Liz Margolis

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 9:32 p.m.

Allen School was on lock down as was Tappan, Pattengill, Bryant and later, Pittsfield and the Pre School. Please remember the schools take the lock down direction from the Police.

jns131

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 7:01 p.m.

I really hope they catch these perps soon. It makes me very frantic to think of my child walking to school and one of em is living in the area. They had to have had help to get away so quickly. I do agree with one thing. Why was Allen school not on lock down? Is there something we do not know? Marine teachers perhaps? R Ah. Sorry. I really hope the police continue to patrol the schools to make sure the children get to school safely. I hope they head away from Ypsi. We might have crime, but at least our banks are safe.

Joe

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 12:10 p.m.

Meg: Being proud of where you live, whether it be your neighborhood or your city, is not classism. Ann Arbor is home to folks of all classes from students (who are IN classes, lol) to business owners to rock stars. If you're not proud of where you live, then take a look at making a change. AA: expecting more from something is not improper. If I paid 40% more for my house and 25% higher property taxes to live in Ann Arbor, you better believe I expect more. When I see Ann Arbor consistently ranked in the Top 5 of the U.S. for places to live, college towns, or places to retire...you'd better believe I expect more. If you spent $50k on a Lexus, would you not expect more from that car than a Ford Focus? And does that demean the driver of the Focus? Of course not. But it doesn't mean that someone shouldn't be proud of their Lexus. Of course, if you're the kind of person constantly jealous of the driver of that Lexus, then that's your issue. Anyway, I regret even getting into this foray. Everyone seems intent on missing my initial message. I'm starting a program to fight crime in my neighborhood. What are YOU doing to stand up and let criminals know that they are not going to turn this city away from the great and amazing place that it is? I simply want to challenge everyone to do their part in protecting our city.

jernalyzt

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 10:19 a.m.

Amalie, thanks for the update. Eyewitness says he was also tackled, but I can understand why they wouldn't want to get into that. It's tough being a cop trying to do the right in a highly litigious society. So moving on. Regarding what the teacher told me, my best guess is the Pattengill teacher saw police questioning someone on the playground and someone made a leap to thinking a suspect was apprehended. I do appreciate your efforts to look into this, as there is considerable confusion among the Bryant/Pattengill parent communities as to whether people were caught or not, something we were all trying to sort through while calming our kids after a stressful and somewhat upsetting day spent in lockdown. We were all very impressed with how the AAPS district handled this, by the way. Excellent work and organization by the faculties!

Liz Margolis

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 9:29 a.m.

Thanks Amalie for this update. That is what police confirmed with the district this morning. There was no arrests on the Pattengill property but there was many law enforcement officers on the lower part of the property.

Some Guy in 734

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 8:38 a.m.

(hesitated to say this in light of Stefanie's warning, but oh, what the heck.) I'm fairly sure the easiest way to rob a bank isn't to work in one--the easiest way is to own one.

Monica Milla

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 8:14 a.m.

People were wondering yesterday why some people in areas near the incident received phone calls about the event and others didn't. To receive emergency notices, you have to sign up with the city's CodeRED emergency alert system: http://www.a2gov.org/government/safetyservices/emergencymanagement/Pages/CodeRED.aspx

Gorc

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 7:40 a.m.

50c0++ you've been watching to many cop shows on TV. The photos from this robbery are not that bad. Bank of America has 163 office in the state of Michigan alone there is a cost benefit to the amount spent on video and other security equipment. This robbery was done in a matter of couple of minutes and this robber was a "line jumper"' he may have stolen the cash in two teller drawers. We may never find out the dollar amount...but the amount of cash from two teller drawers will be very low, not enough to justify spending an unlimited budget for "CSI" photos. Some of you reading this may say you can't put a price on preventing someone from getting hurt or killed. And I am grateful no one was hurt during this robber. But security equipment is only going to record and help solve a crime, not prevent it. Banks have had security measures for decades and it still does not stop morons from robbing them for typically $2,500. The best measure for everyone's safety in the branch is the training of the employees.

jernalyzt

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 7:25 a.m.

@annarbor, I don't know who you are and what you're motive is, but this is for sure--I will never, ever consider you reliable source. You don't know what happened. You weren't there. Amalie can't know what happened, she wasn't there. I am one person away from a very close,sane friend who was there, who called me shaking and upset. Why do I even get involved in these chat rooms with all the know-it-alls who seem to know everything from sitting at their computers all day, I have no idea.

5c0++ H4d13y

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 6:56 a.m.

I'm always amazed that banks and ATMs have the worst video equipment around.

annarbor

Fri, Oct 22, 2010 : 5:49 a.m.

@ Jernalytz- Time to find yourself some new sources... No one was tackled and no one was taken into custody off of Packard or any place else. And Amalie Nash has a far more reliable source than yours. Try listening to the A2PD traffic on the web, or on a iphone-like device. Far more reliable than second-hand info.

KathrynHahn

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 11:02 p.m.

@sk80sc "how do they know they were black"?? Probably because they had photos as well as a bank full of witnesses, I would imagine. Just because the clarity on the surveillance photo's is not all that clear doesn't mean the folks in the bank couldn't see them.

sk80sc

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 10:48 p.m.

How exactly do they know these two are black?

KathrynHahn

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 10:39 p.m.

@richard watkins "I am willng to bet before all this is over that we'll find out these are homeless medical marijuana addicts and they will be captured at the soup kitchen." Seriously? You're making a joke right? We've had our share of meth-heads & crack heads who behave violently, often to get their next fix, but just because marijuana is on the legal medical list (and still not proven to be physically addictive), it and all it's calming "mellowing" qualities you want to tie this to a violent crime? I am laughing as I am sure you must have intended this as a joke, albeit a lame one, but a joke nonetheless.

anti-thug

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 10:23 p.m.

there is a myth that nobody in Ann Arbor a crimal. Did you ever stop and think that Ann Arbor residents could commit crime in other citys?

treetowncartel

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 10:10 p.m.

robbing from the bank? While an employee? really? i never thought any one made a personal gain from their position.

treetowncartel

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 10:03 p.m.

Hearsay, thank goodness it can't get you convicted.And BTW everyone, I just realized what I have been contributing to over the years. All I have to say is are you serious?

bunnyabbot

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 9:56 p.m.

b/c andy I can...and really I don't not enjoy the back and forth "ypsi causes the a2 crime" thing

jernalyzt

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 9:40 p.m.

Of course, just because they haven't arrested anyone doesn't mean they haven't brought anyone in for questioning. The man tackled by police on Packard was undoubtedly brought in for questioning in relation to this crime. I know this for a fact. I don't want to say any more out of concern of violating anyone's privacy who was at the scene, but I know for a fact police tackled this person in connection with the bank robbery.

Joshua

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 9:23 p.m.

I've also heard of suspects being arrested, but as Ms. Nash pointed out, that's not true. Aside from annarbor.com, there's another good source of information on twitter: http://twitter.com/a2gov

jernalyzt

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 9:21 p.m.

Amalie, if that is true, then I apologize for being insulting. As a parent I'm a little stressed that the information I'm getting is very different from what I'm seeing on the news. But I KNOW the person who was driving down Packard today, tumbled over the front of her car, and was tackled by police. She was interviewed. It could be he was a suspect who proved to not be related to the crime and ran, because, well...who knows. When I was at Bryant School tonight, a teacher came out and told me a suspect had just been apprehended on the Pattengill playground. She had been at Pattengill during the lockdown, and I assumed she got that information on the phone from another teacher she just talked to at Pattengill. You might want to ask the police about these specific reports. Maybe they can't tell you any more than "we have not arrested any suspects in connection with this robbery," but that is the information I have.

annarbor

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 9:11 p.m.

@ Jernalytz- Your sources were wrong. No one was apprehended in this crime as I too have fairly reliable sources and no one, absolutely no one is in custody for this bank robbery.

jernalyzt

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 8:59 p.m.

Okay, I'm getting annoyed with annarbor.com's ability to find out this information and/or the AAPD's unwillingness to release it. I know that a suspect was apprehended on Packard Rd. about noon today, because I know someone who saw it. Early this evening, a reliable faculty source told me a second suspect was apprehended on the Pattengill School playground, about an hour after the kids were sent home on buses or picked up by parents (and after they spent several hours huddling on the floors in their classrooms; my kid was there). Assuming these were the right suspects, folks, can we please GET SOME UPDATES? I guess this is what you call "community journalism." This old reporter, however, is asking you to ask some questions. There could be "damage control" efforts in place. Now if the annarbor.com staff decides to delete this message for, say, "unverifiable information" or some other such nonsense, I will throw up my hands and say, well, this is what we're left with, folks.

Gorc

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 8:31 p.m.

Treetowncartel please elaborate how working at the bank is the best way to steal from the bank.

GreenEggsandHam

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 8:23 p.m.

Wake up and smell your Starbucks Ann Arbor! Crime is everywhere and in the end its makes no differance where the crooks came from.Your city can now join the ranks of all the other "bad" crime ridden areas folks on here like to name and blame to make their city special.

treetowncartel

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 8:05 p.m.

@ Atticus, I feel your pain bro, as has anyone who has had their comment moved to the ancient commentary guidelines thread. Are those really Pioneer Basketball Shorts? Or do they just look like them? BTW, the best way to rob a bank is to work at it.

AA

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 8 p.m.

@ JOE: "My intention was to elevate what is expected in AA versus putting down another locale." What??? What is expected in AA? Oh, I guess you are better than the surrounding cities? What is expected, what?

Joe Hood

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 7:52 p.m.

What was the police response time? How far away was a squad car? Which precautions were taken after the last bank robbery here? I'm guessing that the FBI takes over the investigation from here.

Quercus Alba

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 7:46 p.m.

@Meg: I refuse to feel guilty about telling aggressive panhandlers to step off. It's not a class issue; it's a safety issue.

Soothslayer

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 7:29 p.m.

@bunny why did you have to insinuate the perps are from ypsi twp and specific areas within just because it was brought up in "other articles" not related to this one. seems like the same failed logic just by stating this. ypsi pride through and through (twp and all). peace

breadman

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 7:12 p.m.

Why is Fox 2 news more updated then the AAcom. On the news it said they left the Chrysler Sebing stolen from Pittsfield Twp. was left behind in the parking lot of the bank from Wednesday Night. And also one of the guns were left behind. Is the public of Ann Arbor missing something???

Craig Lounsbury

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 6:53 p.m.

If they were both wearing masks how does anyone know they were in their 20's?

Gorc

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 6:23 p.m.

The surveillance photos are pretty good. Joe Public expects images to have the same quality as a CSI episode. This isn't Hollywood....it's real life.

ezbngreen

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 6:12 p.m.

Looks like two more will soon graduate to finishing school in MDOC. Lets hope they get many years.

Meg

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 6:11 p.m.

@Joe: Classism isn't pretty. Is that one of the Ann Arbor values you're so proud of?

Bogie

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 5:41 p.m.

I know that underwear. I've seen it before!! HAHA!

Tony Livingston

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 5:22 p.m.

I can't believe he wore Pioneer basketball shorts. Now that's school spirit!

JPLewis

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 5:11 p.m.

They will be caught. A high percentage of bank robbers are.

jaynor

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 5:06 p.m.

Many thanks to those responsible for sending out the warning phone calls and emails. Police? Neighborhood Watch? Several of us in the Kensington Farms area are seniors now and we don't run too fast anymore....

Slider

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 5:02 p.m.

Joe, you are adorable.

Joe

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:53 p.m.

Stacey, if you read my initial comment, you'll see the use of the word "and." This is called a "conjunction" which joins two separate thoughts. In other words, I am pointing out TWO issues..."stand up to this type of scum" and "stop the homeless from accosting." Didn't you read that Ann Arbor is now the homeless capital of SE Michigan? You may have missed the article about that. And when my wife was recently accosted downtown by some homeless guys to whom she won't give money, I drew the line. Thank God I was there to put an end to that in fast fashion. Not going to put up with it anymore.

bunnyabbot

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:47 p.m.

I believe the insulting ypsi in other comments on other stories has morphed into "ypsi twp" insulting and somewhat pinpointed to the west willow neighborhood. I doubt these thugs are homeless, if I were a betting person I would say I'd wager on they live at home with mom or grandma, who does their laundry, have a least one baby mama and if they live in ypsi it's really ypsi twp.... the cops always hold more info closer to the chest than we know about. SO, chances are these guys will be seen on surveillance cameras from a gas station or something, for some reason robbers always go to the gas station before or after a "job"

Joe

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:46 p.m.

Good point. No insult intended. Both Ypsilanti and Detroit are fine places to live. Like Ann Arbor, each city has its own culture, dynamic, property values, implied level of personal safety, and crime statistics. My comment would have been better to say "you might as well move elsewhere, etc, etc." My intention was to elevate what is expected in AA versus putting down another locale.

Jim

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:44 p.m.

Bonnie and Clyde live on.

Stacey

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:42 p.m.

Joe-I'm not sure where in the story it said that these two are homeless. Assuming that because they committed a crime is ignorant on your part.

Tom Joad

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:39 p.m.

blue nitrile gloves? Someone's got an allergy to latex

Mark

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:36 p.m.

Now, why do you have to insult Ypsilanti like that? We are not Detroit.

Joe

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:31 p.m.

If you live in AA and love where you live, then this is your wake up call. If we're not careful, this is only the beginning. I live here because I love this city. Unless we stand up to this scum and stop the homeless from accosting people all over town, you might as well move to Ypsi or Detroit and enjoy cheaper property taxes. I'm sick and tired of this garbage. Stay out of my city!!!!!

Chuck

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:21 p.m.

That's as clear as mud.

bunnyabbot

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:14 p.m.

@killabee, I would think the shooting was part of shock and awe (I'm in charge, do as I say, etc) it's a way to "establish" authority and control of the situation from the criminals standpoint, or so I am guessing as I have had no training.... side note, someone will recognize the shoes in combination with that backside and boxer shorts combo

Atticus F.

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 4:03 p.m.

@treetowncartell, I posted a desciption of a vehicle that a saw being towed from the lot around noon today...But for some reason the editors erased my post.

ThaKillaBee

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:58 p.m.

Is there any word on what exactly they were shooting at? Were they aiming at people or just shooting in the air as a distraction?

Eric Miller

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:55 p.m.

@Mark A. No kidding! I think every other bank in town has glass now.

bunnyabbot

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:33 p.m.

*had to have seen them

Mark

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:28 p.m.

I contend that since there are more than one pair of purple shorts and orange shoes in the world, these kids have an even chance of getting away with it, even if they get picked up. Reasonable doubt, yo.

boom

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:22 p.m.

Great point Bunny. I also think the tips will roll in if a reward is offered. Somebody knows who these two guys are. They will recognize the orange shoes or the purple shorts.

treetowncartel

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:21 p.m.

Any idea what type of car it was and where it was stolen from, or are they not releasing that information due to the ongoing investigation? One would think that if they left the car they probably had another one waiting, or someone waiitng in one for them, nearby.

naturally

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:20 p.m.

Those orange shoes have GOT to be a dead give away -- not very inconspicuous.

nowayjose

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:18 p.m.

@ Greggy D, Pretty sure the police aren't hoping anyone to recognize them with the mask. Someone might recognize the clothes, and shoes. Im sure if the police didn't release the pics, everyone would complain that they didn't.

Mark A.

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:17 p.m.

Maybe the bank will install glass now.

bunnyabbot

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:17 p.m.

actually the images are not that bad compared to the grainy ones we often see posted from surveillance cameras attached to these stories. For one, someone saw these two guys earlier today whereing those shorts and those shoes. So it is likely someone will be able to indentify them from these images, however unlikely they would turn them in.

redline

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:16 p.m.

Looks to me like Pioneer or former students...who else wears purple ski mask or shorts.

Mark

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:16 p.m.

Two short, stocky, black men in their 20s are the suspects? Yeah. Good luck finding the perpetrators. It's not like there are thousands of stocky black short men in their twenties in Washtenaw county... I condemn the act but I have to commend the professionalism thereof.

Andrea

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:09 p.m.

The guy at the door has a shotgun and they are still on the loose.

Slider

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:03 p.m.

Both perpetrators, each in his own way, were half covered below the waist. I hope the one in shorts will not catch a chill, it has been cool today when the sun ducks behind the clouds. Glad no one was hurt.

Greggy_D

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 3:02 p.m.

"Police are hoping someone may recognize the bank robbers." Seriously? With those ski masks on? "latex gloves" Actually those look like light blue nitrile gloves, the same kind that can be found at Harbor Freight on Ellsworth. From the pics they look much more form-fitting than dishwashing latex gloves.

Bob W

Thu, Oct 21, 2010 : 2:54 p.m.

You're kidding on the surveillance images, right??