joe

Sat, Dec 18, 2010 : 2:36 a.m.

some government officials were alarmed by the apparent conflicts of interest. In his e-mail to CDC administrators in 1999, Paul Patriarca of the FDA blasted federal regulators for failing to adequately scrutinize the danger posed by the added baby vaccines. "I'm not sure there will be an easy way out of the potential perception that the FDA, CDC and immunization-policy bodies may have been asleep at the switch re: thimerosal until now," Patriarca wrote. The close ties between regulatory officials and the pharmaceutical industry, he added, "will also raise questions about various advisory bodies regarding aggressive recommendations for use" of thimerosal in child vaccines. If federal regulators and government scientists failed to grasp the potential risks of thimerosal over the years, no one could claim ignorance after the secret meeting at Simpsonwood. But rather than conduct more studies to test the link to autism and other forms of brain damage, the CDC placed politics over science. The agency turned its database on childhood vaccines -- which had been developed largely at taxpayer expense -- over to a private agency, America's Health Insurance Plans, ensuring that it could not be used for additional research. It also instructed the Institute of Medicine, an advisory organization that is part of the National Academy of Sciences, to produce a study debunking the link between thimerosal and brain disorders. The CDC "wants us to declare, well, that these things are pretty safe," Dr. Marie McCormick, who chaired the IOM's Immunization Safety Review Committee, told her fellow researchers when they first met in January 2001. "We are not ever going to come down that [autism] is a true side effect" of thimerosal exposure. According to transcripts of the meeting, the committee's chief staffer, Kathleen Stratton, predicted that the IOM would conclude that the evidence was "inadequate to accept or reject a causal relation" between thimerosal and autism. That, she added, was the result "Walt wants" -- a reference to Dr. Walter Orenstein, director of the National Immunization Program for the CDC.

joe

Sat, Dec 18, 2010 : 12:57 a.m.

Remember Edward, you opened this can of worms on Thimerosal and it ain't good. And you did not find the memo, you found a limited article about the memo in the Times. It has been cut short,The memo said this was not daily doses this was bolus doses at one point in time. When viewed in that way, it appears rather large. This was said in the Merck memo,not in the times article. He went more in depth in the memo, than the article. He said the FDA could not be trusted to do anything, because they were to close to the pharmaceutical industry. In 1935, researchers at another vaccine manufacturer, Pittman-Moore, warned Lilly that its claims about thimerosal's safety "did not check with ours." Half the dogs Pittman injected with thimerosal-based vaccines became sick, leading researchers there to declare the preservative "unsatisfactory as a serum intended for use on dogs." (My thoughts and my statement about my son)From what I heard the dogs would not stop turning in circles, and it was deemed to cruel to do any more experiments on the dogs. My son would take 2 steps and turn in circles, sound familiar. The idiots, poisoned the children period. In the decades that followed, the evidence against thimerosal continued to mount. During the Second World War, when the Department of Defense used the preservative in vaccines on soldiers, it required Lilly to label it "poison." In 1967, a study in Applied Microbiology found that thimerosal killed mice when added to injected vaccines. Four years later, Lilly's own studies discerned that thimerosal was "toxic to tissue cells" in concentrations as low as one part per million -- 100 times weaker than the concentration in a typical vaccine. Even so, the company continued to promote thimerosal as "nontoxic" and also incorporated it into topical disinfectants. In 1977, ten babies at a Toronto hospital died when an antiseptic preserved with thimerosal was dabbed onto their umbilical cords. In 1982, the FDA proposed a ban on over-the-counter products that contained thimerosal, and in 1991 the agency considered banning it from animal vaccines. But tragically, that same year, the CDC recommended that infants be injected with a series of mercury-laced vaccines. Newborns would be vaccinated for hepatitis B within twenty-four hours of birth, and two-month-old infants would be immunized for haemophilus influenzae B and diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis. This stuff is more Toxic, than anything we ever seen before.

joe

Fri, Dec 17, 2010 : 1:57 p.m.

Rork Kuick you said;Poison depends on dose. One person who you would not suspect, agreed with you. His name was Dr. Hilliman of Merck in fact he was the grand father of Mercks Vaccine program for children. His words were in A memo from Merck & Co. shows that, nearly a decade before the first public disclosure, senior executives were concerned that infants were getting an elevated dose of mercury in vaccinations containing a widely used sterilizing agent. The March 1991 memo, obtained by The Times, said that 6-month-old children who received their shots on schedule would get a mercury dose up to 87 times higher than guidelines for the maximum daily consumption of mercury from fish. He said this was not daily doses as such,this was Bolus doses at one point in time. He then said this; "When viewed in this way, the mercury load appears rather large," said the memo from Dr. Maurice R. Hilleman, an internationally renowned vaccinologist. It was written to the president of Merck's vaccine division. The memo was prepared at a time when U.S. health authorities were aggressively expanding their immunization schedule by adding five new shots for children in their first six months. Many of these shots, as well as some previously included on the vaccine schedule, contained thimerosal, an antibacterial compound that is nearly 50% ethyl mercury, a neurotoxin. Now Rork, keep this in mind Thimerosal crosses the BBB easier than doe's the fish mercury. According to an NIH paid study it goes up into the brain of primates, and it turns into Inorganic mercury at 2.5 times that as does the fish mercury. Now think about this, we are finding out that most of the children with Autism have a Mitochondria problem.Like the child Hannah Poling The most damaging to the Mitochondria, is (Inorganic mercury) Thimerosal it that turns into Inorganic mercury at 2.5 times as that does the fish mercury.

joe

Fri, Dec 17, 2010 : 1:18 p.m.

This replaces the other post, to Bonnie Offit or who ever. If you truly are Bonnie Offit, How do you as a healer allow and condone children being injected with Mercury and Aluminum? And with the proof of the children having heavy metal toxicity, as like mine. He has the labs from lab core, and they were ordered by a GP. not a Dan Dr. and they show he is heavy metal poisoned and he has all the signs and symptoms. He has never had fish,yet he is high in mercury. Bonnie if my son has heavy metal toxicity, with labs proving such. Can you you tell me if he can benefit, from the removal of the metals. And doe's the CDC recommended, or have they ever in the history of the CDC recommended this "chelation"?? the removal of heavy metals in particular Mercury that is 1000 times more Toxic than lead?? And is there any proof from history, where this method of heavy metal removal was used with great success?? Any?? Now that we have that out of the way,would it be inhumane to allow the children who have been found to be Heavy Metal Toxic to suffer and not treat them and allow them to remain. Mad as a hatter??? Please reply Bonnie, and anybody else who defends Heavy Metals and Toxins in our Children's vaccines.

Rork Kuick

Fri, Dec 17, 2010 : 11:19 a.m.

Poison depends on dose. Too much vitamin A will kill you. Are vegetables poisons? The TDaP contains no thimerosal. Get it. Before vaccine, pertussis killed 5-10 thousand per year in the U.S. It still kills hundreds of thousands per year world wide. It does get a bit tricky trying to estimate how much of the reduced mortality is due to vaccination, and how much to better treatment, but the number of cases has declined by 92%. Maybe everyone can see this 2007 review in JAMA (not sure): http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/298/18/2155.full That review also reports: 99% reduced mortality for diphtheria, mumps, pertussis, tetanus. Endemic transmission of polio and rubella eliminated. Smallpox eradicated. HepA, B, varicella, pneumonia, substantially reduced. When these things were more common, people lived in real fear, and disputed the benefit less. It's true that vaccines aren't perfect though. If you are not part of the solution, you are assisting in the sickness and death of other people, while obtaining the benefits of the rest of the herd doing their part to protect you and your family. Find your morals.

Doreen

Fri, Dec 17, 2010 : 2:24 a.m.

I know of parents whose babies died on the pediatricians examining table after a shot. Pertusis is the shot that has had the most adverse reactions. No connection? I beg to differ that you take the lives of our children so cavalierly. This a matter of money verses human health! Vaccines contain mercury aluminum, formaldehyde, components of anti-freeze and live viruses grown in the entrails of animals, and you believe that you can somehow cause artificial immunity that will recognise a certain virus and get rid of it. This did not work with the first vaccines because Jenner's son died after the shots, but that did not stop big pharma from taking over and making big profits. We have the evidence, all you have are vaccines that were grandfathered in without proof of safety. As I have said before, absence of proof isn't proof of absence. Try telling anyone with any sense left that any amount of a toxic poison like mercury is safe. It simply defies logic!

Ken

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 3:59 p.m.

"And keep in mind, there are 10 reported deaths from pertussis this year, and more than 30 deaths associated with the pertussis vaccine this year." 30 deaths - really? I'm guessing this number was gleaned from VAERS reports. The word "associated" in VAERS language means the deaths were reported up to nine months after the vaccine was administered. It's a meaningless correlation unless you compare that number to the background mortality rate for infants. It would be miraculous if no child ever died up to nine months after receiving any vaccine, because a certain number will die regardless of vaccine status. Life sucks. Kids die. But not from their pertussis shot. But sometimes they do die of pertussis, and sometimes they just get pneumonia or cough until they break a rib or rupture blood vessels. And you wonder why we call you "anti-vaccine." Please get your facts straight.

Rork Kuick

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 10:53 a.m.

We could use a better pertussis vaccine, and it's a very tricky situation that's not easily covered in news reports, but refusing DTaP vaccines is not contributing to the solution. Here's a review partly showing how our understanding is not very perfect, and some reasons why vaccine is not as good as you'd wish. http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=6207 Yes, that blog is often fighting anti-vax misinformation, which is a full-time job, as proven in the comments here.

Sarah Rigg

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 9:24 a.m.

I have a hard time understanding why anyone would take Wakefield seriously. He's had his medical license taken away and has been charged with misconduct. He also failed to reveal a conflict of intersest, that he took quite a lot of money from parents who wanted to prove the vaccine-autism link. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7134893.ece

Technojunkie

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 9:15 a.m.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIsFW5phHas I highly recommend the above interview series with Dr. Andrew Wakefield, the British doctor whose research started the vaccine/autism controversy. Summary: get your children vaccinated but use a much more conservative vaccination schedule than the ludicrously aggressive one recommended by the AAP. Assaulting developing immune systems with that many vaccines risks damage. Also, don't use acetaminophen as a fever reducer after vaccinations as it impairs the liver's ability to metabolize the vaccines. There are articles on pubmed about that. Primate studies on the AAP vaccine schedule were never done, something that Dr. Wakefield is attempting to correct.

joe

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 3:15 a.m.

In the real world, the children got several vaccines in the 90's and beyond, at one setting on one day. Not the 25 micro-grams,that only reflects 1 vaccine that they aways do the research on. And say we barely found anything, although the Simpson wood findings back then was able to produce a high enough risk for concern. But that was before the massaging of the data had began. The researcher that found children given 62.5 micro - grams by age three months had a 2.48 times risk of receiving ADD, ADHD, Speech Delay, or Autism, by the time the researcher was done massaging the data he was able to bring it down to 1.59. Which is below legal, in a twist of fate the CDC said that the researchers earlier work, the data that had found the 2.48 times risk. Had accidentally been lost or even destroyed. The children in the real world, got as much as 175 and 175 is the real number in micro grams to research and worry about not 25 as has been researched and found to be safe. And that 175 micro-grams can be given on one day at one setting at one point in time. Oh! BTW, the two independent researchers that got in to the VSD twice, found not 2.48 times risk or even 1.59 but 11 and 27 times risk DPT vs non Thimerosal DPT. The next day the CDC moved the VSD Data off the premises of the CDC, and put the Data base in the hands of a non governmental agency with express orders no independent researchers are to ever gain access to the Data base. If they do, the non governmental agency will give up the 190 million dollars that they contracted with the agency for. A non governmental Co. doe's not have to comply with the (FOIA) Freedom of Information Act of the US. As a black man once said, when talking about civil rights, " when I have documents in my hand, it's no longer what I think. It's what I know. Conspiracy theory,No!that is many yr's of researching this and reading everything that these people did to hide the mass accidental poisoning of the American children. It is not the Accidental poisoning that was criminal, it was what they the CDC and the FDA chose to do. When in the valley of decision of whether to tell the truth and help the children, or to lie and abandon the severely Vaccine damaged,it is with great sorrow I have to report that the CDC and the FDA chose to lie to the public and abandon the suffering children.

joe

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 3:08 a.m.

In the real world, the children got several vaccines in the 90's and beyond, at one setting on one day. Not the 25 micro-grams,that only reflects 1 vaccine that they aways do the research on. And say we barely found anything, although the Simpson wood findings back then was able to produce a high enough risk for concern. But that was before the massaging of the data had began. The researcher that found children given 62.5 micro - grams by age three months had a 2.48 times risk of receiving ADD, ADHD, Speech Delay, or Autism, by the time the researcher was done massaging the data he was able to bring it down to 1.59. Which is below legal, in a twist of fate the CDC said that the researchers earlier work, the data that had found the 2.48 times risk. Had accidentally been lost or even destroyed. The children in the real world, got as much as 175 and 175 is the real number in micro grams to research and worry about not 25 as has been researched and found to be safe. And that 175 micro-grams can be given on one day at one setting at one point in time. Oh! BTW, the two independent researchers that got in to the VSD twice, found not 2.48 times risk or even 1.59 but 11 and 27 times risk DPT vs non Thimerosal DPT. The next day the CDC moved the VSD Data off the premises of the CDC, and put the Data base in the hands of a non governmental agency with express orders no independent researchers are to ever gain access to the Data base. If they do, the non governmental agency will give up the 190 million dollars that they contracted with the agency for. A non governmental Co. doe's not have to comply with the (FOIA) Freedom of Information Act of the US. As a black man once said, when talking about civil rights, " when I have documents in my hand, it's no longer what I think. It's what I know. Conspiracy theory,No! that is many yr's of researching this and reading everything that these people did to hide the mass accidental poisoning of the American children. It is not the Accidental poisoning that was criminal, it was what they the CDC and the FDA chose to do. When in the valley of decision of whether to tell the truth and help the children, or to lie and abandon the severely Vaccine damaged,it is with great sorrow I have to report that the CDC and the FDA chose to lie to the public and abandon the suffering children.

Doreen

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 3:01 a.m.

After testifying in behalf of Safe Minds and World Mercury Alliance before the WA Board of Health on National Immunization Guidelines (WAC 246-105-040, I have arrived at this simple conclusion: Anyone who would protect the use of a known neuro-toxin like Mercury is either seriously misinformed, is effected by it, or has an invested interest in the product. Arguing if a poison is a poison is an argument that makes no sense, much like trying to reason with the Mad Hatter! Then, it's off with your head if you do not comply? Parents of babies who died on the pediatrician's table, or those who were harmed are then referred to a government run program for compensation in the case of death or harm, which is a contradiction in terms, isn't it? Over 2 billion has been paid out in damage claims. And what about the people who have no idea that this has been going on and were never warned about the risks? The illegal presence of mercury in FDA-approved medicines, especially vaccines, is being defended by apparently fraudulent studies is the key-point in a letter sent to The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS-OIG) in Washington DC on September 15. 2010. The current US Mercury Treaty negotiations that will ease the transition towards mercury reduction and elimination makes me wonder who is really paying attention to the real issues at hand. The Insurance Commissioner's official statement is that they will continue to insure the most cost effective substance considered legal, that being mercury. Since we can no longer rely on the hippocratic oath of "do no harm", we have to rely on what we know is happening. Thimerosal is a registered pesticide. There is no proof of it's safety, and absence of proof isn't proof of absence. No liability, too many vaccines in the schedule, and no warnings about the risks spells cover-up! We need transparency about the risks involved and free choice! World Mercury Alliance

Doreen

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 2:58 a.m.

Because some people are able to survive a dangerous toxic insult to the body does not make it safe in view of the people who have had fatal reactions, if anything it calls into question the safety of doing so. Jenner who invented the first vaccine abandoned his experiments after his son died from the injections. The vaccines did not work then and they do not work now. The pharmaceuticals knew they did not work but took over the human experimenting on the masses without any testing for safety. Big Pharma will continue to do this and ignore that people are dying, and because you cannot trace a vaccine back to a specific disease like cancer, they can continue to do what they are doing and ignore the evidence, lie to the public, and make big profit! end of story.

joe

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 2:40 a.m.

Now I will share how the people responsible for this meeting had stripped all of the bad information from the meeting minutes. Some that you just read. later they had found out that safe minds had obtained the original minutes from the Simpson wood meeting. When they had learned that safe minds had caught them by obtaining the minutes to the meeting,those same people who stripped the minutes decided to write a letter and put it all back. This is what the letter to the committee said "we have recently learned that safe minds had obtained the minutes to the simpson wood meeting, and there were some findings we did not tell you about" Doe's that sound crooked to you? It doe's to this dad of a very severely vaccine damaged child that has suffered due to a corrupted vaccine program that is owned and operated by the vaccine makers. Consider, the emails from the CDC or the FDA that said "this was not rocket science, this was 9th grade math" And this one from the CDC "how could the FDA approve a preservative with out knowing how much mercury it contained,what else is lurking we know nothing about" That led us to this one FDA or CDC "and it is no longer going to wash that there's no evidence of a risk" That finally got us here email by the FDA "were afraid the public will perceive us asleep at the switch for decades, for allowing this dangerous compound to remain in the Vaccines" And one,that says it all FDA or CDC. "maybe we should come clean with the public" If that kind of FOIA found incompetence wasn't bad enough, they took it out of dog vaccines in 1990 because it Thimerosal was causing neurological damage in dogs. And and our trusted health agencies allowed it to remain in the vaccines and damage our children till 2002. "Conspiracy" maybe not, maybe this is just incompetent idiots in charge of the government agencies that are charged with the protection of our kids. That are guilty of allowing the dogs, to get better care and consideration than our children. When it comes to the safety of the Vaccines.

joe

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 2:20 a.m.

In the real world, the children got several vaccines in the 90's and beyond, at one setting on one day. Not the 25 micro-grams, that reflects only 1 vaccine that they aways do the research on. And say we barely found anything, although 25 micro-grams back then was able to produce a high risk. That was before the massaging of the data had began. The researcher that found children given 62.5 micro - grams by age three months had a 2.48 times risk of receiving ADD, ADHD, Speech Delay, or Autism, by the time the researcher was done massaging the data he was able to bring it down to 1.59. Which is below legal, in a twist of fate the CDC said that the researchers earlier work, the data that had found the 2.48 times risk. Had accidentally been lost or even destroyed. The children in the real world, got as much as 175 and 175 is the real number in micro grams to research and worry about not 25 as has been researched and found to be safe. Oh! BTW, the two independent researchers that got in to the VSD twice, found not 2.48 times risk or even 1.59 but 11 and 27 times risk DPT vs non Thimerosal DPT. The next day the CDC moved the VSD Data off the premises of the CDC, and put the Data base in the hands of a non governmental agency with express orders no independent researchers are to ever gain access to the Data base. If they do the non governmental agency will give up the 190 million dollars they contracted with the agency for. A non governmental Co. doe's not have to comply with the FOIA Freedom of Information Act of the US. As a black man once said, when talking about civil rights, " when I have documents in my hand, it's no longer what I think. It's what I know. That is not! Conspiracy theory, that is many yr's of researching this and reading everything that these people did to hide the mass accidental poisoning of the American children. It is not the Accidental poisoning that was criminal, it was what they the CDC and the FDA chose to do when in the valley of decision of whether to tell the truth and help the children or to lie and abandon the severely Vaccine damaged,it is with great sorrow I have to report that the CDC and the FDA chose to lie to the public. And abandon the suffering children.

joe

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 2:10 a.m.

The Eli lilly rider that was inserted in the home land security bill, by Congressman Dick Army had assured that Eli lilly the patent holder of Thimerosal would not be held liable for any damages at all to the children that were harmed by the vaccines that had contained their product the preservative used in vaccines Thimerosal. The researchers gained access for only two days,and to their astonishment they did not find the 2.48 times risk. That was the findings of the researcher that had presented, at the meeting at Simpson wood. That was point 48 over legal (legal meaning you have exceeded the requirements for causation of vaccine damage) That is why they were saying at the meeting "we can move the numbers around any way we want, and look justified in doing so and get any results we want" One of those participants of the meeting, that appeared to be the only one with a conscience said this; Dr. Weil, pg. 207: "The number of dose related relationships are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant. The positive relationships are those that one might expect from the Faroe Islands studies. They are also related to those data we do have on experimental animal data and similar to the neurodevelopmental tox data on other substances, so that I think you can't accept that this is out of the ordinary. It isn't out of the ordinary." Also from Dr. Weil, pg. 75: I think that what you are saying is in term of chronic exposure. I think that the alternative scenario is that this repeated acute exposures, and like many repeated acute exposures, if you consider a dose of 25 micrograms on one day, then you are above threshold. At least we think you are, and then you do that over and over to a series of neurons where the toxic effect may be the same set of neurons or the same set of neurologic processes, it is conceivable that the more mercury you get, the more effect you are going to get. As you can see, the Simpson wood meeting reflects the more Thimerosal the more out comes. And the earlier you go, with the Thimerosal the more damage you will get. One really should be wondering why someone would ever recommended a pregnant woman to get a flu shot containing Thimerosal. Here is another reason, the manufacturer has said on it's MSDS sheet "pregnant women should never be exposed to Thimerosal,for it can cross the placenta and go into the baby and cause mild to severe mental retardation" It sounds like this Dr. has never read,the Simpson wood meeting.

joe

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 1:43 a.m.

Congress asked the CDC nicely, to allow independent researchers access to the Vaccine Safety Data Link. The CDC made excuse after excuse for years,then Congress demanded and then ordered the CDC to allow independent researchers in the VSD. After yrs's of request, and thousands of dollars in fees two researchers gain that access. And they found the answer, as to why President G.W. Bush tried to seal the VSD "for ever" That was the tactic used by the President after Congress had removed the earlier protection from the home land security bill. That answer was,that they were hiding in the VSD 11 and 27 times risk. Now parents and this delusional Dr. think about this, they the CDC have always said the VSD holds the proof that the vaccines are safe and don't cause Autism. Then why did the president GW Bush, try to seal their proof? the VSD for ever??????? One would have to agree it would be stupid, to seal a data base that proves your point. One would have to also agree, if one finds in the vaccine safety data base 11 and 27 times risk. That high a risk explains the neurological damage we are seeing in our children, and then one might be tempted to decide to seal the VSD to hide the mass damage that might have been done by the TOXIC Vaccines. Now that, really makes sense.

joe

Thu, Dec 16, 2010 : 1:09 a.m.

They were going to use what happened at 9 - 11 to skirt paying for the damage done by Thimerosal by putting protection in the homeland security bill. And using the fear of the threat, of another attack to keep it in.This was done on the backs of severely vaccine damaged children. How low this country has sunk, since our forefathers.

Maurine Meleck

Wed, Dec 15, 2010 : 11:18 p.m.

Again, we have here an article with biased and unsubstantiated statments as broad as the state of Texas. The majority of children diagnosed on the spectrum were developing normally and then regressing, losing abilities they had already acquired. The government continues to tell us "we don't know what causes autism, but we know it's not vaccines." That comment is as ridiculous as this doctor telling us "vaccines don't cause autism." There are dozens of studies showing that vaccines are indeed related to the epidemic rise in autism. People are tiring of hearing there is no cause and no cure and parents are getting wise and fewer are vaccinating their children and themselves because nobody has been able to prove that vaccines have nothing to do with autism that are credible studies. More babies than ever are dying in infancy, and more children are sick from life-long diseases like diabetes, autism and asthma.

Ginger

Wed, Dec 15, 2010 : 9:52 p.m.

And keep in mind, there are 10 reported deaths from pertussis this year, and more than 30 deaths associated with the pertussis vaccine this year.

Ginger

Wed, Dec 15, 2010 : 9:48 p.m.

This doc is an uninformed on vaccine safety as... well as any doc who relies on the AAP for information is. "Vaccines are safe". Dr. vaccines are not "safe". AS a matter of fact they are legally classified as "unavoidably unsafe", which means they cannot be made safe for their intended use. We know that some will be harmed or killed by vaccines. For typical products that would get them yanked from the market. But because we know that vaccines have some upside, the decision has been made to allow them on the market anyway. So no.. vaccines are not safe. Not by any medical or legal definition. They are part of a very complicated risk/benefit choice that everyone must make for themselves... because injury from vaccines will ONLY be born by those getting it. Doctors are immune from civil litigation on vaccines. If you take this docs advice and are injured by a vaccine, there are no reprocussions for him what so ever. Tomorrow an investigative series begins in San Diego that found that two thirds of those who got pertussis in the California outbreak were vaccinated. The outbreak is taking place because the bacteria has mutated and the vaccine just doesn't work well any more. Pertussis vaccines have the highest failure rate and the highest injury rate of all the childhood vaccines. Inform yourself, do your own homework, and take the advice of docs who can't be held accountable for killing their patients via vaccine with a large grain of salt.

Anne McElroy Dachel

Wed, Dec 15, 2010 : 9:03 p.m.

Dr. Weinberg fails to tell us a number of important points in this article: He never says that thimerosal is made from MERCURY, the second deadliest element on earth and a known neurotoxin. He doesn't note that thimerosal was never tested or approved by the FDA. In truth, the majority of the flu vaccine available contains MERCURY as a preservative. Every study used by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (the people who run the vaccine program) comes with ties to the vaccine makers. This agency has oversight over itself. The ludicrous claim that children who received vaccines laced with toxic mercury was LESS likely to have neurological problem is absurd. Weinberg should be aware of the vast financial ties between the drug industry and the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC. The last director of the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding, a long time denier of any link vaccines and autism, is now head of the vaccine division at Merck Pharmaceutical. In the real world, autism now affects one percent of kids, one in every 68 boys. This epidemic increase directly coincided with the dramatic increase in the vaccination schedule, exposing kids to more more toxins like live viruses, aluminum and mercury. Parents need to educate themselves before they vaccinate their children. There are experts on both sides of this controversy. Anne Dachel Media editor: Age of Autism

Anne McElroy Dachel

Wed, Dec 15, 2010 : 8:17 p.m.

Dr. Weinberg fails to tell us a number of important points in this article: He never says that thimerosal is made from MERCURY, the second deadliest element on earth and a known neurotoxin. He doesn't note that thimerosal was never tested or approved by the FDA. In truth, the majority of the flu vaccine available contains MERCURY as a preservative. Every study used by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (the people who run the vaccine program) comes with ties to the vaccine makers. This agency has oversight over itself. The ludicrous claim that children who received vaccines laced with toxic mercury was LESS likely to have neurological problem is absurd. Weinberg should be aware of the vast financial ties between the drug industry and the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC. The last director of the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding, a long time denier of any link vaccines and autism, is now head of the vaccine division at Merck Pharmaceutical. In the real world, autism now affects one percent of kids, one in every 68 boys. This epidemic increase directly coincided with the dramatic increase in the vaccination schedule, exposing kids to more more toxins like live viruses, aluminum and mercury. Parents need to educate themselves before they vaccinate their children. There are experts on both sides of this controversy. Anne Dachel Media editor: Age of Autism

Susan Cerniglia

Wed, Dec 15, 2010 : 4:46 p.m.

No vaccine is 100% effective, so those who have been vaccinated may still get sick with persussis. Their illness will likely be less serious. In Washtenaw County, none of the hospitalizations for pertussis have been among vaccinated individuals. For more on pertussis in Washtenaw County, please see: http://www.ewashtenaw.org/government/departments/public_health/news/2010-news-stories/pertussis-whooping-cough-cases-at-all-time-high Although the vaccine is not perfect, it is the best that we have to prevent this very contagious disease from spreading and from causing severe illness and complications in all age groups but especially in infants under 1 year who have the highest risk of death. - Susan Cerniglia, Washtenaw County Public Health

AnneS

Wed, Dec 15, 2010 : 3:53 p.m.

So are you saying this child wasn't vaccinated and that's why he caught pertussis? Because what I'm hearing from various sources is that many of the children catching pertussis have been vaccinated. In fact, kids today get 4,5, sometimes 6 pertussis shots/boosters. Sounds to me like the pertussis shot is ineffective. So before you say 'everybody get vaccinated for pertussis', how about we get an effective shot (and safe shot) that doesn't need so many boosters?