rape or disrespect women. Because they love God and their moms. Or something. I don't live in that world. I live in a world where six women have been assaulted since the middle of the month. There's at least one guy--he probably loves his mom, he might even love God--raping women and feeling good enough about his success that he's raping more women. There might even be another guy raping women because this FIRST guy is succeeding and HEY! WHY NOT!? You can either continue to complain about you and EVERY MAN YOU KNOW being unfairly misrepresented by the man-hating lesbians who can spell, or you can man up and make a plan to help solve this problem. Your choice.
Not from around here
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 7:12 p.m.
Terri, you and your partner are on record with your anti male agenda. please do not use this tragic situation to further your own opinion. I know of several situations were women have raped other women. Ask some of the guards at the huron womens facility and they can enlighten you. Having said that, the conversation has never come up with my freinds but we're all god fearing, gun lovin' mamma boys that would never consider such and act and would be more than willing to stop it if we came upon it by what ever means we needed to use.
Mick52
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 6:25 p.m.
Not sure who you are hanging around with Terri, but I have never been in the company of a man who joke or brag about raping women, nor men who tell stories about getting women drunk and having sex with them. I hope you are not implying that most, or any significant percentage of men, have such conversations.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:32 p.m.
So you are taking your experiences and making generalizations to an entire gender. Stop painting with broad strokes. Yes, you did make a generalization that the majority of men joke about getting a woman drunk and having sex with her. Not all men have friends like that and if so, not all men tolerate that. Yeah, and I worked for 3 years at a residential treatment facility for teenage boys in Albion. Spent a good deal of time with youth sex offenders. Let me tell you, they all have triggers. Just bacause you might not see it, but they're there. Blaming men as a whole for not corralling in our own gender is assinine.
Terri
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:21 p.m.
I've NEVER said that all men rape. I've never said that all rapists are men. What I've SAID is that it's primarily men who rape women. Show me the statistics that prove otherwise--and "99.99999999999%" isn't a statistic, it's an opinion. For a few years, I worked in a residential rehabilitation center for felony-level sex offenders and my biggest take-away lesson was this: In the over 200 men (I worked inpatient--it was all men) who came through the program with whom I had contact, there was only ONE who set off any alarm bells for me. ALL OF THE OTHERS could have been friends with my brother or guys my dad might play golf with every week. I know as well as anyone (and apparently better than some) who typically rapes women--they're our brothers, our boyfriends, our close friends or relatives. And the rest of the men who rape women? They're YOUR boyfriends or brothers or close friends or relatives. The idea that because YOU don't rape you have ANY RIGHT AT ALL to be offended when I talk about "men who rape" is crap. Man up and help solve the problem instead of whining about how misrepresented you are.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:07 p.m.
Spot on Ricebrnr
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:58 p.m.
With all due respect to you and to previous victims, that comment is assinine. YOU are always and ever responsible for your self including your own safety. Your comment is akin to saying, I drive just fine, why should I have to pay extra for seatbelts and use them? It's everyone else's responsibility to not crash into me. I do want to protect women. I'm doing here what I offer to all my lady friends. Telling women it's ok to go out with blinders on is not.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:59 p.m.
Not every man jokes about rape as it is completely inappropriate. I would gather that if any man knew of an aquiantance(sp) that did something like this, he would report it, but your assuming stereotype that all men glorify this behavior is not well received. Your comments reagrding women not being responsible are not received well either. Not all men harm women. 99.99999999 etc.% of men respect women. You may generalize, but it is incorrect. You sound completely fine with women not taking classes in self-defense and that may be fine, but you are then presuming that it doesn't matter and shouldn't factor into the equation for how women can prevent an assault. Stating that men should teach other men not to harm women.....is ridiculous. Thank you for marginalizing all men who have been raped by women by your comments. Thank you for your assumption that all men glorify rape and joke about with their friends.
Fatkitty
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:57 p.m.
As it's primarily snakes who bite people while in the snake pit, I see no reason to put the responsibility on people to solve the problem by taking classes, carrying weapons and staying out of the snake pit.
Terri
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:38 p.m.
I want to know what men are doing to discourage their friends and colleagues from pulling crap like this.
Ricebrnr
Fri, Jul 29, 2011 : 6:36 a.m.
Again with this mantra. What in the hell do you think good men in general are supposed to do? Your perspective is radically skewed. It's the same "rationale" as gun free zones and gun bans. Criminals don't follow the laws. Good people already are not out raping other people. Good people do not knowingly have friends and acquaintances who do not respect women. You can't control criminals, you can only modify YOUR OWN behaviour in response to them. That's why we offer advice here. Follow it or not but your diatribes against all men...well change men to race or sexual orientation and see it for what it really is..
Terri
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 3:33 p.m.
"More than women, for sure." Huh. Then it should be easy to tell me what, exactly, men are doing, other than telling women to make better choices.
a2 Brute?
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 6:24 a.m.
More than women, I'm sure.
Not from around here
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 7:09 p.m.
Terri, you and your partner are on record for your anti male perspective. Please don't use a tragic situation to further your agenda
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:39 p.m.
well if people like me had friends like that, those friend can expect a come to Jesus meeting for sure.
Meg
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:31 p.m.
Considering that rape survivors tend to blame themselves for "not doing more", do any of the posters lecturing women on what to do stop to consider the effects of their patronizing words on survivors of these or any rapes who might be reading?
EyeHeartA2
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 8:56 p.m.
"I challenge you to look a rape survivor in the eye and tell her she wouldn't have been raped if she had fought harder, or better, or more" I don't think anyone is saying that. Would you like to look a girl who was raped in the eye if she could have got away by a simple punch to the groin? But nobody ever told her? Different side of the same coin. One fact that has been proven is you are better off fighting than not. For instance, you are better off running and risking getting shot than getting into a vehicle. At that point due to bad luck, you have been delt a raw deal. It is up to you to figure out how to make the best of and unfair, bad situation. You best odds in coming out of it with minor injuries are to fight back. To advocate otherwise is irresponsible.
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 7:51 p.m.
Men AND women these days YES do need to be told to fight. Both sexes have been taught that physical altercations are bad, period and people go through their lives thinking they won't need to defend themselves except from a tongue lashing. Nothing can be further fro the truth. I didn't want to say it but I think it's clear that you have residual issues with yourself and your tragedy that have nothing to do with what anyone here has said or meant. You can certainly block me and the others who offend you and then you won't have to see our "condescending" information.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 6:35 p.m.
Then please tell me, what can men say/do to be supportive.
Meg
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 6:22 p.m.
Supportive? Sure. Victim-blaming in the guise of being "helpful"? Not so much.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 6:04 p.m.
would you prefer men to just say "meh..." when things like this happen. Or "well, that guy must be crazy"? We can't say anything encouraging or be empathetic to the victims? And if we say nothing, we're just silently supporting the a-hole? Men are just damed if we do and damed if we don't huh?
Meg
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:59 p.m.
Your ideas aren't novel. They're not anything survivors haven't heard a thousand times, from themselves and from others. Do you really think women are so dense we need to be toldto resist a physical attack? That's the patronizing tone of your comments.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:53 p.m.
@meg-I have not nor will not say that if you take classes and fight back it WILL prevent the assault. Just like how protective equipment CAN prevent serious injury in sports, it can't prevent, but it CAN help. It CAN be a deterrent, not a for sure thing though. I will always encourage all people men and women to study disciplines of self-defense because it can help and is a great cofidence booster. And yes, I do realize and understand that sexual assault has more to do with the mental, for both victim and assailant then it is physical.
Meg
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:45 p.m.
Once again,you don't get it. Whether it's an inability to understand a short step from "women should do XYZ because it will keep them from being raped" to "you were raped because you didn't do XYZ" or you're just willfully obtuse, I can't say. I don't need condolences. What I need is to not have the message from people like you to my daughter be "if you're raped it's because you didn't do enough". That is what you're saying,whether you choose to recognize it or not.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:38 p.m.
And if self-defense classes wouldn't be available for women and no one would advocate for women to take classes, would you be "all up in their grill" too? Many domestic violence organizations do encourage these types of courses/disciplines while still offering services to victims. Is that impossible to do?
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:36 p.m.
Sigh... wishing you good day is not the same as wishing others bad luck. You can keep telling me I have said "Bad Luck to You" but that will not make it so. Truly, condolences on your troubles, and have a great day. No offense to ANYone else intended.
Meg
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:34 p.m.
You don't get it. At all. But, then, why would you? I challenge you to look a rape survivor in the eye and tell her she wouldn't have been raped if she had fought harder, or better, or more. Because that takes some cojones and a heart of ice. Then think about what you would tell your sister or your wife or your mother or your daughter. Would you tell her that her odds would have been better if she'd just fought harder? If you wouldn't say it to your sister, don't say it to anyone, even anonymously.
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:26 p.m.
For everything I've already said, even if employed can a woman still be attacked and raped? Yes, yes unfortunately it can. But here is a simple equation. Right on these "pages" 6 attacks. 3-4 managed to get away. 50-66% odds of escape sound better than 0% chance. I've not blamed victims or stated rapes occur because women don't do enough nor have I absolved rapists of there culpability. I'll refrain from further comment to you out of respect for your experiences.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:26 p.m.
Not saying "didn't fight enough". Never will. Encouraging you and all women TO fight, period.
Meg
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:14 p.m.
Do you have any research evidence that rapes occur because women don't do enough? I'll save you the effort of looking: there isn't any. So your "helpful" suggestions? Pretty much useless macho posturing that relieves the actual perpetrators of any responsibility for their actions: their victim just didn't fight hard enough, right? I've accompanied rape survivors to the hospital and to court. I am a rape survivor. Are you?
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:06 p.m.
with respect and condolences to previous victims, so I should say nothing hoping to spare the feelings of previous victims rather than hoping to spare more women physical AND mental harm? Does that really make sense to you?
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:41 p.m.
You make cogent point. So you are saying that rape survivors can't advocate that women educate and learn how to protect themsleves, bcause that in-turn will cause the survivor to feel guilty about not doing the same themselves? Patronizing or encouraging words?
quetzalcoatl
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:07 p.m.
They are going to catch this guy, but when they do will there room at the inn (Washtenaw County Jail)? I mean, what with all the folks eternally trespassed from campus, the aggressive panhandlers, the medical marijuana addicts, the parrot abusers, the guys brawling outside downtown nightclubs at closing time, the drunk drivers who flunked probation .... there may not be a bunk for what the British in Northern Ireland once called "ordinary, decent criminals" to distinguish them from the IRA.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:16 p.m.
I would say bring him out my way to Jackson, but we have enough of them already at the corner of Cooper and Parnall. It was bad enough we had Kwame out here for a short period of time.
Rebecca
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:06 p.m.
I am sick of sitting back and watching yet another attack! Please join me tomorrow night to pass out flyers and take back our streets. Here is the event <a href="https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=153759678031979" rel='nofollow'>https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=153759678031979</a> @mehkitty for twitter updates. This attacker needs to be caught!
Kerry Fingerle
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:05 p.m.
@Ricebrnr, While I agree that it is better to be in public and have a higher chance of being found, it is also important to remember the size of the attacker in comparison to the size of the victim/survivor. Especially with the case in this article, the man is described to be almost six feet tall. Be mindful of the benefits of attacking the attacker, while keeping in mind the consequences that those actions could have. Safety, now and always, is important, but it is also imperative to talk about prevention. I believe our community should, in the future, put a focus on the prevention of these attacks (of course given the current climate, it is imperative to catch the attacker, stay safe, etc). Teach girls and women to be safe, but more importantly, teach people not to sexually assault others.
EyeHeartA2
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 8:48 p.m.
"teach people not to sexually assault others" Yes, because I'm sure he never heard that before.
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:37 p.m.
Kerry, An attacker will always choose someone that they feel they can overwhelm. It can be physical size it can be sheer ferocity. What difference does it make to the intended victim is they are brutally assaulted by either? ABSOLUTELY NONE. Whatever their size if you think your life and well being are in danger FIGHT! There is nothing left to lose and the rest of your life to gain even if that means recuperation in the short term.
Kaily D
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:17 p.m.
You sound like one of my friends from Safehouse. Certainly, it is a proactive stance against sexual assault, but it is more of a ways to heal the victim by saying that we can't blame them for the assault. And we can't. There are simply screwed up people out there, and I choose to be proactive by taking self-defense classes.
Kerry Fingerle
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:46 p.m.
I'm sorry, I didn't meant to imply that this definitely would've been prevented had this man/these men had education about sexual assault. But it should be said that as a general society, we put an emphasis on education about how to avoid sexual assault, as opposed to not sexual assaulting. I agree, however, these people have "issues." @Quetzalcoatl, the man in the most recent attack is said to be 5'10" to 6 feet tall.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:22 p.m.
I agree fatkitty...
Fatkitty
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:16 p.m.
Please. You can't "teach" an adult to not sexually assault others. This guy has, shall we say, "issues".
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:10 p.m.
Just like Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse- don't matter how big they are. Take out the knees or the groin and it will buckle anyone. Roadhouse......
quetzalcoatl
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:09 p.m.
In fact, this man has been variously described as being 5'6" and 6'5".
Cash
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:38 p.m.
WWJ radio reporters were headed to a AAPD press conference regarding this issue this AM. Any info?
stevek
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:36 p.m.
Doesn't make sense-- A girl goes missing last week (by her own choice) and there is a $2000 reward. A guy attacks/fondles/rapes 6 women and there is a $1000 reward.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:50 p.m.
Not enough earmarks?
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:21 p.m.
Please please stop advocating use of illegal items in self defense. Tasers are not legal for civilians yet. Tasers built into knuckle devices may be contrued as a brass knuckle also. Mi rated OC spray cannot exceed 10% concentration, but There are brands that are just as effective. Do not use Wasp Spray which may not be effective. OC spray can be had at Meijers and Walmart in the sporting/hunting section. Any hardware store will usually have it also. Not to mention MC sports in Briarwood and the Dunhams around town. Might I add easier than hand to hand is some sort of force multiplier like OC, a kubaton etc up to and including a personal firearm?
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:32 p.m.
Again, totally agree. It is what it is and we must live by it until it is changed. That being said see here for some legislation that will hopefully change such matters. <a href="http://mcrgo.org/mcrgo/d_legislative.asp" rel='nofollow'>http://mcrgo.org/mcrgo/d_legislative.asp</a> Please write and call your congress-critter and have them support such legislation.
Dan
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:42 p.m.
It is pretty ridiculous that you can get a permit to carry a handgun concealed, but not a taser, 10%+ OC spray, knife over 3", or any other "weapon" (as defined by law) concealed.
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:32 p.m.
Perfectly reasonable question and I agree, when fighting for your life it shouldn't matter what you choose to defend yourself with. In the meantime and in the real world, self defense starts long before and long after an attack - hence the be smart part of be smart and be safe.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:49 p.m.
I guess here's my idiot question of the week. If you are allowed to use lethal force to protect yourself, why are tasers and 10%+ OC spray not allowed for civilian use nd firearms, etc. are? I'm sure I look stupid for asking, but it's probably going through the minds of a few other people as well.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:45 p.m.
I wasn't advocating tasers, hence my statement that they are illegal in MI. Here's my disclaimer *please follow and obey all state, local/municipal laws when researching your personal self-defense methods for disabling an attacker* That ok?
Sierra
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:56 p.m.
<a href="http://store.kimberamerica.com/Products/tabid/67/CategoryID/21/ProductID/1084/Default.aspx" rel='nofollow'>http://store.kimberamerica.com/Products/tabid/67/CategoryID/21/ProductID/1084/Default.aspx</a> My husband got this for me, as I run at night and don't want a heavy gun throwing off my stride. :-D This shizz is effective at three feet to fifteen feet. Added awesomeness of not being able to spray yourself accidentally. Man...I REALLY want to take this d-bag down...I'll be the decoy. And he'll be sorry.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:09 p.m.
Always nice to have relatives in Texas-they send my wife pepper spray that has a higher concentration % taht is allowed down there... :)
debling
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:43 p.m.
This is very sad. Nobody should be a victim of this type of crime. I am sorry for the women that have endured these attacks. Until this guys (or guys) is caught, I hope all women use the buddy system late at night or stay in the open areas. Also, let me pitch that this is a great reason for all ladies to take some kind of self defense course. Tae Kwon Do, Jiu Jitsu, Krav Maga would be useful. You never know when you need to protect yourself. Guns, pepper spray, etc are nice, but you may not have a chance to reach for it if someone grabs you from behind.
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:47 p.m.
Even if this guy is caught, please remain alert. The next one may be waiting.
jellyfish
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:43 p.m.
Taking a self defense class is a great idea. It builds confidence in many situations (dangerous and otherwise). I imagine that price at a private studio is a barrier though...especially for students. When I was a student at Wayne State, RAD (Rape Aggression Defense) courses were offered in weekend workshop form. Though I find the wording of the training irritating: "In an effort to teach women how to take steps to prevent an assault or rape through risk reduction and avoidance..." the actual physical training outline seems very comprehensive. Does anyone know if the U of M, the Sexual Assault Prevention Center or even the Rec center offer a basic free or low cost class? Maybe now is the time.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:48 p.m.
Don't forget Muai Tai....lol. Maybe they can't watch the Gracie Jiu Jitsu instructional dvd's. Those are great.
spm
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:41 p.m.
For what it's worth, when I'm out at night I always keep my keys in the palm of my hand with the keys sticking out between each finger to use as a weapon if needed. I recall being told this years ago in a defense class. With those keys as a weapon go for the eyes. Also use the palm of your other hand and slam it as hard as you can in an upward motion at the guy's nose. All the while keep screaming like there is no tomorrow.
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:45 p.m.
Hold your largest key between your forefinger and middle finger so it sticks out with your keyholder tight in your palm. Otherwise, you might drop it if grabbed.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:48 p.m.
Saw that on a show that looked like 'sports science' on FSD, but it was all regarding self defense. That method with yout keys can easily fractured the orbital bone and transfers all that energy into the point of the key. Very good one as well.
VamosAzul
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:35 p.m.
Where can you buy pepper spray around campus?
Dan
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:13 p.m.
Here at Kim's Sports Martial Arts Supplies. 406 E. Liberty St.
porchbear
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:36 p.m.
I bought mine at Meijer, back in the camping/hardware/automotive area. It comes in a bright pink canister.
spm
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:44 p.m.
I saw some at Bivouac on State st. a couple years ago. Don't know if they still sell it.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:43 p.m.
I would say Harry's army navy surplus, but that might give you an indication as to how long it's been since I've lived there (if it's still there by borders). Dunham's should sell it. Or if you feel like getting priced gouged, drive 30min south on 23 to Cabela's in Dundee. Meijer should carry it as well.
John A2
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:27 p.m.
All the women in A2 need to get pepper spray!!!!!!!!! Keep it in your hand ready to use, and by all means check your back and see if you're being followed. If there is a man with a hoody following you don't walk into a dark alley. Run to a well lit porch and knock on the door. Who cares if they are bothered by your pounding on the door. Best thing to do is stay in public view. If you spray the suspect he will not be able to breath or see. Keep spraying him until the cops arrive. Maybe he will stumble in front of a bus or something, lol.
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:42 p.m.
If someone grabs you from behind (this guy's apparent M.O.), you will not have a chance to use your spray. It could also be used against you. It may also give a false sense of security and make one less alert.
Dan
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:15 p.m.
We sell Defense Spray that has pepper spray, tear gas, and UV dye mixed together. If you're walking alone, keep it in your hand. Kim's Sports Martial Arts Supplies. 406 E. Liberty St.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:45 p.m.
@johnA2-love the "stumble into the street in front of a bus".
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:41 p.m.
I hear bear pepper spray will clear an auditorium out as well. They even give you hip holsters for that.
Charlie Brown's Ghost
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:33 p.m.
I've heard the Bat Shark Repellant works quite well.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:31 p.m.
Cabela's sell tasers that you wear like gloves/ _____knuckles. Pretty sweet looking, except they are illegal here... With enough money, you could become batman...err, batgirl.
foo
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:27 p.m.
perhaps the DDA should start giving some money back to the city to pay for extra poliice. I would think feeling safe downtown would be a better investment for business than a $50 million parking garage
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:11 p.m.
Bravo Gramma, I constantly try to make this same point. FEELING safe is not nearly as important as BEING safe. lot's of people feel safe on the water... until they're drowning. Plan ahead so you don't drown when the crisis hits you.
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:39 p.m.
Feeling safe doesn't mean you are safe. Always remain alert.
quetzalcoatl
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:11 p.m.
No contractors are enriched by extra police, and the opportunity for graft is miserable
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:23 p.m.
Throat strikes are greatly effective. Kicking with considerable force directly to the knee I believe can tear/rip either the ACL or MCL. That's an effective spot as well. Know that you might take a few shots to land 1 or 2 back, but it'll be worth it. Just don't stop. Jawline can be a good spot too midway towards the ear. Be aware of your surroundings and don't be afriad to keep your head on a swivel. Know that someone means you great harm he comes after you and you must break his will to fight.
redwingshero
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:40 p.m.
If this guy isn't caught in two weeks, I suggest women in the area watch UFC 133 on Aug 6. You might pick up a few things. FYI-the elbow is the hardest point on the body, use it.
Fatkitty
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:31 p.m.
Good points. Swift kicks - be careful not to lose your balance, or worse yet, get knocked down while you have one leg up getting ready to kick. Yell and scream, and given the opportunity, RUN!
trespass
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:13 p.m.
Tell women, if attacked, scratch him. That will give you his DNA under your fingernails. BTW, is there DNA from either of the rapes?
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:26 p.m.
I should hope to God anyone attacked should do more than just scratch. Remember you are fighting for your life! Fight like you mean to keep it.
Charlie Brown's Ghost
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:04 p.m.
Here's hoping his next attempt is against a woman who's packing heat. Good Night and Good Grief
Smart Logic
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 5:16 p.m.
I agree. It's unfortunate that it couldn't be on campus, unless the woman is breaking university rules and carrying.
arborlib
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 12:48 p.m.
This is starting to get really scary. Hopefully the perpetrator(s) is caught soon. Stay safe out there, everyone. Use the buddy system!!!!!!
BigMike
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 12:20 p.m.
Think summer sublet.
Fatkitty
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 3:34 p.m.
Gut-feeling tells me this guy isn't sitting in a parked car waiting for his next victim. He's taking advantage of being on foot, or bicycle and blending in with all the other foot-pedestrians to are out late at night. So far, he's targeted the State Street corridor. Maybe he lives out of town, drives to A2, parks his car, walks a mile or 2 and waits. I doubt it.
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:02 p.m.
He may not even live in A2. Continuously survey your scene and listen for any noises. Stay alert and as Ricebrnr says fight back. There was a woman in another state who grabbed the most vulnerable parts and twisted hard.
Fatkitty
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 12:06 p.m.
I drew a line between Community H.S. (the most northern attack site) and Greenwood (the most southern attack site). The distance is approximately 2.5 miles. The halfway mark is smack-dab on central campus: Thompson/Jefferson/State. My guess is this guy is a student or wannabe student, lives somewhere close to Thompson/Jefferson, travels on foot or perhaps bicycle. For what it's worth...........
genericreg
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 11:58 a.m.
please put all attacks one map
Kyle Mulka
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 8:08 p.m.
Fixed link: <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=205141184457449441666.0004a912427530e6876ee" rel='nofollow'>http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=205141184457449441666.0004a912427530e6876ee</a>
Kyle Mulka
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 8:07 p.m.
Here's a map: <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=" rel='nofollow'>http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=</a> 205141184457449441666.0004a912427530e6876ee
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 12:56 p.m.
The guy(s) could easily change location. Stay alert wherever you are.
Wolf's Bane
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 11:48 a.m.
A serial rapist? My goodness. I agree with Ricebrnr, draw attention to yourself and scream: "Fire". People are more likely to come running for a fire than a rape in progress. For goodness sakes, please watch yourself out there after midnight and travel with a buddy.
M.
Thu, Jul 28, 2011 : 12:27 a.m.
Not so sure that people run TOWARDS fire
EatKeyLimePie
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 11:24 a.m.
Crime can happen anywhere, anytime. Even in Ann Arbor. Stay alert, always observe your surroundings and keep your guard up.
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 11:07 a.m.
Oh and I forgot to mention SCREAM! Make a spetacle of yourself, draw attention. Even if you are wrong would you rather get hurt than just a little embarassed! PS ears rip off surprisingly easily...just sayin
grimmk
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 6:42 p.m.
You know what the old saying is, Scream FIRE! NOT Help!
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 2:25 p.m.
I agree about being shocked but mitigating that response starts with awareness and planning ahead. No plan survives first contact BUT any plan is better than no plan. Cliche but true, if you don't plan to succeed, plan on failing.
MjC
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:28 p.m.
Good advice; the best being never ever allow the creep to take you to a second location. However, despite all this good advice most people go into instant shock mode when attacked (is this really happening?) before they can promptly react. It would be wise if the UM could provide mini training courses in self-defense for all students.
cinnabar7071
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 12:43 p.m.
"PS ears rip off surprisingly easily" That would make him easier to find. LOL
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 10:54 a.m.
So which is more frightening? That it might be the sane guy or that it might be multiple guys? Doesn't matter your response should be the same. Immediate and vehement resistance. Claw at or gouge the eyes. Chop at the throat. Grap at the windpipe. Kick the shin bones,knees,groin. Cup hands and slap at both ears. Remember the attacker means to do you HARM. YOU must be willing to accept that thought and return it with more. Better to be hurt wher you stand,in public where you will likely be found that be taken someplace private and have worse done at his leisure. Be smart and safe out there.
Ricebrnr
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 9:59 p.m.
I'd like a cite to that study.. not that I'd be surprised in this litigious society
Mick52
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 6:13 p.m.
I have a study written by the FBI that cautions on giving advice to victims of attacks because often such advice does not work and you can be held liable for such. Just something to think about when advising people how to react.
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 4:25 p.m.
Kerry, remember that these young women may be fighting for their lives. The more secluded the area, the greater the risk. If you don't fight back, he's definitely going to harm you. The size of the perp is irrelevent, FIGHT.
JS
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:46 p.m.
Completely in agreement with you here Ricebrnr! Also, a pen or pencil makes a pretty potent defensive weapon. For tips on implementing this safety device, watch the movie Casino and keep your eyes on Joe Pesci.
Gramma
Wed, Jul 27, 2011 : 1:04 p.m.
Remember that such predators often up the ante and do more and more serious harm to their victims. You may be fighting for your life.