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Posted on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 5:59 a.m.

Arbor Hills Crossing: Opening date set for retail center under construction on Washtenaw

By Lizzy Alfs

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The developers behind Arbor Hills Crossing on Washtenaw Avenue are aiming for an August opening date.

Joseph Tobianski | AnnArbor.com

Since the Arbor Hills Crossing project broke ground in June, construction on the four-building, 100,000-square-foot development on the south side of Washtenaw Avenue has been moving quickly.

Several buildings were demolished on the 7.45-acre site at 3000 Washtenaw Ave. and steel framing is now up, giving passerbys a sense of the overall size of the project.

Max Reiswerg of Illinois-based North Shore Properties Group, the company handling the leasing at Arbor Hills, said the project is on schedule for an August 2013 opening. He said the buildings should be completed and turned over to tenants for their build-outs by April.

“We are right on schedule,” Reiswerg said. “We are into our winter conditions right now, which we certainly have planned for. We are pretty firm with an Aug. 22 (opening) date. The entire center should be open then.”

Reiswerg said the buildings are almost fully leased, including several restaurants, retail stores and about 10,000 square feet of second-floor office space.

The only tenant that has been announced so far is Hot Mama, an upscale nationally recognized boutique. Reiswerg said he expects to release a full list of tenants in mid-to-late January.

Real estate sources say stores like Lululemon Athletica and Anthropologie — which is owned by Urban Outfitters Inc. — have been looking for space in the Ann Arbor market. Those companies have not announced plans to open at Arbor Hills Crossing, but the large footprint provides opportunity in an otherwise tight retail market.

“We are really well leased,” Reiswerg said. “The restaurants will be really, really cool…we do not have a lot of space left in the center.”

The Arbor Hills property was targeted for development in 2006 as the Shops at Arlington. It was sold following foreclosure to RSW Washtenaw LLC, an entity controlled by Tom Stegeman of Campus Realty. O’Neal Construction of Ann Arbor is working on the project. The company's website shows some renderings of Arbor Hills.

Stegeman said in 2011 that Arbor Hills will not have a large anchor, such as the Whole Foods Market across the street. He said he hopes to attract national chains, regional players and local businesses.

Lizzy Alfs is a business reporter for AnnArbor.com. Reach her at 734-623-2584 or email her at lizzyalfs@annarbor.com. Follow her on Twitter at http://twitter.com/lizzyalfs.

Comments

15crown00

Wed, Jan 9, 2013 : 3:59 p.m.

very simple.DO NOT CARE!!!!

Dr. Libert

Wed, Apr 10, 2013 : 4:24 p.m.

I don't care that you don't care.

bulldog

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 9 p.m.

I, too, hate the thought of the added traffic congestion. Would love to see a Charming Charlie Accessories store. Visited that store in Florida - great selection, reasonable prices. Closest one in Michigan is Fairlane and next closest is Toledo.

judy

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 9:50 p.m.

Please consider a way to put a pedestrian overpass between the north shopping center and south shopping center over Washtenaw. When people try to shop in that area, I don't want them to add to the traffic congestion by trying to move their car from one shopping center to another.

Ann English

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 2:11 a.m.

By "shopping center," do you mean where Lady Jane and Verizon are nearest each other, and where Qdoba is? I can see how a pedestrian overpass would help motorists use that hill part of Washtenaw up to Pittsfield Street less, especially in the winter; when you start moving your vehicle from a dead stop, in the winter you can lose some traction while waiting, so you take longer to get going again, whether or not you intend to visit those businesses on the south side of Washtenaw, such as Qdoba. And if people could walk easily above Washtenaw to get to these other retail stores, then motorists would not have to slow down on the hill while other drivers ahead of them slow down to enter the driveways to the stores.

superhappyfunbrett

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 9:03 p.m.

It all depends upon what winds up in a strip mall. Ann Arbor caters to: young broke students and older wealthy professionals. There is also a growing young professional demographic. Development should reflect who's heading where, especially as to retail. That spot WOULD benefit from boutique stores etc. A lot of people in area with money to blow leave town to spend it. Ann Arbor doesn't need more Big Lots or Dollar Trees. They need more over-priced ridiculousness, besides downtown shops. (Maybe that's why the parking lot is so small? lol) The sad part is that we're all obsessed with shiny and new, so you could put new stores in old strip malls, and it won't be as exciting. So when something is "old", we abandon it. Let it suffer then rot. THEN maybe tear it down. Wish, if we ARE gonna build new things, we could tear down old stuff elsewhere in town first. Revert said space into other things we could use. (Or you know, plant a tree or something.) But that's not always realistic option. Oh well! I'm just hoping there ISN'T another coffee shop chain in there... YIKES!

JRW

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 5:45 a.m.

More strip malls on an already overly congested stretch of Washtenaw. It's already impossible to turn into and out of Arborland, Whole Foods, and the rest of these strip malls, and there is already far too much congestion and retail in that corridor. The only people who benefit from these overkill developments are the fat cat developers. They win even with empty stores that sit empty for years. I predict this unnecessary strip mall will have a lot of empty stores and create more traffic jams. STOP this madness!

psa97531

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 2:17 a.m.

Anthropologie-Visit their website. Is that really a fit? Maybe part of what they have on their site but a $2100 Bozeman Furnace and $10,000 paddle boards?

superhappyfunbrett

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 10:19 p.m.

I'm excited that the old blight is gone. I'm excited for new business. I'm excited for continued building in area. I'm worried less about traffic (it's going to be similar annoyance level - but light will be nice!); I'm more concerned with potential lack of parking in shopping center. It looks awfully tight in that real estate. We shall see. I'm also sad to see something else with "Arbor" in the name. I know where I live; but it gets confusing to explain to out of towners, and it's just not very creative to continue using at this point. ("Arbor" and "Huron" need a break, in my humble opinion.) But that's all nitpicking. I'm mostly eager to see things in a finished state. We're lucky to have things popping up in times like this. (Maybe we can revert some of the old empty retail spots back into a natural state? I can dream... Ha.)

JRW

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 5:46 a.m.

Those old empty retail spots are empty for a reason. Too much retail.

Ann English

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 12:45 a.m.

What about the area along Michigan Avenue where Sesi was? Did any business take and use the building? The area just west of Prospect WAS put back into a natural state; that area on the south side of Michigan Avenue, has no buildings on it today; the Michigan Employment Security Commission, the flea market and all the other commercial businesses using a strip mall there in the 1990s have disappeared.

teeters

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 9:47 p.m.

I wish the city council you require businesses who want to move into AA to fill up all the empty retail spaces before building new ones (i.e. the huge Boarders building that just took down their sign today). The appeal of AA is that it is a "small" downtown centered city. This project is another step toward urban sprawl and a just another city filled with strip malls and Qudobas.

superhappyfunbrett

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 10:25 p.m.

I hear you. But sooner than later, those spots such as old Borders will be filled. Ann Arbor is going to sprawl a bit; there's nothing we can do. It may not sound ideal, but it's better than people fleeing in droves, like some unfortunate Michigan towns/cities. Like I said in my post below, I wish some of the ancient shopping areas would be reverted back to natural land if possible. But there's more money in shopping, so... Doubt that will happen. But concerning THIS area... Anything is better than what WAS sitting there for years.

Meral

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 6:32 p.m.

The Whole Foods have a valet parking on weekends even then it is very hard to park, I wonder how many parking spots designated for that area.

Ann English

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 12:38 a.m.

I recall that once an article was written about how the parking spots in the Whole Foods/Barnes & Noble/Walgreens complex was deliberately limited, in order to minimize the carbon footprint. I was glad when the Whole Foods location on the western end of Eisenhower opened; it isn't hard to find a parking place there.

Rob MI

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 6:25 p.m.

Just when you thought Washtenaw Ave. couldn't get any worse...and with the buildings taking shape, it appears that parking will be just as awful here as it is at the Whole Foods/Barnes and Noble complex. I rarely go to the latter and, should this "parking vision" materialize, don't see myself frequenting the former either.

TommyJ

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 6:12 p.m.

What that stretch needs, from Arborland to the Stadium split, is a boulevard and a line of Michigan left turn lanes similar to Eisenhower by the mall.

Tano

Sun, Jan 6, 2013 : 4:42 p.m.

Ann, Do you mean the Shell at Eisenhower and State St?

Ann English

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 1:55 a.m.

a2citizen- During the years that I frequented the Shell station at Ann Arbor-Saline Road and Eisenhower, I found it was often impossible to turn RIGHT onto Eisenhower from the Shell station, what with all the vehicles lined up on it, waiting for green lights at Ann Arbor-Saline. Not swift, unyielding traffic keeping me from turning right, but STATIONARY traffic! I learned to turn right from Shell onto Ann Arbor-Saline, turn left onto a residential street, turn around, and take Ann Arbor-Saline back towards Eisenhower.

a2citizen

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 7:20 p.m.

True Ann. But I always get a kick out of the dumb % $ ^ * *'s that want to turn left onto Ike coming out of the Shell station.

Ann English

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 12:33 a.m.

Not just Briarwood Mall, but the Colonnade and Cranbrook Village strip mall, too. Those boulevards/parkways ARE built to keep traffic flowing, unimpeded by motorists who want to turn left into stores and other businesses.

David Paris

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 5:46 p.m.

We don't really need any more out-of-town retail, a Research Park may have been more appropriate.

johnnya2

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 9:18 p.m.

When you are prepared to buy the property you can always turn it into a research park.

David

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 4:55 p.m.

The word is passersby, not passerbys.

Moonmaiden

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 9:47 p.m.

Wow. Thanks, David!

Christine Laing

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 4:28 p.m.

It's an awful location. There were some fairly nice things (coffee shop, ice cream) in there before but when you're driving through that mess the only thing you want to do is get out of there. Turning left on your way out is just dangerous. I can't even figure out how you would get turned around and go back west if you had to. Go down to Packard and come back up across Stadium? I love several of the stores named, but they haven't actually agreed to go in there. They are destination stores, the sort of places you go for a special trip, and I am not seeing myself making a special trip to that particular stretch of Washtenaw.

Ann English

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 12:27 a.m.

If you wanted to go west from Arbor Hills to shop at the Lamp Post Plaza, you could go down Packard to Colony, turn onto Manchester after a very short drive on Colony, and take Manchester to Medford to St. Francis, which will take you to Stadium if you turn right onto it. Right turn onto Stadium, right turn into Lamp Post Plaza. You could take Manchester its whole length, but then you would have to turn left onto Stadium at the light, and turn left into the Lamp Post Plaza. Suppose you miss Colony. Take a right onto Independence from Packard. Independence will take you to Manchester Street.

arborani

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 11:11 p.m.

If they have the common sense to provide a "back door" i.e., an exit drive onto Platt, it shouldn't be that hard just to approach the new traffic light and make a left turn.

Basic Bob

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 4:03 p.m.

I still think the name "Arbor Hills" is a poor choice because it's the name of a local landfill. Must be the out of town banker picked this name.

shine16

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 4:34 p.m.

"Ann Arbor Hills" and "Arbor Hills" are common names for several things on the northeast and east sides of Ann Arbor. (pre-school, subdivision) Also, the exclusive, residential area north of Washtenaw Ave. near campus is also referred to as "Ann Arbor Hills".

JRW

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 5:47 a.m.

Actually naming it after a landfill is a good idea! hahaha

Veracity

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 3:15 p.m.

Not much new since Angela Smith's article on October 13th which announced the same tenant along with hopes for more lessee signage soon. http://www.annarbor.com/business-review/hot-mama-opens-first-ann-arbor-location/ Most listed possible tenants are small niche boutiques which often do not survive. Success may be particularly difficult since the location is not ideal for retail sales, unlike Briarwood, downtown and even Arborland. Arbor Hills Crossing is an important component of "Re-Imaging Washtenaw" and its spawn, the Washtenaw Improvement Corridor Authority. One provision of the "Re-Imaging Washtenaw" plan is to improve traffic flow. Unfortunately, the new traffic light planned for Platt and Washtenaw, though certainly required, will further interrupt movement of vehicles along the thoroughfare. In addition, the entrance to the shopping center that will be several hundred yards further east of the Platt-Washtenaw Avenue light with slow traffic even more. With the City intending to return TIF payments to the owner of Arbor Hills Crossing, as reimbursement for Brownfield remediation and site development, no financial benefits will be received by our local government. Because of slow leasing and weak retail interest, this project is risking failure. If bankruptcy happens the only benefactor will be the developer who gets his fee "up front", off the top of financing, which is not dependent on business success. But that is the case with all new construction in Ann Arbor.

Halter

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 12:55 a.m.

The homes "behind" it are not really homes -- they are rehabilitation center apartments that do not have the clientele that would patronize any of the higher end retail stores or restaurants unless there was a subway or a fastfood restaurant there.

Veracity

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 2:59 p.m.

Ann - The plans for Arbor Hills Crossing do include an entrance on Platt Road across from the entrance to the Meri Lou Murray Recreation Center. I did not mention this fact because I was discussing the effect of an entrance off Washtenaw Boulevard on traffic flow. There are homes proximate to Arbor Hills Crossing and behind it. So far the prospective tenants are not likely to attract much patronage from either those who can walk there and others who would need to drive there.

JRW

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 5:50 a.m.

You speak the truth, Veracity.... "Because of slow leasing and weak retail interest, this project is risking failure. If bankruptcy happens the only benefactor will be the developer who gets his fee "up front", off the top of financing, which is not dependent on business success. But that is the case with all new construction in Ann Arbor." The developers build these monstrosities, and walk away with fat wallets if they fail. This overkill strip mall has little chance of success unless it fills up with Dollar Stores.

Ann English

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 12:16 a.m.

I had no idea that no driveway will be built leading to or from Platt Road itself. I think Meijer is smart to locate where it's always possible to get in and out via TWO roads. You bring to mind those businesses south of the Rite Aid store at Packard and Platt; they, along with Rite Aid itself, are accessible from both Rosedale and Platt. Very smart to locate so close to houses, houses on BOTH streets. Customers can walk to them. For Arbor Hills, the nearest residents live on the opposite side of Washtenaw Avenue.

Jane

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 3:11 p.m.

Just looked at Hot Mamas site, I for one would not spend that much money on clothes. I hope a few Not so high end shops go in there.

Susie Q

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 3:10 p.m.

Whenever I drive past this area, I ask myself why the City of A2 allowed all that development with the traffic situation that has long existed on Washtenaw. I really like Hiller's, Paesano's and other businesses in the area, but I avoid it like the plague. I went to Michael's at the old Arborland shopping center once during the holidays and it was enough. It took about 45 minutes to go from the intersection of Huron Pkway & Washtenaw, then 5-7 minutes inside Michael's and back to the same intersection. What a waste of time.

Halter

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 12:52 a.m.

Because, Susie -- once upon a time, the City of A2, surely under the "advise of consultants" decided to take what WERE one-way roads and turn them into two-way disaster areas...then not control the zoning at all in that area, nor do any upgrades to the road, walkways, lights, or access roads. Its all coming to a head now, thanks to mistakes that were made decades ago "under advisement from consultants". What goes around comes around. A web search will bring up old maps with the one-way road traffic indicated (Washtenaw into town, stadium/packard out of town)

Ann English

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 12:05 a.m.

When I shop at Hiller's, I approach it from the opposite direction and drive through Pittsfield Village, taking the light at Pittsfield and Washtenaw to get into the left-turn lane. If I do approach Arborland from the north, I use southbound US-23. I have noticed how people who leave Arborland, intending to turn left onto eastbound Washtenaw, go behind all the westernmost stores, and get into two left-turn lanes to exit Arborland. Those who approach that exiting driveway from the opposite end of those westernmost stores (so they don't drive behind any of them, such as Old Navy) have to wait to get into one of the lines. Two left turns needed for them instead of just one for those who drive past the backs of those stores.

johnnya2

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 9:15 p.m.

Again, it sounds like the old saying "nobody goes there anymore, it is too crowded". If the area were not so crowded guess what? All these businesses would die.

leaguebus

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:53 p.m.

Maybe they could time the lights from the Stadium split to Carpenter to deal with more traffic. If this is a state trunk line, then we know that will not happen because they won't do it on Huron in downtown AA.

Ann English

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 1:42 a.m.

Halter, I use Yost a lot for reaching US-23 yet avoiding the Washtenaw-Carpenter intersection. US-23 is a more frequent destination for me than Arborland is. Geddes Road can get one to Huron Parkway from the central campus while avoiding Washtenaw.

Halter

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 12:48 a.m.

Actually, Ann, there ARE similar shortcuts through the residential neighborhood, if you are familiar with the neighborhood. I haven't taken Washtenaw in ages -- cutting down Platt to Huron to the side streets through the residential neighborhood of Darlington that completely avoids Washtenaw and cuts around all the traffic without a single stoplight - putting you back on Washtenaw at Yost and onto 23 -- saving 8 - 10 minutes of stop and sit traffic on Washtenaw.

Ann English

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 11:49 p.m.

Last Friday, I thought I made very good time driving on Packard from where it starts at Main and went to three places along it, stopping just before the US-23 bridge. No long red lights along that stretch. I avoid much of Stadium Boulevard, using residential streets to get past stores and traffic signals, such as Manchester, Medford, Colony and Burwood, but I know how the NORTH side of Stadium east of Packard and SOUTH side of Washtenaw between Manchester and Platt don't have residential streets you can cut through like the four I name above. Brockman will take you to Washtenaw if you don't get off it at Stadium, which will take you to Washtenaw anyway.

say it plain

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 9 p.m.

I thought that A2 must be timing lights to maximize frustration and speeding when there's a stretch without one. Because, it seems clearly the case.

Arieswoman

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 4:19 p.m.

What? A2 time lights? Bet those engineers have never heard of timing lights! I can go up Telegraph and if I keep to the speed limit never have to stop for a red light! Can't do that on Eisenhower or Washtenaw!!

Homeland Conspiracy

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:34 p.m.

Just want is needed there...MORE traffic

Greg

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:21 p.m.

Traffic in that stretch is already quite bad. What plans does the city have to deal with even more congestion??? Wait until people die to decide there is a problem?

Halter

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 12:44 a.m.

Kinda like the way it used to be, Susie...before someone decided it should be two-way a couple decades ago...

Susie Q

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 3:13 p.m.

The road needs to be re-built with more lanes and perhaps made into a boulevard, with "turn-arounds" like Jackson Rd between Wagner and Baker. Or make it one-way and Packard one-way the other direction.

Brad

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:51 p.m.

Being that the heavy traffic will continue, are they going to wait until they install that light to address the crazily-dangerous pedestrian crossing there? That one designed at the school of wishful thinking?

Buck Wild

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:50 p.m.

Fewer people.

Homeland Conspiracy

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:37 p.m.

Less people

Kyle Mattson

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:30 p.m.

Hi Greg- There's no doubt that heavy traffic is an issue along Washtneaw and that it will continue when this center opens. There is a light being added to the Platt and W-Ave intersection, but no other plans at this time. Are there any solutions you have in mind?

leezee

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:15 p.m.

It would be nice if they would install the traffic light now instead if waiting for these stores go open.

Nicholas Urfe

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:11 p.m.

I don't patronize any of the businesses in that area due to the traffic. Hillers and Whole foods are the only exceptions.

Halter

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 12:42 a.m.

Whole Foods has a second branch on Eisenhower with plenty of parking and no near-death traffic patterns...

jns131

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 11:55 p.m.

Hillers has better parking. Whole Foods if you want parking? Better go early. This place was not set up to handle this much traffic.

johnnya2

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 9:16 p.m.

What a ridiculous statement. So the traffic is different for Hiller's and Whole Foods than it is for any of the other businesses? Sounds to me like you wouldn't go to those businesses anyway.

SonnyDog09

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 3:05 p.m.

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." -- Yogi Berra

Salbolal

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:09 p.m.

Can't imagine turning in there from coming from the west, and encountering people coming east and turning into Whole Foods. Should be fun.

Paula Gardner

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 1:57 p.m.

Back when this was first proposed, the original developers were saying that many mall retailers would be moving here (like Talbots), that it would be attracting new-to-the-market restaurants, including Asian (PF Chang's or Pei Wei, I believe) and that newer retailers would be there, too (Loft). Loft has set up in Briarwood, but with all of the changes coming to that mall in 2013, it'll be interesting to see if the new stores at Briarwood are finding room there b/c some stores are moving to Arbor Hills Crossing. (Here's a story from today on Michael Kors etc opening at Briarwood in 2013: http://www.annarbor.com/business-review/michael-kors-and-4-other-luxury-brand-stores-to-join-briarwood-mall-in-2013/)

Lewanster

Tue, Jan 1, 2013 : 3:35 a.m.

We already know all this. Why repeat ?

Craig Lounsbury

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 1:37 p.m.

If the structure is mostly leased why do we only know one tenant? If I was moving in there wouldn't it be useful to have that public knowledge as early as possible? And the "several restaurants" seems a little scary.

Halter

Wed, Jan 2, 2013 : 12:39 a.m.

The rationale not to release the info is, in a highly competitive retail market, with build-outs not available until April and a grand opening in late August, you DONT announce you are opening and allow direct competitors to open elsewhere in leased space in Ann Arbor before you do. Example: Restaurant X which directly competes with Restaurant Y and neither one has an Ann Arbor Branch. Restaurant X rents space at Arbor Hills Crossing and announces it is opening in August. Restaurant Y hears this, rents the vacant restaurant space down the road, and opens BEFORE Restaurant X pulling away customers.

Lizzy Alfs

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:24 p.m.

Sure, I see what you're saying.

Craig Lounsbury

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 2:18 p.m.

I believe your trying Lizzy. I'm NOT bagging on you as a reporter. I just wonder what is the point of keeping a signed lease a secret? Or is it possible there aren't as many signed leases as suggested by Max Reiswerg?

Lizzy Alfs

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 1:45 p.m.

We only know one tenant because the leasing brokers and developers have kept the negotiations very private. The permits also aren't revealing any details on specific tenants, and tenants have not confirmed any leases. Trust me, I'm trying! It shouldn't be long before we know.

Bryan Lareau

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 1:16 p.m.

Having driven by the property numerous times on my way to work, I question if they're going to have enough parking for both office and retail.

Andy Piper

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 11:24 a.m.

Sounds like a good tenant list is coming to Arbor Hills Crossings. I am excited to have some of the higher end specialty retailers coming to town. I am sure this center will do well.

Arieswoman

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 11:21 a.m.

I may have missed it but is there going to be a traffic light at Platt Road? The traffic is so bad at that corner! Takes forever to get through that light.

Ann English

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 11:29 p.m.

If a standard traffic light is put in, then the No Left Turn signs at both Glenwood and Platt could be removed; traffic could go straight across Washtenaw from Glenwood to Platt, or from Platt to Glenwood, as I once waited and waited to do once; an angry pedestrian thought I wanted to turn left onto Washtenaw, but going straight across is the hardest thing to do between lights, whether it's from one side street to another, or from one driveway to another.

arborani

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 11:02 p.m.

Does that mean the present "no left turn" from Platt onto Washtenaw will give way to a standard traffic light?

Lizzy Alfs

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 1:43 p.m.

Yes, you're right. There will be a traffic light.

foobar417

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 : 11:40 a.m.

There will still be a light at Washtenaw and Huron. They are adding a light at Washtenaw and Platt.