Comcast cable upgrade causes problems for Ann Arbor TiVo users
Comcast is disputing assertions voiced by several Ann Arbor residents that today’s cable TV network upgrades would cause TiVo digital video recorders to lose some functionality.
But TiVo offers a different perspective. The company's site indicates that digital network upgrades prevent dual-tuner TiVo users from simultaneously recording shows on two digital channels.
Comcast, contacted by AnnArbor.com today after several residents expressed concern, said the digital upgrades wouldn’t affect TiVo units. That directly contradicts reports by several residents, who said their TiVo units would not work correctly with newly required Comcast digital equipment.
“TiVo DVRs are fully compatible with Comcast digital equipment and will allow you to access all of your channels,” wrote Mary Beth Halprin, vice president of public relations and community affairs, in an e-mail.
"Your TiVo DVR can record one digital channel and one analog channel or two analog channels at the same time. That does not change," TiVo's site says. "However, since your cable provider is broadcasting more of your channels in digital format, you may see more recording conflicts after you install your cable box, and some of your scheduled Season Pass recordings may be affected."
Several Ann Arbor residents confirmed that their dual-tuner TiVo units do not work correctly when connected to Comcast digital equipment. Comcast today is upgrading a portion of its analog cable transmission to digital technology. The upgrade means that cable users whose TVs don’t have digital capability need to install free Comcast equipment to ensure uninterrupted service on all channels.
Halprin said in an interview that she was previously “not aware” of incompatibility between the Comcast equipment and TiVo technology.
“I can’t speak to a specific customer’s issue. And there are a couple of different versions of TiVo out there. So there could be some issues with the way that it’s installed,” Halprin said. “But without knowing what’s happening at the customer’s television it’s difficult to give you a specific answer.”
Jane Raymond, an Ann Arbor resident and Comcast customer, said she spent time discussing the issue with TiVo and Comcast representatives. Her dual-tuner TiVo, she said, can no longer record two shows at once.
“There’s no way you can do it,” she said. “They must be getting hundreds of these phone calls, but yet they acted very surprised. They were not very helpful.”
TiVo public relations officials were not immediately available for comment.
Raymond suggested that the upgrade was a ploy by Comcast to entice cable customers to buy a Comcast DVR.
Asked for her response, Halprin said: “The project is connected to providing new services through our video service, our on-demand programming and our Internet service. The equipment that a customer chooses to have depends on their lifestyle.”
Halprin said Comcast was responding to customer concerns on a case-by-case basis. She provided this advice in an e-mail:
“TiVo Series3 DVRs (including TiVo HD and HD XL) will work without a digital cable box because they use CableCARDs to receive digital channels. Digital adapters are not needed. TiVo Series2 and Series1 DVRs require a Comcast digital cable box or a digital adapter to receive digital channels. If customers have questions about setting up their TiVo DVR with a digital cable box, they should check their TiVo owner’s manual. Depending on the TiVo equipment, there are multiple ways to connect TiVo to the Comcast service. For more information, customers can visit www.tivo.com/alldigital.”
Contact AnnArbor.com's Nathan Bomey at nathanbomey@annarbor.com or (734) 623-2587. You can also follow him on Twitter.
Comments
rkb0929
Mon, Nov 23, 2009 : 9:58 a.m.
I'm hating Comcast right now.....have a 2 tuner TiVo which is basically useless now. I can only watch what I'm recording, or while something is recording I can watch something I've already recorded, but I can't record 2 shows at once any longer, per the comcast technician who came out. I have too much invested in TiVo to just let it go but we've tried everything everyone has told us to try.
Nathan Bomey
Wed, Nov 11, 2009 : 9:21 a.m.
Insightman, the HD version of TiVo works properly with the new Comcast equipment. However, the regular dual-tuner TiVo loses some functionality. It cannot record two digital channels at once.
Insightman
Wed, Nov 11, 2009 : 8:18 a.m.
We have no problem recording two shows at once on our dual-tuner TiVo HD with the Comcast-installed dual cable card. Unfortunately, the cable-card solution doesn't provide access to On Demand programming. TiVo's access to online movie rentals and internet content offers some compensation for this problem.
Phil Lozen
Wed, Oct 14, 2009 : 8:41 a.m.
Hey all, Both Comcast and Tivo are right, actually. Some stations are still being broadcast in analog (for instance NBC, ABC, and some other cable stations) while some have been switched to all digital (for me in Milan I lost Disney, Travel and a couple others). So dual-tuner Tivos will work when attempting to record channels still in analog IF you use a splitter before the DTA you got from Comcast. Once the signal goes into the DTA, it only outputs a digital signal and the Tivos that don't use CableCard have only one digital tuner. To fix this, put a splitter in BEFORE the DTA and run one line to the DTA, and one line into the other open post on your Tivo. That should allow you to record two channels at once, given the channel you're trying to record on the analog signal is still there. Note that this fix will only work as long as the analog channels exist. As more channels are made all digital, this fix will become obsolete.
Broadway
Wed, Oct 14, 2009 : 5:27 a.m.
Is anyone else having trouble with Comcast loading? My previously fairly quick connection now takes time... I know it's not hours, but three minutes getting to email or Facebook. Hey! Broadway
sellers
Tue, Oct 13, 2009 : 7:41 p.m.
Hrmm, I have to start petitioning Verizon to setup shop now in Saline for more than just DSL.
sellers
Tue, Oct 13, 2009 : 2:35 p.m.
This is why municipalities should not have exclusive agreements. They claim it is for public access, but really, if you want public access, let the community decide with a tax or how about join other communities to pay for a metro public access channel that is shared. I'm not sure if AA has an exclusive agreement with Comcast, but I know Saline does and it's why Verizon, WoW, and others are not interested in providing competition. At least there is satellite and the Internet TV is starting to gain some ground. Wasn't there some legislation passed that made such agreements illegal?