Camp Take Notice residents apply for subsidies as supporters prepare to protest eviction
Supporters of Camp Take Notice during a rally for the homeless encampment.
Melanie Maxwell | AnnArbor.com
People who live in the camp - located in an state highway median off of Wagner Road - are signing up for housing subsidies being offered by the state en masse, but also working with church groups to keep the camp in its existing location.
Residents and supporters of the camp received training in nonviolent protest from the Michigan Peace Team on Sunday incase their pleas to the state officials to rescind its eviction notice falls on deaf ears.
“We are hoping to work out a compromise,” said Brian Durrance, vice president for Michigan Itinerant Shelter System-Interdependent Out of Necessity (MISSION) a non-profit organization that helps support the tent city.
Durrance said he hopes a compromise is met, but if not, that campers and supporters are preparing to stay at the camp together in defiance of the state's request to leave.
"There are many church supporters who plan to embed themselves,” Durrance said.
In an open letter to Gov. Rick Snyder and state Rep. Mark Ouimet, multiple leaders in the county’s faith-based community pleaded for the tent city to either be kept open where it is or for the state to help find a permanent site for the camp.
Church leaders from around the county signed the letter and are paying to have it published in AnnArbor.com.
“We need a community conversation and real political will to find a permanent site for CTN and not simply sweep the problem out of sight,” the letter states. “Until such step can be taken, this eviction is inhumane and unjust.”
Camp Take Notice is located in Scio Township, between Jackson and Dexter-Ann Arbor roads off of Wagner Road near M-14.
Michigan Department of Transportation issued a notice to camp residents on May 29 informing them that they would be arrested for trespassing if not gone by June 22.
The notice was issued in conjunction with the Michigan State Housing Development Authority announcing a program in which housing subsidies for up to a year’s rent would be issued to camp residents.
The program will provide rent for up to 40 households. A multi-person dwelling is sill considered one household. There are currently 66 residents at the camp according to Durrance.
Workers at the Washtenaw County Homeless Project Outreach Team are currently on a push to get every resident’s paperwork filled out for subsidies.
John Loring, director of Community Support and Treatment at PORT said around 20 people have filled out the necessary paperwork and he hopes to have everyone signed up over the next two days. Loring doesn’t see the program realistically being able to place people in 40 households by the deadline. None have been placed yet.
“We’re making a push to get that paper work filled out and we’ll keep doing it until we’re done,” Loring added.
“We’re going to try, but the date isn’t good for a move in. We’re finding people don’t have places to rent at that time,” Loring said. “Hopefully we can get the deadline extended.”
According to MDOT, there is no current plan to extend the deadline.
Camp death update
A Camp Take Notice resident was found dead on Sunday. As of Monday afternoon, the Washtenaw County Sheriff's Department had yet to determine a cause of death and were not prepared to release the man's name.
MISSION is planning a memorial service for the man according a press release sent to supporters on Monday.
"With the impending June 22 eviction of Camp Take Notice by MDOT, this has been and continues to be an exceptionally difficult and trying time for the Camp Take Notice community," the release stated. "We request your prayers and support for both (the man's) beloved family and for the Camp Take Notice community, which mourns his passing."
Contact Pete Cunningham at petercunningham@annarbor.com or by phone at 734-623-2561. Follow him on Twitter @petcunningham.
Comments
A2cpl
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 4:12 p.m.
Can someone post a list of the churches and the adresses supporting CTN? I would like to share it with the residents of CTN. If they are willing to support this group of people they certainly won't mind them camping out on the properties.
Ron
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:31 p.m.
I am glad the state is helping with the subsidies for the campers BUT I also have a problem with it. The state has a waiting list of people to get into affordable housing and have done nothing with it since November of 2010. How fair is it for the campers to be able to jump ahead of the people that are on the waiting list? Also some of the comments on here mention the shelters around the county. The shelters have rules that the homeless have to follow to be able to make the transition from being homeless to having a place to lay their head. You have to stay sober and not do drugs. Make an effort to find employment and also have to show that you are trying to better yourself. I used to be homeless and the staff at the Delonis Center helped me but only because I helped myself. There are plenty of programs in the county but some of the residents of CTN refuse to follow rules or stay sober. CTN will tell you that they have rules of no drinking or doing drugs but I know for a fact they drink down there. I had a friend staying there and he was a drinker and so were a couple of other CTN residents. I don't think a day goes by that at least one resident down there is drinking. And if you make another resident mad about something stupid, you get voted out and they take your stuff down and move it out of the area and you end up losing alot of your stuff because the CTN residents sift through your stuff and keep what they want. If the state or these Churches want to help, I think they should start with that wait list that people had to sign up for and have been waiting. Yeah I know some people have problems down there but that is no excuse for them not getting the help of counseling before they go into housing. If they want the help, they should get off the drugs and booze and get their life together first and show that they are able to do it like the rest of the homeless do that ARE in shelters.
4 Fingers
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:51 p.m.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... If all these local churches support CTN, then open up a shelter in your church. I'm pretty sure I remember a church downtown by Commie High that did the same. so.....Whose up first?
clownfish
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:52 p.m.
This is a short list of mentions of the poor in The Good book. There are a LOT of mentions. I compare this to mentions of homosexuality and contraception and have to wonder why so many people focus so much attention on issues barely mentioned but come out AGAINST the people God has evidently called out for needed attention? All of those voting down my previous post, maybe you can help me understand this disconnect ? Deuteronomy 10:18 He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the alien, giving him food and clothing. Deuteronomy 14:28-29 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year's produce and store it in your towns so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. Deuteronomy 15:7-8 If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother. Rather be openhanded and freely lend him whatever he needs. Deuteronomy 15:11 There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land. 1 Samuel 2:7-8 The LORD sends poverty and wealth; he humbles and he exalts. He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor. Psalm 12:5 "Because of the oppression of the weak and the groaning of the needy, I will now arise," says the LORD. "Then I will protect them from those who malign them." Psalm 82:3-4 Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
clownfish
Wed, Jun 13, 2012 : 1:06 p.m.
Sorry, Here I have been told how we are a "Christian country" Guess not.
Macabre Sunset
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 4:12 p.m.
It's just a book. Should I quote Ayn Rand in response? Because she has turned to be more relevant to today's economic and social landscape than the anonymous writers of the Bible.
Enso
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:37 p.m.
I love that they are getting subsidies!!! How do you make a Republican angry? Help people! lol
Unusual Suspect
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 3:45 p.m.
Aye, I do. And there is help out there for your latter example, and the way to help people who need it is to point them to it and get them there. If they choose not to avail themselves of it, then that's their fault. However, illegal camping is not a suitable solution for any of these people.
Enso
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 3:34 p.m.
So I imagine that you support helping the people at CTN, given that you are a Christian and a Conservative? Because what if people's physical and mental disabilities preclude them from 'helping themselves?'
Unusual Suspect
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:33 p.m.
Helping people learn to help themselves are Christian and conservative traits. Teaching them to do nothing more than look for handouts is a liberal trait.
Jeffersonian Liberal
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:35 p.m.
I know that you progressive lib's would never put your money where your mouths are. It's far easier to stand their with your stupid signs while the government takes the money from the producers under the threat of imprisonment and wastes it on the moochers.
Enso
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:41 p.m.
Stupid signs! I think those were the Christians the other day... And come on Liberal, you don't truly believe in the myth of the self-made man do you?
clownfish
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:40 p.m.
Maybe we could do something along the lines of Thom Jefferson, make these people slaves?
grye
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:24 p.m.
Interesting that this is State owned land that the State is doing nothing with it. If there is no intent to develop this parcel of land, then what is the problem? Oh yes. Homeless indigent people, some with drug problems, most with mental illness problems, many with minimal or no work to maintain a living. Maybe these are the problems that need to be addressed through help from other State organizations instead of the DOT forcing an eviction. That would be the right thing to do instead of ignoring the least of us.
Unusual Suspect
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:33 p.m.
It's a strip of land between the eastbound and westbound lanes of an expressway. Of course there are no plans to develop it. But there's also no legal way to be living on it.
clownfish
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:11 p.m.
I note that when it comes to gay folks "we" are a "Christian Nation", coming up with new laws to limit what those pesky gay people can do with their lives. But, when it comes to the poorest and those with the most need, all of a sudden many of the same people that like to callus this "Christian Nation" lose that alleged faith. English Standard Version (©2001) And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.' Maybe this part has been removed from the Randian Version of the NT?
clownfish
Wed, Jun 13, 2012 : 1:17 p.m.
MI Man, ask at your study : How many references to homosexuality and contraception vs mentions of caring for the poor?
Michigan Man
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:16 p.m.
Clown - Am I correct in assuming that you are now an old and new testament Bible scholar? I do attend a weekly Bible study at my church which is wonderful. Perhaps I should think about switching and attending the Bible studies which you lead?
Michigan Man
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 11:30 a.m.
Please remember that the Mayor and Ann Arbor city council are just too busy solving problems relative to Syria, Libia, Washington, DC etc. I am sorry to report that they just do not have the time to find real solutions and/or positive results for the CTN campers. The quality of life in and around Ann Arbor is just not the focus nor important to the Ann Arbor elite, lefty leadership crowd.
Unusual Suspect
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:30 p.m.
"solving problems relative to Syria, Libia, Washington, DC" And public art.
Halter
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 10:32 a.m.
There was an article in USA Today yesterday that discusses this: currently squatters camps in 13 states are illegal, and there are many cities where food handouts (except at organized food distribution sites) is also illegal. Since we go through this same thing every couple of years, perhaps our Councils need to get their own act together and enact similar laws to end this on e and for all.
clownfish
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:35 p.m.
It's what a Christian Nation should do!!
Unusual Suspect
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 10:16 a.m.
Hopefully MDOT will show some backbone on this and not cave to Ann Arbor arrogance. There may be homesteading laws that come in to play if they allow them to stay too long. I think it's good to do this every couple years. It reminds the squatters this isn't a permanent situation and that they need to go get a job so they can then find a permanent situation.
a2citizen
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 3:23 a.m.
"... Loring doesn't see the program realistically being able to place people in 40 households by the deadline..." Check with the people in the photo...maybe they will open up their homes to help out.
FormerMichRes
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:41 a.m.
Seems most of the comments are against CTN. Seems the protesters are the usual crowd in AA -- limo liberal elites (faculty, etc.) and students who are willing to fight for the rights of CTN to be in someone's backyard...but not theirs. Geez, I wonder what would happen if CTN relocated to ... let's say the ARB? The screaming and hollering would be deafening. You get my drift, I think.
Rudedog
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:18 a.m.
There is a nice piece of land near Barton Hills for them to move to. The "campers" can bathe in the river.
KINGofSKA
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:17 a.m.
""We need a community conversation and real political will to find a permanent site for CTN and not simply sweep the problem out of sight," the letter states. "Until such step can be taken, this eviction is inhumane and unjust."" They couldn't really have expected that this day in age, they could stay there forever? I have a friend that pays her rent on time, as well as her other obligations, she got evicted from her house with no warning, you don't see that on AnnArbor.com.
javajolt1
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:41 a.m.
I'm going to "take notice" of the long suffering, hard working, tax paying involuntary neighbors of this illegal encampment. Just because you begin occupying State owned land with no potable water, electricity or sanitary services doesn't mean you have the perpetual right to be there. I feel for the people who live nearby and have had to endure this circus. Having empathy for the homeless is one thing. Having empathy for the people that live in the neighboring areas, pay taxes and are concerned about their security is valid, too. The churches that are most vocal about CTN should step up and provide their own tax-free land is they want to fight this. Time to wrap this up.
Linda
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 8:18 a.m.
Regarding the use of church property, see my comment to "inarea." Also several local churches house the overflow from the Delonis Shelter in the winter months.
Here
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:23 a.m.
Why don't the churches let the campers sleep on their property?
Linda
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 8:15 a.m.
First Baptist church did exactly that, though perhaps some different campers, since it happened a few years ago.
Rudedog
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:23 a.m.
I agree @inarea!
Halter
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:07 a.m.
A) we have an overfunded homeless shelter...use it B) only in Ann Arbor do squatters have equal "rights" to taxpayers, home owners, and taxpayers C) perhaps these church and legal groups can offer their common rooms as free housing for these freeloaders
clownfish
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:21 p.m.
Actually, in theory in America each person has equal rights. Special rights for land holding White Males was supposed to be done away with long ago.
bhall
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:57 a.m.
Please allow me to interrupt this rant to point out... This camp is NOT in Ann Arbor. Carry on!
Stephen Landes
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1 a.m.
From everything I have read the problem is not being swept under the rug! "Residents" of Camp Take Notice have been noticed to the point that they are being supported with publicly funded vouchers for housing. They will be given a year of support during which time they need to be helped to re-learn living in housing, preparing for working, and getting the training they may need to be able to work. If substance abuse is an issue they can have community and, no doubt religious group, support to "get clean". In my opinion the issue is front and center -- being left in a squatters' camp on the edge of town is called sweeping it under the rug.
genetracy
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:48 a.m.
Our tax dollars at work. Housing subsidies and other freebies for a group of deadbeats. And that is called social progress.
u812
Thu, Jun 14, 2012 : 1:36 a.m.
republican war on the economy to gain more profits equals more poor and lower middle class.
Macabre Sunset
Wed, Jun 13, 2012 : 3:30 p.m.
Your economic model is too simplistic, and ignores the fact that people contribute to the economy. If the home-owning taxpayer stops producing and consuming, the economy as a whole loses. If the subsidy-seeking unemployed person stops producing and consuming, the economy gains. Ignoring the net contribution of individuals does not make for an effective economic model. The reason communism fails in practice is because people keep taking more and more when they're no longer invested in the economy. Fewer people decide to contribute.
bhall
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 6:42 p.m.
Yes. That's correct. A transfer is a transfer. You ascribe a value statement to one transfer over another. Economically, they are the same.
Macabre Sunset
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 5:16 p.m.
Let's see... If I have a "voucher" for free housing, I have accepted money from the people and have contributed exactly nothing. If I have a home and pay a mortgage, but my taxes are reduced by the amount of those mortgage payments that went solely into a fee for the banks, then I have accepted nothing from the people, but have contributed thousands in income tax. In your version of economics, those are equivalent situations. And I'm the one who doesn't understand?
bhall
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 4:34 p.m.
@macabre, Sorry you don't grasp economics.
genetracy
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 4:23 p.m.
Envious of deadbeats? Yeah right. I have an issue with people who scam people and the system while bleeding hearts like you call it compassion.
Macabre Sunset
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 4:11 p.m.
It's hard to grasp the logic of comparing a tax deduction, which reduces the amount of tax you pay, to government spending. Rather like comparing oranges to apple cores.
bhall
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 3:32 p.m.
Since you seem so envious of the "deadbeats" -- your word -- why don't you join them? You're free to do so!
genetracy
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:07 p.m.
Yeah bhall, as someone who works 50 to 60 hours a week with a son in college, I wake up everyday laughing because of I milk the system with the tax dedections I receive for owning a house. I am a regular George Soros. Yeah right. Maybe deadbeat was a poor description. How about we just call the residents freeloaders or leeches? How much do you want to bet they residents will milk the incentives to move for all they are worth and then go back to being homeless?
bhall
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:02 a.m.
Mr Tracy, you can substitute many other words for "deadbeats" and your statement will still be correct. Consider the owners of single-family homes. Given the expressed income tax deductions for home ownership in the tax code that has existed for many years and has been supported by both parties since the 1930s, we can say: "Our tax dollars at work. Housing subsidies and other freebies for a group of suburbanites. And that is called social progress." If we're going to take aim at tax subsidies, let's not focus only on the most downtrodden in our society. The tax subisidies for them pales in comparison to the transfers to the better off.
Macabre Sunset
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:47 a.m.
Don't we already spend a lot of money on free shelters for the homeless? I guess that's not enough. Remember, kids, ask not what you can do for your country, ask what taxpayers can buy for you.
cibachrome
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:19 a.m.
Isn't there a secret research center that could be placed there? I think they call it a 'skunk-works'... Do they ? You bet !
martini man
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:52 p.m.
A landlord tenant mess ???? More taxpayer dollars wasted, and every left wing lawyer in the area will be lining up to file briefs and restraining orders. Looks likee it 's gonna get worse before it ever gets better.
shepard145
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:47 p.m.
This entire "camp" is a gimmick. Any of these "campers" can pick any of a dozen cities in Michigan where other welfare recipients enjoy some of the cushiest poverty in the world. Like tens of thousands of others in Michigan, they can rent a house, get cable, a cell phone, computer, AC, one or more televisions and buy a car - all with the money they collect from working Michigan residents. They can spend every day at their leisure, emailing their opinions to sites like this and hoping the "workers" put in a few extra hours of overtime every week so the State can afford to give them more benefits next year! There is a reason why "Camp Somebody Lookit Me" is special: Because it is unnecessary on every level and held together with pure Ann Arbor attitude. I hope the fact that our Governor has spent more then 10 seconds of his time thinking about this farce is an indication that Michigan is improving to the point where he can be bothered with trivialities.
David Cahill
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:43 p.m.
The Camp Take Notice folks have been at this site so long - with the tacit approval of MDOT - that they may not legally be arrested for trespassing. Instead, they have become "tenants at suffrance" and must be evicted (if at all) through a landlord-tenant proceeding in District Court.
Michigan Man
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:15 a.m.
Dave - where to you live in Ann Arbor? Can we direct the campers to your backyard on or about 6/22/2012?
javajolt1
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:33 a.m.
Simply not correct.
Jack Campbell
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:39 p.m.
As a home-owner in the area I am quite sick of dealing with this issue. 60+ people camping along the interstate without facilities is just not a good idea. I wonder how many of many of the camps supporters would like to have the homeless sleeping in their backyard? They need to go, now.
Jack Campbell
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:25 a.m.
Thank you Martini Man. I don't want to seem hard-hearted. Im not against helping those who have legitimate disabilities, or may have fallen on hard times temporarily. But I will not abide those who willingly choose to take handouts instead of working. I worked damn hard to get were I am today. There is no reason I should support someone who doesn't want to lift a finger to support themselves.
martini man
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 11:24 p.m.
Jack ..the reply that was deleted was mine ..it was supporting you .
xmo
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:22 p.m.
What I am surprised at is how much Religious support CTN is getting. "There are many church supporters who plan to embed themselves" These have to be the "Religious Right WIngers" that all of the lib's mock all of the time! I just didn't think that there were any near Ann Arbor!
Unusual Suspect
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 2:28 p.m.
Darn you, Daytona. They were so comfortable in their hateful stereotypes and you had to go shine the light of reality and fact on them.
daytona084
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:21 p.m.
One of the most active churches in helping the CTN people is Knox Presbyterian. Most would classify them as quite conservative.
Enso
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:35 p.m.
These are NOT the right wingers that are active in CTN. The right wingers are busy protesting the end of Christianity and trying to tell people how they should live their lives. The religious groups that are actually trying to HELP their fellow man are the one's truly following the example set forth by Christ.
clownfish
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:18 p.m.
No, you can tell they are not "Religious Right WIngers" because they are trying to help the poor, not kick them into the streets or tell them how/when and with whom to have sex.
tim
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:51 a.m.
These might be leftwing churches, I kind of doubt they are rightwing, but they might be since they run the majority of soup kitchens in this country.
Mike K
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 11:44 p.m.
xmo - my sentiments exactly. What the liberals fail to realize is that one needn't government to cure all ills. This is coming from an agnostic.
martini man
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:34 p.m.
Too many liberals talk big ..but act small.
martini man
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:19 p.m.
My original comment was censored because I might have hurt someone's feelings..so ..I'll try again with a watered down version. Maybe ..just maybe one of these church groups that plan to be embedded in the populace of the camp in order to defy eviction, ... could donate one of their church camp sites for a place to relocate Camp Take Notice. Using parishioner's money rather than taxpayer's money. Just a thought .
Davidian
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:18 p.m.
"We need a community conversation and real political will to find a permanent site for CTN and not simply sweep the problem out of sight," the letter states. "Until such step can be taken, this eviction is inhumane and unjust." Unjust? Actually, it's the law. I'm sure some of the people at CTN are just trying to get by and this is temporary, but many of them made a choice to drop out of society and they expect a handout. You can't really expect to have much control over your destiny or sympathy once you've done that. Help out those that have severe mental or physical health issues. The rest? Exercise an ounce of restraint, accept responsibilities as a human being living in society, and contribute. They are not special.
golfer
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:23 p.m.
do not take this the wrong way but some insurances do not cover rx's for mental health. i have been told by several people. they had to pay out of their own pocket. no coverage. this is people with blue cross and blue shield with medicare. i am not saying do not help but it is a double edge sword.
clownfish
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 12:16 p.m.
I assume that you have interviewed each person in this camp and know the mental and physical condition of each? Otherwise how could you know why they are their?
pbehjatnia
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 11:44 a.m.
A permanent site? No. Why? There isn't any reason for a permanent site. We have services and supports in place. There also isn't any reason for the state to step in with extra dollars for these squatters that are not available to the average person in need.
average joe
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1 a.m.
And, if the people protesting feel that strongly about getting shelter & other necessities for these folks, then maybe they should open up their homes for them & provide for them themselves. Nothing like walkin' the walk....
pbehjatnia
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:10 p.m.
Washtenaw County Sheriff spokesman Jackson was quoted in another paper saying that the death was a d.o. Annrbor.com could also simply pick up the phone and ask the sheriffs office. CTN is a squatters camp and apparently not the utopian paradise of clean outdoor living its supporters would like to believe in.
janeqdoe
Tue, Jun 12, 2012 : 1:18 a.m.
I tried posting the same information on the other article, and my comments were repeatedly removed. Go figure.
Pete Cunningham
Mon, Jun 11, 2012 : 10:41 p.m.
When asked today about the man's death, Derrick Jackson said "cause is still unknown." I can't speak for what was reported by another publication and don't care to speculate either way.