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Posted on Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 5:58 a.m.

8 major street projects to expect in Ann Arbor in 2013: Did your street make the list?

By Ryan J. Stanton

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Major construction work wraps up on Dexter Avenue in Ann Arbor back in November.

Melanie Maxwell | AnnArbor.com file photo

It might be hard to imagine spring or summer during these freezing-cold winter weeks, but the weather will be warming up eventually, and that means the start of road construction.

Which streets in Ann Arbor will be lined with orange barrels this year?

AnnArbor.com asked the city's project management unit for a list of expected major street projects for 2013, and the following eight streets topped the list:

  • Miller (Maple to Newport)
  • Madison (Seventh to Main)
  • State (Oakbrook to Eisenhower)
  • Depot (Main to Carey)
  • Fourth Avenue (Huron to Liberty)
  • Barton (Pontiac to Plymouth)
  • Forest Avenue (S. University to Hill)
  • Packard (Anderson to Eisenhower)

Senior Project Manager Liz Rolla said depending on bid prices and other factors, the list could change. Rolla said the city also plans to resurface multiple local streets this year, but that list hasn't been finalized just yet.

Which streets in Ann Arbor do you think are in bad shape? Where should the city focus its attention this summer? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.

Ryan J. Stanton covers government and politics for AnnArbor.com. Reach him at ryanstanton@annarbor.com or 734-623-2529. You also can follow him on Twitter or subscribe to AnnArbor.com's email newsletters.

Comments

TechniumCycle89

Mon, Feb 18, 2013 : 9:19 p.m.

I need the darn bike lanes on Packard from downtown about Hill to Jewitt fixed, those are treacherous. Also HURON! That whole strip from at least Main to all down Jackson. Biking is deadly, and trying to drive it? Psh, not taking that chance.

A2Cat66

Mon, Feb 18, 2013 : 3:22 p.m.

Come on ...Packard between Anderson and Eisenhower are you joking... ? How about Packard between Platt and Eisenhower...? anybody see anything wrong with that section? We have a beautiful road between Platt and Carpenter on Packard from last year... why not finish that out...? Besides did anyone stop to think that the Old Kroger on Packard is going to be torn down and rebuilt and we want all the construction vehicles driving on that new stretch of road... really !! How about Platt between Huron parkway and Packard... there was a major water main break in that section of road last fall, this was the second part of the pipe that burst.. will there be another part that ruptures underneath? Perhaps we need to repair that section of watermain once a for all along with the road.

Wondering

Sat, Feb 16, 2013 : 6:56 p.m.

I suppose one way to address the Jackson Ave from Maple to Huron controversy is simply not to do anything. Then the folks asking questions regarding the current plan will get their appropriate comeuppance :-)) , and the road will become SO impassable compared to the newly reconstructed Dexter and Miller corridors that the number of cars traveling that stretch of Jackson will come down more than enough to justify the 3-lane solution. We can hope instead that the reasons are because we are awaiting promised shared funding and planning input from other governmental entities, or awaiting data from the traffic study that was suggested as an important step in deciding to reduce the number of lanes. Of course the above two paragraphs work together in very interesting ways. :-))

whale11

Fri, Feb 8, 2013 : 7:04 a.m.

Stadium between Main St. and the new bridge.

a2nancy

Sun, Feb 3, 2013 : 3:34 a.m.

a2nancy Definitely W. Huron/Jackson between Seventh and Maple should be done.

Indymama

Wed, Jan 30, 2013 : 5:22 a.m.

Miller and Forest Ave are on the list! Hurrah!! When they do Barton Drive is there any way they can widen the block between Traver and Plymouth? People who want to turn right at Plymouth Rd. often have to wait for a second light because the cars turning left take up both narrow lanes closest to Plymouth Road,

Dave

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 7:24 p.m.

Birch Hollow? Tacoma Circle? Stone School?

Lewis M

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 1:44 p.m.

Stadium blvd to the west of the repaired bridge is in ridiculously bad shape! I would like to drive Mr. Dingle back and forth over that stretch for an hour and then have him stand atop the bridge for one of his famous photo ops! Talk about a milkshake..... I cant believe that this area (that had VERY LIMITED traffic for a year) wasn't repaired. Come on A2.

jns131

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 3:21 p.m.

Agreed. Although I will miss that hi jump just after Stadium to the bridge. What a thrill.

Mike

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 1:15 a.m.

Jackson from Stadium/Maple to First and yes Ann Arbor Saline near 94

justcurious

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 7:22 p.m.

People like to make comparisons between Ann Arbor and Madison Wisconsin. They are both northern college towns. I wonder how their street conditions compare to Ann Arbor's?

Vivienne Armentrout

Tue, Feb 12, 2013 : 1:30 p.m.

I visited Madison, where I went to graduate school, about 10 years ago. Their roads were excellent. I think that they lay a much deeper roadbed, and then use concrete. Wisconsin has had budget troubles like everyone else, so I don't know how the roads are today.

Mermaidswim

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 5:45 p.m.

Yay! My son ruined so many bike tires on Madison. The patches have patches which have patches.

yaybikes

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 5:33 p.m.

Glad to see Fourth Ave on the list. I have almost popped bike tires on that stretch there.

Max

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:41 p.m.

Look at people clamoring for road repairs. I wonder whether they are as willing to pay higher gas prices?

Frank Lee

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 8:59 p.m.

Funny how road repairs in Michigan have come down to the willingness of its residents to pony up extra funds. The Treasury Department openly admits that it has been over 6 years since funds have even been audited. With corruption as prevalent as it is in our state, Supreme Court Justices guilty of bank fraud, etc…..I'm not willing to spend another penny until you can account for what's already been "spent". We have some of the worst roads in the nation and they don't even bother to audit the funds used to maintain them in over 6 years….Unbelievable! REF: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/audit-knocks-mich-oversight-road-151007524.html

KJMClark

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 1:05 p.m.

Heck yeah, higher gas taxes, and especially diesel taxes, are long overdue. Just ask the Governor, or the last one, or the one before that. But we also need to lower the truck weight limits. And ban that pesky freeze/thaw cycle! I'd vote for temps to stick below freezing from the winter solstice to the spring equinox, as long as we didn't get deep freezes before and after that. Have to get the legislature working on that...

Silly Sally

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 11:57 a.m.

I rather pay higher gas taxes than car repair bills for front end damage.

Basic Bob

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 5:22 a.m.

I'm definitely willing to pay more, even on my car registrations. Anything we can do to extract our share of federal highway funds is going to help, especially if all we have to do is come up with a 10% or 20% match.

CynicA2

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 5:15 p.m.

Less "art", bike lanes, and nanny-state crosswalk ordinances will result in plenty more $$ for road repairs. Gotta get rid of the nanny-state mayor first, though.

Elijah Shalis

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:26 p.m.

Why isn't Stone School on that list? It is in way worse shape than the listed roads.

Amy Biolchini

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:19 p.m.

For those interested in what the Washtenaw County Road Commission is doing this year, here are five major projects coming up: - Construction of a $2.3 million roundabout at State Street and Ellsworth Road in Pittsfield Township - $3 million replacement of the Ford Boulevard Bridge over the Norfolk Southern Railroad in Ypsilanti Township - Construction of a $1.2 million roundabout at Geddes and Ridge roads in Superior Township - $1.9 million extension of the Border-to-Border non-motorized path in the Village of Dexter and in Dexter Township - $3 million worth of work in the county's annual overlay and road resurfacing program, using federal dollars http://www.annarbor.com/news/8-things-to-watch-for-in-washtenaw-county-this-year/ I'll be reporting on the roads under the WCRC's jurisdiction that will be resurfaced this year in an upcoming story.

Indymama

Wed, Jan 30, 2013 : 5:52 a.m.

PLEASE STOP putting in round-abouts!! Geddes road will soon be one big Circle!! Those round-abouts are way too small. and many drivers miss the actual round road because the "circle" is way too small. The volume of traffic at State St & Ellsworth will cause longer delays in getting across intersection or even turning! Too many drivers will stop or won't be able to merge quickly because of constant oncoming traffic. I don't know who is responsible for designing the roundabouts, but they need to be fired!!!

Seasoned Cit

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:47 p.m.

While considering resurfacing, Shouldn't the asphalt being used be improved? The rutting and washboard effect that appear at busy intersections, especially those on bus routes shows that the new surfaces do not hold up. Should larger aggregate mixtures be specified?

a2cents

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 5:54 p.m.

Concrete

J. Zarman

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:41 p.m.

Regarding Carpenter Road, between Washtenaw Ave and Packard Rd..... Washtenaw County Road Commission is responsible for that stretch of Carpenter Rd. Reconstruction of that portion is on the books for 2014, as part of their proposed 5-year plan (last revised and updated in 2011). It's not official yet that Carpenter reconstruction will actually be done in 2014, but simply "high priority." http://www.wcroads.org/News/Township/Capital Contact the Road Commission and your County Commissioner to let them know the urgency of this project.

Amy Biolchini

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:16 p.m.

J., you're right about the WCRC being in charge of that road. They are planning on reconstructing that portion of the roadway, which is 40+ years old, in 2014 in a $1.75 million project. The project will also include installation of two mid-block pedestrian crossings.

Sandy Herold

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:38 p.m.

Street repair-m Scio Church from Main to 7th. Saline Ann Arbor from Eisenhower to Waters/Lohr road. Both of these have patches on top of patches.

Ryan J. Stanton

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:30 p.m.

Here's a story we had last year on Ann Arbor-Saline Road. City officials said they expected the multi-jurisdictinal project would move forward in May 2013. http://www.annarbor.com/news/ann-arbor-saline-road-resurfacing-project-will-move-ahead-in-2013-after-winning-373k-state-grant/

timjbd

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 12:19 a.m.

Why are you guys not able to do hyperlinking? It can't possibly cost that much?

Ryan J. Stanton

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:26 p.m.

The 8 projects mentioned in the story are a mix of resurfacing and reconstruction projects (reconstruct means they're completely ripping up the road, and usually when that happens they're also doing underground utility work, too). So, here's some more info: Miller - reconstruct Madison - reconstruct State St. - resurface Depot - resurface Fourth Ave. - reconstruct Barton resurface Forest Ave. - reconstruct Packard - resurface

A2LK

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:02 p.m.

Couldn't agree more with SusanRk. That was my first thought when I read this article. All that work for the beautiful bridge and the short stretch in front of the stadium is a disaster. Not even a cosmetic fix.

BlueEyesGirl

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:13 p.m.

And they already had the road closed to 90% of traffic. I drive that every day, and I get so frustrated it wasn't done w/ the huge bridge project!

Rose Garden

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:01 p.m.

I think that Susan Rk's admittance that she was trying to splash a pedestrian is shameful. What joy does she get from this?

KJMClark

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 12:50 p.m.

Yeah, it's illegal too. Has been for at least 20 years. Glad it rotted out her alternator! Ha ha! Not a very funny joke either way, is it?

jns131

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:43 p.m.

Agreed. Lighten up. It is fun to go thru puddles at hi speeds. Especially the bigger vehicle you have. Wheee..........

Tex Treeder

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:08 p.m.

Lighten up, Francis.

pierre manley

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:19 p.m.

Please please the lower block on Jewett Ave between Page Ave and South Industrial is in dire need of repair you almost have to drive on the left side of the street to miss all of the broken part of the road..........P Manley

Frank Lee

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:13 p.m.

Can we expect the Geddes Road sink holes to be repaired just east of Huron Parkway? Occasionally throwing cold patch in sink holes as the sub grade continues to be undermined is not a repair.

Frank Lee

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 6:28 p.m.

The creek/drainage caused one of the holes. Workers accessing the water main caused the others. Regardless, you repair the road with compacted asphalt. Cold patch should only be used when you plan to open the hole again in a matter of days...not months or years. Cold patch should really not be used at all in that large of a hole. The city's response is "Repairs to underground infrastructure still on going. Permanent repair will be completed when initial cause is completed. Road pavement is still temporary and acceptable for use". A quick search of AnnArbor.com will return related articles from April of 2012. There's nothing "temporary" about (roughly) 10 months.

Basic Bob

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 5:18 a.m.

Maybe they will try to re-route the creek again. But it keeps insisting on going under the road and washing out the foundation.

TruthMan

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:10 p.m.

AMAZING!!! Some of the worst asphalt in the county is at the intersection of Ann Arbor/Saline Road and I-94, the main southern entrance to the city, particularly for the 100,000 or more coming to Ann Arbor for football Saturdays. 10,000 people a day have to maneuver through potholes and a surface that hasn't been redone in twenty years. And it's not on the list ... again. The Road Commission estimated two years ago that it would only cost $200,000 to redo it all, and that would be split three ways with the city, county, and state ... and it still is a mess. What would it take to get something started on the entrance to our city ?????

justcurious

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:58 p.m.

It helps to try to read previous comments and answers before you comment yourself.

Martha Cojelona Gratis

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:56 p.m.

It will be interesting to see how they handle Forest Avenue (S. University to Hill) seeing how there is a parking garage and children's day care center on that small stretch.

aabikes

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:54 p.m.

How will bicycle lanes and sharrows be incorporated into these projects? PS 4th between Huron and Liberty is HUGE. I almost go over the handlebars every time I forget how bad it is and ride down that street.

Mary Sell

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 7:15 p.m.

I'm also very excited to see if additional biking infrastructure will be incorporated into these road projects! A few comments in re-buttle to the car centric folks as well. 1. A great study by Todd Litman, titled "Who's Roads" details that automobile users pay an average of 2.3 cents per mile in user fees, including fuel taxes and vehicle registration fees, while they actually impose 6.5 cents per mile in road service costs, with this (large) discrepancy in available funding paid by general taxes (property taxes, etc.) While cyclists pay these same taxes, they actually only impose an average cost of .2 per mile in road service costs. 2. In addition to paying 100% of the same general taxes as local drivers, almost ALL cyclists own a vehicle as well and pay the same user registration fees as those that drive more frequently. Gas taxes have been largely insufficient for many, many years due to increasing fuel efficiency across the fleet nationally - so it's likely that future taxes for roads will come in the form of additional user registration fees, further leveling this field. 3. Cycling reduces congestion, improves air quality, and lowers health care costs through improving the health of those opting to utilize this transportation option. So before we start pointing fingers and calling each other names, let's actually investigate a bit more, no? I'm all for an honest and open debate about what is important to our community, but to spread false accusations is counter productive at best. If of interest, here are a few additional articles/reports on this topic. http://www.seattlepi.com/default/article/Cyclists-ride-on-roads-their-taxes-pay-for-1249681.php http://cdn.publicinterestnetwork.org/assets/28b773b9f18cdb23da3e48a8d7884854/Do-Roads-Pay-for-Themselves_-wUS.pdf

KJMClark

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 12:48 p.m.

Hey Hendel & Halter, you mean my road construction millage goes to something other than rebuilding the roads? Did you know that state law says at *least* 1% of gas and weight tax money *must* go to bike/pedestrian projects? And the USDOT really doesn't care what you think, they provide funding for bike projects because they want a balanced transportation system. Take that up with your legislators. I pay every dime I'm required to. I use those bike lanes, which means my car and truck get less use. But I pay the same in weight taxes whether I use them a lot or a little. Since my truck only gets used about a thousand miles a year, I'd say the rest of that tax goes toward my bike portion. Happy?

Halter

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 12:28 a.m.

Hopefully, they will realize the bikelanes are a folly for about a dozen riders at the expense of the rest of the city and do away with all that business.... My taxes and fees on each gallon of gasoline are paying to fix the roads -- for ME and my car...not your bike...

Steve Hendel

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 9:19 p.m.

When will cyclists start paying something towards the cost of bicycle lanes? Right now, motorists ( through fuel taxes and vehicle license & registration fees) are footing the bill.

djm12652

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:34 p.m.

I have stepped sideways into some of the "cracks" on 4th Avenue at night more than once and taken a header into the street....as a senior, it takes longer to heal....but I haven't tripped nearly as much as the young ladies in their heels for a night out on the town...or after a night out. Brutal!

Katherine Griswold

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:35 p.m.

Part of Geddes Avenue was resurfaced last year, but not the area near Hickory Lane, just west of Huron Parkway. The westbound lane has long, deep cracks and slopes down towards the shoulder, which has deteriorated and washed down a steep 30' slope. Without a guardrail, this is a very dangerous condition that needs immediate attention.

Sooze

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:28 p.m.

I assumed each time I crashed thru the broken pavement on either side of the new Stadium Bridge that we would see improvements first thing in spring. No?? Why on earth not? The rest of Stadium has been done recently.

justcurious

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:24 p.m.

Miller Rd. is long overdue. Now that Dexter is finished I'm glad they are turning attention to Miller. Glad Jackson between Maple and Huron isn't on that list yet. That's going to be a travesty.

leaguebus

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 3:48 a.m.

Jackson is scheduled for 2014.

Ross

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:15 p.m.

Thats an MDOT project though, right? Not city of ann arbor. So it could still be imminent.

david singsank

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 12:58 p.m.

Stone school Rd between I94 and Ellsworth is terrible! Also State St east to the railway bridge is terrible!

rouzer

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 12:21 p.m.

Stone School Rd. between Eisenhower & Ellsworth definitely needs a resurface. So does Eisenhower from Stone School to Packard and Packard to Platt.

Megan

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 12:18 p.m.

I can't believe the very busy stretch of Carpenter, between Washtenaw and Packard is not on this list. It has to be one of the worst stretches of road. Everything around it gets fixed, but not this one important section!

Basic Bob

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 5:14 a.m.

Jack, do we need hawk lights 75 feet from the crosswalk? That's where the pedestrian was hit. Potholes are not a traffic calming feature when drivers have to zigzag around them.

Jack

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 6:11 p.m.

@amy - So another dangerous pedestrian crossing will be created in a 40 mph zone. They need hawk lights so people don't get killed.

sun runner

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:39 p.m.

When I moved to Ann Arbor in 1998 that section of Carpenter road was undergoing a complete rebuild from the ground up that lasted into 1999. I noticed a few years ago that the "new" road had deteriorated into a wretched state. I found it rather sad and pathetic the road wasn't built to last much longer than a decade. Surely there is a better way.

Amy Biolchini

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 3:15 p.m.

Megan: Carpenter Road between Washtenaw and Packard is on the Washtenaw County Road Commission's list for 2014. It'll be a $1.75 million project in which two pedestrian mid-block crossings will be added, like the one that was added this year: http://www.annarbor.com/news/carpenter-road-crosswalk/

foobar417

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 12:21 p.m.

It's not in Ann Arbor, so it's not going to be on this list. That's Pittsfield Township.

motorcycleminer

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 11:59 a.m.

Have to totally agree with SusanRk....Stadium after Zilwaukee south is a disaster ...Great job of planning not to do it when it was all shut off ( probably no obamabucks )....It's just a joke.....as to the traffic light's in Oz don't even ask... an 8 year old gamer could do a better job ...but weve got art......miles and miles of broken and uneven ground sculpture.....

jns131

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:52 p.m.

Ann Arbor has heart when it comes to art. But when it comes to the roads? We spent it on art. As for blame? Bush is old, nobama is new. Especially after appointing some members without authorization. Interesting.

Krupper1

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:41 p.m.

Wait, I thought everything was Bush's fault?

timjbd

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 12:05 p.m.

Yes, I was thinking Obama must somehow be to blame for that. And the moon cycles.

Shelly

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 11:54 a.m.

Ann Arbor-Saline at 94 has been horrible for years!

a2migrl

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 4:52 p.m.

@jns131 - People get upset because the drivers that cut thru their neighborhood do not respect the fact that it is a residential area. The speed limit is for somebody/anybody else. They speed thru at 40+/mph and expect the residents to not get upset.

jns131

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:48 p.m.

No matter how it turns out? Someone is going to complain that their neighborhood is being used as a thoroughfare. It will get messy. But that bridge needs to be done and done right.

MRunner73

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 4:45 p.m.

Not sure why this stretch of road keeps getting ignored. it is far worse that State Street bet Oakbrook and Eisenhower. I wonder what's up with that one?

Dagrmc McEwen

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:10 p.m.

Mayor of A2 said the same. If not true, then, it's time for new politicians and road commission people.

Paul

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:03 p.m.

sellers, as nearby resident of this intersection, that's good news to hear! I'm wondering where you received this information. Thank you.

conairaa

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:54 p.m.

If sellers is not mistaken, we'd better hope this repair is done before the work on the roundabout at Ellsworth and State begins. Otherwise there will be no north/south corridor with no construction, and I can't think of any alternate routes that would not mean miles of extra driving.

sellers

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 11:58 a.m.

The state of Michigan is handling this intersection, not Ann Arbor. It is scheduled to start in April if I recall correctly. Remember, WCRC with MDOT handle state and federally funded roadways.

thehawk

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 11:51 a.m.

Stone School is rattling my car apart.

Stephen Lange Ranzini

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 11:41 a.m.

Beyond just rebuilding the roads (many are well overdue), I think they ought to be smarter. We should price out and if feasible, buy and install the technology that allows lights to be computerized and synchronized dynamically, so that lights change as traffic flows change. This would reduce traffic delays for all motorists traveling through the city. Using this technology, busses could also change lights in their favor speeding mass transit. I believe that the return on investment from this technology would be high, so let's explore doing it!

DennisP

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 : 6:28 p.m.

Remember the proposed 5-minute idling limit ordinance which, thankfully, died? With the way lights are timed in AA now, you could get a ticket at Main and Stadium just waiting for the light to turn green.

Silly Sally

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:55 p.m.

This works best for the one-way streets, since if on a two way street, when you time it for one direction- it fails to work for the other direction. The silly traffic "engr." of Ann Arbor loves overly controling people with the "no turn" signs and red arrows.

Michael Prozinski

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:45 p.m.

The city already does this, but agree it could be expanded and extended. See: http://www.a2gov.org/government/publicservices/project_management/trafengineer/Pages/TrafficSinals.aspx

Craig Lounsbury

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:14 p.m.

In my experience in Phoenix AZ in the 70's the light timing thing is only as good as people going the speed limit. At 11 o'clock at night I could miles and never hit a red light. But during the day all bets are off. People would race to the next light then have to stop because they were timed for 40 MPH and people were doing 50 in between. Then it all gets backed up and the system falls apart. As long as traffic is limited or people actually go the speed limit instead of 5-9mph over it works great.

Jim Osborn

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:50 p.m.

Good idea. An even better one is to eliminate the red left turn arrows, and replace almost all of them with the flashing yellow. In Florida, there are few intersections with solid red left turn arrows, They all are the equivalent of the flashing yellow. Ann Arbor has almost none, keeping drivers that desire to turn waiting when there is no opposing traffic Another thing that could speed up traffic flow is the removal of so many "NO TURN ON RED" traffic signs that seem to exist only as money makers for the city and insurance companies.

SusanRk

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 11:30 a.m.

I am shocked and awed that the E Stadium stretch between 7th and the bridge isn't being done. My alternator was ruined once from a huge puddle in the street. Well I was trying to splash a pedestrian so I guess my bad.

A24Mee

Tue, Feb 12, 2013 : 8:11 p.m.

Me too!!!

Jack

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 5:59 p.m.

They had the perfect chance to fix the portion between Main and the bridge during bridge construction. I was stunned when the bridge opened to see it untouched. That stretch is absolutely terrible.

jns131

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:51 p.m.

Actually you can get air borne if you get enough speed just as you are coming past the stadium and on to the new bridge. There is a dip so mean that is it is like Cedar Point revisited. Between Main and the bridge? Needs work badly. Otherwise, happy flying.

conundrummy

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 2:07 p.m.

This section always floods. One of these days a car is going to hydro plane and create an accident. Being near the stadium and high school increases the chance of someone getting hit by a hydro planing car.

A2since74

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:29 p.m.

To say nothing of how crummy it looks compared to the new Stadium West of 7th and the new bridge itself, and to the renovated stadium itself.

tdw

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 1:15 p.m.

SusanRk...thanks for starting my with a chuckle

Bob W

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 : 11:40 a.m.

Have to agree on this one. Very bad condition and the drainage between Main and Seventh is pretty much nonexistent.