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Posted on Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 5:58 a.m.

Ann Arbor school board to vote Wednesday on 5-hour time limits

By Danielle Arndt

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The Ann Arbor school board will vote on a new committee structure and time limits Wednesday night.

Melanie Maxwell | AnnArbor.com file photo

The Ann Arbor Board of Education is expected to vote Wednesday on a number of policy changes that would restrict meetings to five hours and change its committee structure.

School board President Deb Mexicotte presented a number of policy changes before spring break last week that trustees hope will prevent the board from consistently meeting past 1 a.m.

The changes, which were proposed on March 27, include a five-hour time limit for regular board meetings, organizational meetings, study sessions and special meetings, as well as replacing the Committee of the Whole structure with a maximum of four standing committees. Regular meetings start at 7 p.m., so the five-hour time limit would mean most public meetings should conclude by midnight.

As the board has juggled increased financial challenges and lengthy reports from administration, trustees have met until 1 a.m. and 2 a.m. for several months, with the Feb. 27 meeting adjourning at about 3:15 a.m. This is a challenge for board members who have jobs outside of the school district and Superintendent Patricia Green and her executive cabinet members, who typically are required to stay through the end of the board meeting.

Standing committee meetings would not extend longer than three hours past their official start-time, according to the proposed policies. No more than three trustees would serve on a single standing committee for sub-quorum status, which would release the board from typical posting requirements and from keeping the meetings open to the public.

Trustee Susan Baskett had a number of concerns about the idea of sub-quorum meetings and not allowing the public to attend. The way the new policy is written is that giving notice is “not required.” Baskett said she hopes this does not mean the board won’t tell the public when its meetings will occur.

Mexicotte said the board will need to have a more in-depth conversation about posting.

“Transparency … is something we’ve been very committed to. However, we’ve also acknowledged there are times when it is important to have candid conversations, like in executive session where you need to be able to have some level of confidentiality,” she said, adding a sub-quorum structure gives the board the freedom to decide whether posting is a “must” or something that could be done on a case-by-case basis, depending on the agenda.

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Deb Mexicotte

Mexicotte said the board also could choose to invite in small groups of people who express interest or groups the board knows has an interest in a specific topic to a committee meeting.

The committees’ missions still are under consideration, but the topics could be some combination of the following: student achievement, budget and finance, governance, performance, planning and an executive committee.

The executive committee would be comprised of the board president, the superintendent and the chairmen of the other committees for the purpose of agenda planning; authoring or reviewing amendments to board policies or bylaws; or reviewing items referred to them by the individual standing committees.

Other changes to the board’s meeting procedures could include moving critical board action items and decisions to the beginning of the agenda to “ensure the smooth and timely operation of the district” and public participation and engagement, according to the proposed policy adjustments. The board does not get to action items on its agendas now until approximately the last two hours of its meetings.

Time limits also were tossed around for administrative presentations and board member discussions, with each school trustee being permitted a set number of minutes for comments and an increased effort to have questions answered in the days leading up to the meetings.

Across the table, school trustees largely were in favor of imposing time limits and most were on board with changing the committee structure. The primary goal of reverting back to standing committees from the Committee of the Whole is increasing efficiency.

The board went to a Committee of the Whole structure in the fall of 2011 because it had a number of new trustees who recently had been elected, Mexicotte said, adding trustees felt there was a benefit to having “everyone hear everything.”

“One of the things that we have in a (standing) committee structure is the ability to target the agenda a little better,” Mexicotte said. “… You also have to trust that a subset of the board has done the deep work and that you get a good executive summary. And you are able to get your questions answered beforehand and then that you’re able to move with some confidence.

“… I think now we realize that the (multiple) committee structure does streamline the work and does allow for a deeper dive in an avenue that is not the regular board meeting and in the (regular meeting) we should focus our agenda more closely around those questions and issues that need to be brought forward (for action),” Mexicotte said.

The board also has been working on improving its trust issues. At its March 27 meeting, the board passed an “affirmation of boardsmanship,” reaffirming what is expected of all trustees as leaders and recommitting to adhere to certain standards, principles and behaviors at the board table.

Danielle Arndt covers K-12 education for AnnArbor.com. Follow her on Twitter @DanielleArndt or email her at daniellearndt@annarbor.com.

Comments

jns131

Wed, Apr 10, 2013 : 12:12 a.m.

The bus drivers and monitors lost their jobs when it was voted near midnite to strike us down. It was in the morning we knew it was over. Talk about more then 5 hours.

Widow Wadman

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 6:58 p.m.

They Board of Ed passed an "affirmation of boardsmanship?" What a waste of time. Now some Board members want to limit the length of Board meetings? How self serving. Other school districts can conduct Board business without restrictions on the length of meetings. The Ann Arbor Board of Ed needs to focus on those business items that must be conducted (approving a school budget, improving the education of students located throughout the district, and maintaining educational programs within budget constraints) and stop wasting time on things that are not its business (interference with the criminal prosecution of athletes, for example). The residents of Ann Arbor should vote to limit the length of tenure of certain Board members who are ineffective and unfocused.

Badge

Sun, Jun 2, 2013 : 4:07 p.m.

You tell 'em, Widow!

DonBee

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 5:56 p.m.

All the better to further obscure what is going on with the budget, special education and other things. Latest rumor is that there are major changes coming to some of the programs, and that the planning is already complete by the administration, yet nothing has been said at the board level to the public. The budget forums are nothing but a cover for decisions not only made, but are in the process of being implemented.

towncryer

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 10:05 p.m.

Do you think one of those decisions is about RC/Pioneer and these public meetings are just lip service?

SEC Fan

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 4:25 p.m.

One should question whether a governing entity incapable of maintaining an agenda without some special rule is truly capable of governing at all...

Danielle Arndt

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 2:30 p.m.

One other tidbit that I didn't include in the story is if these changes are approved Wednesday, Deb Mexicotte doesn't see any reason not to implement the changes immediately. She thinks it could be reasonably done within a couple of weeks, rather than wait until July (the end of the fiscal year) or September (the start of the new school year). Most of the other school districts in the county do have sub-quorum standing committees that do not post their meeting times/dates. I'm curious what readers think about this. Do you have concerns about the meetings not being public like Susan Baskett or no?

justcary

Wed, Apr 10, 2013 : 9:43 p.m.

I serve on a board. It is not practical to post committee meeting times and dates as they often flex (which is possible and natural with a group of two or three!), and it is not prudent to make them public, only to report out afterward. This change in meeting structure and time limit are logical and thoughtful. I'm ashamed for my fellow readers who only read incompletely and are just loaded for bear and looking for something to disparage in every school-related article. I'm sorry school sucked for you way back then. Grow up now.

Basic Bob

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 3:27 p.m.

I'm not at all concerned. Most of the activity taken on behalf of the school board is already handled by paid administrators who operate in the privacy of their offices. There needs to be a public record of decisions, but the preparation and execution do not belong in the board meeting.

bulldog

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 2:27 p.m.

One way of using time more efficiently, would be to have administrators submit their "lengthy" reports ahead of time through a PowerPoint or some other presentation. The Board should review this presentation prior to the meeting. That way the majority of the meeting time isn't spent listening to the report. The meeting time can be used to answer questions the Board may have.

Schortie

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 1:37 p.m.

These folks are voting to limit their time commitments to the success of AAPS? Why not also vote to decrease class sizes and the amount of time teachers put in outside of school. Another example of AAPS administration wasting time, money and resources for their own self serving interests.

Basic Bob

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 2:11 p.m.

So you prefer to have all important votes after 1 am because it demonstrates commitment? I think it demonstrates incompetence.

Nicholas Urfe

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 12:59 p.m.

So is the issue that the meetings go too late, or is it that they want to exclude the public? They should not conflate the issues. If there is so much business, they must need to work harder, or smarter. This school system already has tremendous transparency issues. So this should come as no surprise.

Goober

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 12:55 p.m.

The Ann Arbor Board of Education. What a joke! Like the blind leading the blind. They don't have a clue. They can't even run an efficient meeting. Yet, this is what we elected to lead the education process and system for our kids. Go figure!

A Voice of Reason

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 12:43 p.m.

I actually feel sorry for Deb Mexicotte. I think board meetings should be no longer that 2 hours. Commentary by board members or the public should be limited to 2 minutes. Prepare your thoughts people and nothing you say is really that great anyway, and frankly, no one really cares about what you say other than yourself. Yes, this is why our kids cannot write effectively--because the leaders cannot communicate effectively (and efficiently). The Ann Arbor Public School staff needs to focus on educating the kids and should be dismissed at 9pm.

jns131

Wed, Apr 10, 2013 : 12:11 a.m.

You guys voted for her, over overwhelmingly. I did not.

mady

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 5:30 p.m.

Ms. Mexicotte gets absolutely NO sympathy from me! ever!!!

alarictoo

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 2:32 p.m.

Duct tape.

A Voice of Reason

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 1:02 p.m.

I agree with you too, just do not know how you control Glenn Nelson.

Goober

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 1 p.m.

No cutting of any slack for Deb. She is one of the problem board members.

A2comments

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 10:25 a.m.

The word "dysfunctional" comes to mind...

jns131

Wed, Apr 10, 2013 : 12:10 a.m.

I think I saw them at the April Fools festival. Weren't one of them a clown? O wait, that was the superintendent with the mayor.

mady

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 5:28 p.m.

yes, also the word "useless"!!

Chester Drawers

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 2:52 p.m.

Remember the good old days when trustees were professionals who could conduct business without the constant need to hear themselves talk, and talk, and..... ? Folks like Nick Roumel, Jim Cameron, Tony Barker, Ann Lyzinga (sp?), Chris Argersinger certainly had diverse perspectives, but could work together without their personal angst hanging out there for everyone to suffer through!

Goober

Tue, Apr 9, 2013 : 12:58 p.m.

Yes! Inept too! If any of them were professional, not self centered and had some level of respect for each other, they might be able to conduct a normal business meeting.